2020 Election Commentary

[Mistwell]

Not suckers, just willing to fight for something until its over and possibly even after. 

A mindset a RINO can never understand.

No fighting is not what makes you a sucker. It's you believing that they expected their case to be unanimously thrown out. That is what makes you a sucker. It's believing these YouTube videos as your "evidence" from random dudes making vids for clicks. That is what makes you a sucker.

You can fight. Just stop being such a fool as you fight. Be wiser.

[HappyDaze]

It's believing these YouTube videos as your "evidence" from random dudes making vids for clicks. That is what makes you a sucker.

I've been saying this for weeks. Craptastic sources are going to give you crap information. Commentary videos on primary sources are not what you should be linking to; link instead to the primary sources. That way the information is presented raw rather than hyped and bent into idiotic propaganda.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

The "game" of political football can, and sometimes does, change quickly. That doesn't have anything to do with me.

Beyond that fact, yeah, I don't give up. I won't shut up, or go away. I don't want fucking Marxists to take over America. I don't want our election integrity to be corrupted with fraud. I want righteousness and truth and patriotism to prevail, and I want to see the guilty fucking hang. The Big Tech companies have engaged in fraud, tyranny, and censorship. The MSM is a circle-jerk of corrupt, Marxist-globalists, who are engaged in fraud, deception, and propaganda. The Democrat Party, likewise, are a bunch of jello-minded, Marxist-Globalist slugs. But some morons in this country seem to be derp-derp fucking happy with all that, and want to patronizingly and condescendingly berate the rest of America to sit down, shut up, and pay no attention to the shit-train BS, there's no fraud going on here, move on!

When I can see with my own eyes, and common sense, that from election night to now, there's been a huge cluster-fuck of BS corruption pulled by the Democrats.

Oh, that's right. We are supposed to believe any goddamned thing the MSM or the Democrat Party says? After four years of whining, corruption, lying and fraud from all of these cock-sucking bastards? Impeachment, Ukraine, "Russia! Russia! Russia!", the naked corruption of the FBI and CIA, and on and fucking on. Really?

I don't fucking think so!

The fight must go on, no matter what. The traitors, the Marxists, the fucking RINOS, all of the scum needs to have a reckoning. Make lists indeed! They all need to be on a list for damned sure!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[TrekkieKT]

Turner would be proud of some of the antics in this thread.

[EOTB]

Be wiser.

We are mistwell.  We're taking a page from the effective enemy.  We've learned.

[Mistwell]

Greetings!

The "game" of political football can, and sometimes does, change quickly. That doesn't have anything to do with me.

Beyond that fact, yeah, I don't give up. I won't shut up, or go away. I don't want fucking Marxists to take over America. I don't want our election integrity to be corrupted with fraud. I want righteousness and truth and patriotism to prevail, and I want to see the guilty fucking hang. The Big Tech companies have engaged in fraud, tyranny, and censorship. The MSM is a circle-jerk of corrupt, Marxist-globalists, who are engaged in fraud, deception, and propaganda. The Democrat Party, likewise, are a bunch of jello-minded, Marxist-Globalist slugs. But some morons in this country seem to be derp-derp fucking happy with all that, and want to patronizingly and condescendingly berate the rest of America to sit down, shut up, and pay no attention to the shit-train BS, there's no fraud going on here, move on!

When I can see with my own eyes, and common sense, that from election night to now, there's been a huge cluster-fuck of BS corruption pulled by the Democrats.

Oh, that's right. We are supposed to believe any goddamned thing the MSM or the Democrat Party says? After four years of whining, corruption, lying and fraud from all of these cock-sucking bastards? Impeachment, Ukraine, "Russia! Russia! Russia!", the naked corruption of the FBI and CIA, and on and fucking on. Really?

I don't fucking think so!

The fight must go on, no matter what. The traitors, the Marxists, the fucking RINOS, all of the scum needs to have a reckoning. Make lists indeed! They all need to be on a list for damned sure!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

When you make an embarrassing fuck up once, we can chalk it up to "he's just passionate about the fight, but he'll be more careful next time."

When you do THE SAME EXACT FUCK UP MERE DAYS LATER, then no it's not about just your passion for the fight. It's about you being reckless, and never considering the even vague possibility that what you're seeing should be questioned if it agreed with your side of the fight.

