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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #1230 on: November 21, 2020, 02:16:22 pm »
Funny how people see what they want to see.

Anyone see Tucker Carlson's bit about Sidney Powell? He contacted her several times to present proof and she didn't, but threw a tantrum and told him to leave her alone.

People are not mad at Trump because they're scared he's got a case - everyone knows he doesn't. They're mad because he's fucking everyone by stalling the transition of power, and the the threat that he's going to try to stay in office unlawfully. Only his weak-brained drones still believe that he won the election, and they'll lap up anything he says. It is rather pathetic, like the idiots running the asylum.

Meanwhile, the liberal media keeps focusing on Trump's ongoing tantrum, ignoring that Biden is creating a centrist warhawk administration and screwing progressives, and thereby the American people. Trump's far worse, but fuck Biden too.
  What happens if Trump tells those weak minded drones to unleash and go ham?  If he says its 1776 to feed his huge ego?  How many take action?  What then?

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« Reply #1231 on: November 21, 2020, 02:57:43 pm »
The evidence will be brought into court.  We cannot know about it till court date unless we want the evidence to be tampered with.
I'll bet you ten-internets the courts fail this country.
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And then, the info dump came out:
https://twitter.com/JoannaBouras/status/1329456083681865733
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/fbi-agents-arrest-cincinnati-democrat-accepting-bribes-exchange-votes/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-attorney-sidney-powell-coinfirms-alleged-dominion-servers-germany-confiscated-video/
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1329507244270968832
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1329507246380707840
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-dominion-voting-systems-backs-testifying-pennsylvania-state-house-committee-hiding/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-steal-massive-expert-reveals-hundreds-thousands-trump-votes-shifted-biden-election-night/

I take it consolcwby thinks that the courts will not find that Trump won the election, and I tend to agree.

There's way too many claims in these links for me to look into. To me, the most notable among those is the claim that the U.S. Army seized Scytl server in Germany that fraudulent votes were routed through. If that is true, I'd expect some sort of official explanation upcoming, and I'm sure that evidence will make it into court - as it should. On the other hand, if it is false - then it goes towards discrediting those claiming it.


  What happens if Trump tells those weak minded drones to unleash and go ham?  If he says its 1776 to feed his huge ego?  How many take action?  What then?

If this were to happen, I would expect that there would be some pockets of violence. Contrary to some boogaloo predictions, I don't think that any significant branch of the military would switch to supporting civil war, so the action would be isolated, guerilla-style. I expect that the vast majority will not support violence against the incoming Biden administration, and the violence would reduce the popularity of Trumpism.

Following up on an off-topic point with oggsmash,

I have also never heard of a trans person attacking a woman in the restroom, and never even suggested such.  I have, on several occasions from real life LEOs heard accounts of predators attacking women in the women's restroom in public restrooms.  This is the same reason I do go with my 9yo son anytime he has to go to the bathroom, because there have also been kids (boys in this case) attacked by predators in the men's restroom.

It's an off-topic point. My main point is just that trans people are not a danger or unfit to be around children - and do not deserve to be beaten up for going to the restroom at the same time as a child. Your point seems compatible with that, and I don't care as much about further nuance.

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« Reply #1232 on: November 21, 2020, 03:27:14 pm »
People are not mad at Trump because they're scared he's got a case - everyone knows he doesn't. They're mad because he's fucking everyone by stalling the transition of power,

Trump is under no legal compulsion to concede. Concession is a nicety usually granted when a race isn't close and/or contested. This race was razor thin, and is contested.
Biden can wait his legal turn, and his supporters can just be patient.

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and the the threat that he's going to try to stay in office unlawfully.

The media has exaggerated this to the point of ludicrousness, and people are eating it up. They love to play-pretend that Trump's going to be physically dragged out of the White House while people throw rotten tomatoes at him. It's quite a demented revenge-porn daydream.

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Only his weak-brained drones still believe that he won the election, and they'll lap up anything he says. It is rather pathetic, like the idiots running the asylum.

Meanwhile, the liberal media keeps focusing on Trump's ongoing tantrum, ignoring that Biden is creating a centrist warhawk administration and screwing progressives, and thereby the American people. Trump's far worse, but fuck Biden too.

I think Biden is way worse. He supported Title IX and VAWA excesses that infringed on due process rights, he supported the Iraq war, and I imagine under Biden we'll be going back to the middle-east to blow up brown people in order to raise gas prices, and he'll be the George Bridges of the White House, rubber stamping all kinds of Critical Theory based sexism and racism.