At this point you know not everyone who agrees with your side of the fight will be accurate. How about you pause, for at least a moment, before jumping on any fucking rando video on YouTube which proclaims victory?

Also, if you're going to support the party of personal responsibility, then take some fucking personal responsibility when you fuck up mang. It's the least you'd hold your political opponents to.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

I didn't "fuck up" a damn thing at all, Mistwell, not today, nor several days ago. I posted various videos for news of current events, discussion, and entertainment.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Ghostmaker]

Greetings!

I didn't "fuck up" a damn thing at all, Mistwell, not today, nor several days ago. I posted various videos for news of current events, discussion, and entertainment.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

It's nice to see you pushing back against the narrative, SHARK.

Sadly, I don't think there's enough momentum to kick over the traces and demand new elections, even though the statistics and circumstantial evidence are so appalling there are probably third world countries snickering at us. We will probably get lucky with Georgia's senate runoffs which will stymie Biden, especially since the Dems managed to lose a shitload of House seats. Pelosi's hanging on by her fingernails there.

If the retard patrol in the House, aka 'The Squad' manages to irritate enough people, the midterms will hit Sleepy Joe and Kamala-Ho in the face like a brick.

But then I've been wrong before. I didn't think Trump could win in 2016, either.

EDIT: For the naysayers, consider this: the Republicans won all 27 'toss up' seats in the House. Flipped thirteen from Dem to GOP. Including House seats in New York and California.

But somehow Biden wins. Sure.

[Trond]

The Big Tech companies have engaged in fraud, tyranny, and censorship. The MSM is a circle-jerk of corrupt, Marxist-globalists, who are engaged in fraud, deception, and propaganda.

I can hardly believe just how far the media were willing to go in their support of the left. I seriously think they have blood on their hands, particularly the way they handled the George Floyd riots. First, they make sure that not all the pertinent info about his death is seen. Then they keep fanning the flames with articles like "these other black people also said they could not breathe while interacting with police" no matter the context or consequences (while ignoring white people who died much the same way). And they wonder why people don't trust them anymore.

[Ghostmaker]

The Big Tech companies have engaged in fraud, tyranny, and censorship. The MSM is a circle-jerk of corrupt, Marxist-globalists, who are engaged in fraud, deception, and propaganda.

I can hardly believe just how far the media were willing to go in their support of the left. I seriously think they have blood on their hands, particularly the way they handled the George Floyd riots. First, they make sure that not all the pertinent info about his death is seen. Then they keep fanning the flames with articles like "these other black people also said they could not breathe while interacting with police" no matter the context or consequences (while ignoring white people who died much the same way). And they wonder why people don't trust them anymore.

So-called 'scholars' like to downplay the effects of 'yellow journalism' in the lead up to the Spanish American War, but you know, it sure as hell didn't help to have Hearst saying 'you provide the pictures, and I'll provide the war'. I think that was the media's first taste of becoming not just a 'reporter' of news, but a shaper of it.

And it didn't have to be just 'shaping' a narrative. The New York Times really hates to be reminded that they still retain the Pulitzer that Walter Duranty won -- a Pulitzer which was given for stories which covered up the Holodomor. If someone with a scrap of integrity ever takes over the Times, they should return that Pulitzer and ask for Duranty to be stricken from the rolls.

So yeah, this has been a long time coming, and while the blatant nature of it is kind of surprising, overall it's not much of a surprise at all.

[Trond]

The Big Tech companies have engaged in fraud, tyranny, and censorship. The MSM is a circle-jerk of corrupt, Marxist-globalists, who are engaged in fraud, deception, and propaganda.

I can hardly believe just how far the media were willing to go in their support of the left. I seriously think they have blood on their hands, particularly the way they handled the George Floyd riots. First, they make sure that not all the pertinent info about his death is seen. Then they keep fanning the flames with articles like "these other black people also said they could not breathe while interacting with police" no matter the context or consequences (while ignoring white people who died much the same way). And they wonder why people don't trust them anymore.

So-called 'scholars' like to downplay the effects of 'yellow journalism' in the lead up to the Spanish American War, but you know, it sure as hell didn't help to have Hearst saying 'you provide the pictures, and I'll provide the war'. I think that was the media's first taste of becoming not just a 'reporter' of news, but a shaper of it.