Meanwhile, Trump talked a lot of stupid shit, but appointed Betsy DeVos, who fought for due process rights, Trump tried to get us out of the middle-east, and made (AFAIK) the first official move to get racist and sexist Critical Theory out of our government agencies.

I think Biden is going to be a disaster, and so I hope that Trump (or somebody) can pull a rabbit out of a hat.
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« Reply #1233 on: November 21, 2020, 05:17:10 pm »

So while we're better off than we were in the 1970s, it can feel like the average worker is falling behind. That's because they are. The workers haven't shared fully in the economy growth. Their slice is bigger in overall terms, but it's a smaller part of the overall pie.

Adjusted for Inflation from 1952 the average home price has risen 3.5 times. The cost of the average car has doubled, as have stamps, while college tuition has risen eight times.  Food is a mixed bag, and has mostly remained stable.

Meanwhile, average incomes have fallen to HALF. 


I'm sorry, but halved income and doubling or more of necessities such as homes, is not 'a bigger slice'.   If I have to work SEVEN TIMES as hard just to keep a roof over my head compared to the previous generation, then by no fucking definition am I doing better.  By no definition am I doing 'the same'. 

I'll remind you that the first fundamental principle of survival is shelter. Its also the base of the heirarchy of needs. This isn't some pissant nuisance like the cost of a fucking iPhone, or the price of gas (Mostly stable, 1% increase).

Pull the other one, its got bells.
That's complete nonsense. The average cost of homes has gone up, but so has the size of the homes. This isn't a case of a carton of milk costing three times as much as it used to, in real dollars. It's that we're now buying 3 cartons instead of 1. As people have gotten richer, they've decided they want to spent more of their money on comforts, like more living space. And if you compare living space per person, it's jumped even more, because family sizes have gotten smaller.

https://www.newser.com/story/225645/average-size-of-us-homes-decade-by-decade.html

No serious economist disputes that standards of living have improved, since the 1970s. Here are two wage curves, one from a left leaning site, one from a right leaning site:
https://www.epi.org/blog/professor-hubbards-claim-about-wage-and-compensation-stagnation-is-not-true/
https://www.heritage.org/jobs-and-labor/report/productivity-and-compensation-growing-together

The first one is fairly flat. Things haven't gotten much better, but things haven't gotten worse, in real dollars.  Though as I mentioned, that doesn't include improvements in existing products, like how much better TVs and computers are today than they were 3 decades ago, so it's an underestimate. The second curve slopes up a bit, and that's because it tracks total compensation, not just wages. Due to favorable tax exemptions, more of our income is included in benefits, like healthcare, rather than in a direct salary. Note it doesn't account for the improvements, either. So wages, and especially overall compensation, have increased (though slower than the overall growth in the economy, as I covered in my previous post).

What's changed is well illustrated by the housing example: People's expectations have risen, even faster. People expect a car per person, larger houses, a TV in every room, eating out or prepared food every night, and so on. They feel poorer because they're greedier and more demanding, not because things have gotten worse.

You can certainly make an argument that healthcare and education in particular have gotten more expensive, but that's a long separate discussion. We'd have to talk about the nearly 1:1 correspondence between government subsidies in education and increases in cost, and the huge rise in administrative staff. And in health care, we'd have to talk about the third party payer system, the distortions of Medicare, and the way the US subsidizes drugs and research for countries around the world. And for both, we'd have to talk about how the allocation of spending changes as the population gets richer.
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« Reply #1234 on: November 21, 2020, 09:53:42 pm »
Becuase they have nothing to hide and are in charge of many of the voting machines used in this Presidential Election. For the record I wouldn't trust any company founded in Central America to be in charge of anything North American, However here we are. Also super sad that it seems the President is correct and our recent election election has been seriously tampered with. (Mostly sad because he is not close to good enough to lead our nation, however doubly sad, because the deck is stacked, even against him and would be stacked against a competent or good candidate as well.  Shows how corrupt everything inside the beltway is.).

Dominion Voting Systems Lawyers up and abruptly backs out of a Pennsylvania State House fact-finding hearing, the same day Donald Trumps PA Court Challenges are thrown out by a biased judge.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/20/dominion-voting-systems-lawyers-up-abruptly-backs-out-of-pa-state-house-fact-finding-hearing/?fbclid=IwAR0lr6efCfNiHdnLaopTG8y4FhmcgyUHw_n70pol1ddDHFxakgMGQy2O9Xg

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« Reply #1235 on: November 21, 2020, 11:04:24 pm »
People are not mad at Trump because they're scared he's got a case - everyone knows he doesn't. They're mad because he's fucking everyone by stalling the transition of power,

Trump is under no legal compulsion to concede. Concession is a nicety usually granted when a race isn't close and/or contested. This race was razor thin, and is contested.
Biden can wait his legal turn, and his supporters can just be patient.

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and the the threat that he's going to try to stay in office unlawfully.

The media has exaggerated this to the point of ludicrousness, and people are eating it up. They love to play-pretend that Trump's going to be physically dragged out of the White House while people throw rotten tomatoes at him. It's quite a demented revenge-porn daydream.

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Only his weak-brained drones still believe that he won the election, and they'll lap up anything he says. It is rather pathetic, like the idiots running the asylum.

Meanwhile, the liberal media keeps focusing on Trump's ongoing tantrum, ignoring that Biden is creating a centrist warhawk administration and screwing progressives, and thereby the American people. Trump's far worse, but fuck Biden too.

I think Biden is way worse. He supported Title IX and VAWA excesses that infringed on due process rights, he supported the Iraq war, and I imagine under Biden we'll be going back to the middle-east to blow up brown people in order to raise gas prices, and he'll be the George Bridges of the White House, rubber stamping all kinds of Critical Theory based sexism and racism.

Meanwhile, Trump talked a lot of stupid shit, but appointed Betsy DeVos, who fought for due process rights, Trump tried to get us out of the middle-east, and made (AFAIK) the first official move to get racist and sexist Critical Theory out of our government agencies.

I think Biden is going to be a disaster, and so I hope that Trump (or somebody) can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

  I have to agree, a statement about trump being FAR worse than Biden is certainly not looking at history, facts, and damn sure not from someone who has been in the military and suddenly realized they are also in a war.   I suppose some people trivialize blowing people up for no reason past GE and Lockheed Martin need to sell some merch, I also suspect since they do not get a George Floyd style graphic video as to what a battle field and modern war wounds look like when received real time, they get their priorities all muddled.   I think there should be graphic broadcasts by the media as to what war looks like in real time, in the battles, and I have a feeling we would have no public support ever again for nutty foreign adventures.

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« Reply #1236 on: November 21, 2020, 11:25:02 pm »
What happens if Trump tells those weak minded drones to unleash and go ham?  If he says its 1776 to feed his huge ego?  How many take action?  What then?

Balkanization and/or civil war is on its way, regardless of the election.

The Democrats have proven they will use a laughable amount of election fraud to get their way and if Trump's legal team isn't victorious, election fraud will be the election system of the future. Empowered by their "victory", the Left will go hog wild pushing their communist bullshit. They have overplayed their hand and they will double down on overplaying.

Whether or not Trump calls for 1776 2.0, its already being discussed louder with each passing day, especially as more Democrat governors keep LARPing Corona-Dictator and Biden's press conferences promise even more misery.

You never know where the spark of revolution might be lit. It may be the election fraud, it may be poverty caused by the lockdowns, or it may be something that appears minor, but becomes the final straw for men of action.

It's hard for leftists to imagine men of action exist because they're urbanites eating microwaved chicken tendies and anyone who isn't a leftist is just a "dumb poor hill billy" without any thought that guys who shoot deer - and don't hate the deer - are going to be equally good at shooting when the target is something they truly hate and seek to destroy.

As for the military revolting and/or putting down a revolt, there's enough patriots still in the military to ensure that the infrastructure necessary for the military to overwhelm the people is broken beyond repair.

Finally, there's this delusion that you need 100 million people to take down Biden's clown car. If 99% of America sits home, 1% is 3.3 million people. If only 1% of those people take action, that's 33,000 active shooters. If 10% of America provides "comfort and support" to those shooters, that's 33 million sympathetic supporters who will help to hide them, supply them and make sure they win.

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« Reply #1237 on: November 22, 2020, 12:34:31 am »
This was funny.
https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1329563673917009920

Mike Pence delivers an update from the Coronavirus Task Force, and then just walks away without taking any questions. Because he didn't stick around to take their abuse, the clowns in the White House press corp completely flipped out, and ended up shouting accusations at an empty room.

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« Reply #1238 on: November 22, 2020, 12:56:07 am »
Biden's so magical that he keeps on getting statistically impossible voting numbers.

98% out of a 23k batch! That fat boi in North Korea be jealous!!



The presenter is dull, but thorough. It's easy math to follow.