And it didn't have to be just 'shaping' a narrative. The New York Times really hates to be reminded that they still retain the Pulitzer that Walter Duranty won -- a Pulitzer which was given for stories which covered up the Holodomor. If someone with a scrap of integrity ever takes over the Times, they should return that Pulitzer and ask for Duranty to be stricken from the rolls.

So yeah, this has been a long time coming, and while the blatant nature of it is kind of surprising, overall it's not much of a surprise at all.

True that. Recently though, it's been almost comically obvious (if it wasn't so serious business). As in reporting "mostly peaceful" riots while the reporter is visibly under attack, or buildings are burning behind them. It has almost turned into the western equivalent of the North Korean media, where reporters are told to say the most ridiculous things, partially to test people's loyalty.

[Spike]

LOL

Jesus. You guys seriously are such suckers! Oh yes, the "expected" the state Supreme Court to unanimously agree they had no case. Uh huh!

I can believe it was expected. Pennsylvania elects their judges, and the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has 5 Democrat Judges and 2 Republicans, with the Republicans dissenting... unanimous in tossing the case out, but arguing that it needs the evidentary hearing, which it should have gotten at the PA SC.

And seeing how 'team jersey' politics has more or less taken over this country, especially from the Dem side (what is the Dem equivilent of the RINO? There isn't one, hasn't been since at least the Party Line vote for Obamacare).

It would be a foolish political strategist to NOT expect the ELECTED judges of PA, 5/2 Democrats (who, it should be noted, would benefit from pro-democrat vote fraud as elected rather than appointed officials) to toss the case out. 

Nevermind that from Nov 4 on, the official line has been to get all of this to SCOTUS, and the state SCs are a necessary stop along the way. Literally no one cares about this ruling, its just handy optics for you, which is why you are crowing so hard about nothing.

[deadDMwalking]

Any American should be frightened by the prospect of judges settings aside the will of the electorate and choosing a preferred candidate. 

The lawsuits to this point have not actually made the case that there is provable fraud, and certainly not on a wide-enough scale to reverse the election.  It was interesting that the recount in Wisconsin widened Biden's league. 

It shouldn't be surprising to anyone that 80 million American's wanted to move away from Trump.  Nor is it surprising that 74 million people SUPPORT Trump (though I'm a little surprised that so many decided to show up to the polls - many of them are not high-propensity voters). 

The fact is, if fraud is alleged, it could go both ways.  The fact of the matter is that Trump did better in some places that people didn't think he would.  But widespread, organized fraud in multiple states (including those with the voting apparatus overseen by Republicans like GA, AZ and PA) seems an outlandish claim. 

Regarding the 2016 election, I don't know any Democrats that thought Trump stole the election.  I think there was a perception that Clinton was guaranteed to win, and I think that just enough people were fooled by that and decided to vote 3rd party or otherwise issue a protest vote that it decided the election in Trump's favor.  Nothing about the result of the 2020 election seems particularly strange or inexplicable to me.  Urban voters voted for Democrats by huge margins; Rural voters voted for Republicans by huge margins; the suburbs were the battleground that everyone expected them to be. 

[jhkim]

Sadly, I don't think there's enough momentum to kick over the traces and demand new elections, even though the statistics and circumstantial evidence are so appalling there are probably third world countries snickering at us. We will probably get lucky with Georgia's senate runoffs which will stymie Biden, especially since the Dems managed to lose a shitload of House seats. Pelosi's hanging on by her fingernails there.

If the retard patrol in the House, aka 'The Squad' manages to irritate enough people, the midterms will hit Sleepy Joe and Kamala-Ho in the face like a brick.

I still haven't seen any sourced breakdown of statistics. Spinachcat referenced Matt Braynard's video in #1288, which was interesting - though he does not claim that Trump won the election. He apparently has a white paper coming out this week.

As for what will happen, I tend to agree with you that the courts will not back Trump, and Biden will become president -- but also that the midterm elections in 2022 will see gains by Republicans. In general, the midterm elections always go poorly for the party controlling the presidency - and in this case, that will likely mean that the Republicans will retake the House.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republicans-2020-gains-in-the-house-set-them-up-well-for-2022/

[Shasarak]

The dissenting judge agreed that there might be merit to their claim and that it would need to be reviewed but NOT at the expense of invalidating nearly seven million votes.

If you accept the fraudulent votes then you invalidate nearly seven million legitimate votes.