Of course, 98% of 23,487 votes is totally understandable and absolutely no evidence of anything, most especially no evidence of election tampering.


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« Reply #1239 on: November 22, 2020, 08:29:10 am »
Funny how people see what they want to see.

Anyone see Tucker Carlson's bit about Sidney Powell? He contacted her several times to present proof and she didn't, but threw a tantrum and told him to leave her alone.

People are not mad at Trump because they're scared he's got a case - everyone knows he doesn't. They're mad because he's fucking everyone by stalling the transition of power, and the the threat that he's going to try to stay in office unlawfully. Only his weak-brained drones still believe that he won the election, and they'll lap up anything he says. It is rather pathetic, like the idiots running the asylum.

Meanwhile, the liberal media keeps focusing on Trump's ongoing tantrum, ignoring that Biden is creating a centrist warhawk administration and screwing progressives, and thereby the American people. Trump's far worse, but fuck Biden too.

How true. Susan Rice is the lead-off batter for Biden's starting lineup and her record is every bit as disgusting as Mike Pompeo's -only Pompeo's apologists never stooped to hiding his crimes behind his gender. Susan Rice's pet project was to use Al Qaeda (remember them from 9/11?) to overthrow Assad in Syria and Qadaffi in Libya. Rice's new friends were so vile (selling girls as sex slaves, beheading little boys, etc) that they turned a thug like Assad into a national hero, since he killed the head-choppers and rapists by the bushel.

In order to gin up war fever in Libya, Susan Rice concocted a Goebbelian lie that was as racist as it was absurd: that Qadaffi had hired black mercenaries, issued them Viagra and ordered them to commit rape. David Duke would have been hard-pressed to dream up a lie so racist and perverted.  Rania Khalek describes what happened in Libya here:



Who needs Mike Pompeo or Elliott Abrams with this sort of bloodthirsty ghoul on the loose? Here's more on what Rice did to Libya:

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« Reply #1240 on: November 22, 2020, 02:15:10 pm »
I dunno, I think I may be going crazy... hearing voices and shit.

I keep seeing this conversation play out, where someone alleges fraud, someone else asks for proof or evidence or what have you, and then someone else provides a link to a source (lots of different sources so far)...

But here is the crazy part. Every single time they do someone always seems to post (or say, in real life convos)...

"It didn't come from Pravda, so I don't believe it."

I can't be hearing that, can I?  I mean... Pravda isn't even an American news source!  And I keep seeing it, all the time! From different posters, in response to different claims and different sources of different evidence and different claims. Over and over and over again. 

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« Reply #1241 on: November 22, 2020, 02:18:48 pm »
I'm apparently hearing the same voices... lol. The genetic fallacy is one of the most abused fallacies on the internet...
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« Reply #1242 on: November 22, 2020, 02:21:24 pm »
Meanwhile, the liberal media keeps focusing on Trump's ongoing tantrum, ignoring that Biden is creating a centrist warhawk administration and screwing progressives, and thereby the American people. Trump's far worse, but fuck Biden too.


How true. Susan Rice is the lead-off batter for Biden's starting lineup and her record is every bit as disgusting as Mike Pompeo's -only Pompeo's apologists never stooped to hiding his crimes behind his gender. Susan Rice's pet project was to use Al Qaeda (remember them from 9/11?) to overthrow Assad in Syria and Qadaffi in Libya. Rice's new friends were so vile (selling girls as sex slaves, beheading little boys, etc) that they turned a thug like Assad into a national hero, since he killed the head-choppers and rapists by the bushel.

In order to gin up war fever in Libya, Susan Rice concocted a Goebbelian lie that was as racist as it was absurd: that Qadaffi had hired black mercenaries, issued them Viagra and ordered them to commit rape. David Duke would have been hard-pressed to dream up a lie so racist and perverted. 

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« Reply #1243 on: November 22, 2020, 03:40:33 pm »
You two should be happy.  You're getting what you voted for.
It'll be interesting to watch the anti-war contingent (assuming they weren't utterly purged during Obama's presidency) try to square the circle of 'Biden is a good boi' with him sending troops into Syria, etc.

Say what you will about Trump; he didn't start any new wars, smoked a couple high value targets with precision strikes, and has been at least trying to bring the troops home (the revelation that the State Department was subverting his orders on getting soldiers out of Syria pisses me off).

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« Reply #1244 on: November 23, 2020, 03:26:29 am »
Greetings!

FEC Chairman Trey Trainor discusses how fraud has been confirmed in the 2020 election, and can be seen in video.

Semper Fidelis,

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