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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Spinachcat

Let's have a reality check. We are talking about transvestites as no "trans" people exists outside of fantasy. Nothing in science can turn a boy into a girl and this societal delusion that dudes who get fake boobs magically turn into women is retarded.

But hey, it's America. I don't care what adults do to themselves as long as it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but I won't bend to anyone's delusion.

As for who's shitting where and what they do in the shitter, I'm unconcerned because if a freak wants to stalk women & kids in the girl's potty, they'll do that with or without their dick chopped off. There's no pre-emptive law that can protect restrooms from sexual predators (except perhaps open carry laws). Assault laws don't prevent anything. They just punish after the fact.

I get the concern that male predators can don a dress and slip into the bathroom, but what stopped them from doing that three decades ago? And how many big box stores REALLY monitor who goes into their shitters or how long they stay there?

The only solution I see is single occupant unisex bathrooms, but that's expensive and results in less bathrooms. Either that, or make all bathrooms universal and let women smell our mega-dumps and experience our awesome pee accuracy in action! 

EOTB

Quote from: jhkim on November 18, 2020, 08:52:44 PM
Quote from: SHARK on November 18, 2020, 07:55:51 PM
You know what? Put some "gender fluid" Trans freak in the bathroom with *my daughter*--and I guarantee you that my response to the Trans freak wouldn't be pretty, nice, or sweet.

I don't care how many of its "rights" I violate, either. The Trans freak is going to have a lot more to worry about than his "rights" being violated.

Oh, is that "escalating violence"? Reee all you want. I make no apologies. These goddamned freaks do not belong anywhere near our women, our daughters, or family!

This is getting hugely off-topic, but I will do my damndest to beat the shit out of you if you lay a finger on a kid in my house - or any other kid - just for going to the goddamn bathroom. Living in the Bay Area, I know a bunch of kids who identify as non-binary or gender fluid. This includes the family who live in the other half of my duplex, whose kid I watched grow from a baby to an awesome high school senior now. I chatted with them recently about their going to Korea next semester for study abroad, which they're excited about. It baffles and enrages me that someone would come and beat them up just for going to the bathroom. The same goes for the children of all my other family, friends, and community members.

Perfect example of disingenuous bullshit or pathological aversion to context.

Shark isn't talking about pre-pubescents, he's talking about potential sexual predators in a dress.  The context is clear and taking it otherwise is not signaling high INT
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oggsmash

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 PM
Let's have a reality check. We are talking about transvestites as no "trans" people exists outside of fantasy. Nothing in science can turn a boy into a girl and this societal delusion that dudes who get fake boobs magically turn into women is retarded.

But hey, it's America. I don't care what adults do to themselves as long as it doesn't affect me in the slightest, but I won't bend to anyone's delusion.

As for who's shitting where and what they do in the shitter, I'm unconcerned because if a freak wants to stalk women & kids in the girl's potty, they'll do that with or without their dick chopped off. There's no pre-emptive law that can protect restrooms from sexual predators (except perhaps open carry laws). Assault laws don't prevent anything. They just punish after the fact.

I get the concern that male predators can don a dress and slip into the bathroom, but what stopped them from doing that three decades ago? And how many big box stores REALLY monitor who goes into their shitters or how long they stay there?

The only solution I see is single occupant unisex bathrooms, but that's expensive and results in less bathrooms. Either that, or make all bathrooms universal and let women smell our mega-dumps and experience our awesome pee accuracy in action!
The MO now is not to dress as a female, but to slip in during an off time, usually close to closing of a store or late hours in something like a public park.  Then stand on the toilet until one you "like" comes in.  Then mayhem.  I know this because of three different police officers on three different occasions over the course of those same 3 decades you mention giving me the story on recent crimes they personally investigated or were first on the scene.  If its suddenly ok for dudes to say they are women (and lets not be foolish, there will be women, who may see a dude who gives them the creeps...but will go into that bathroom anyway just not to appear phobic) the numbers will tick up, 10 percent?  20? 1? 100? I dont know.  I know its fucktarded to increase any risk at such a thing.  If it becomes a thing, well the women will have to tolerate me going into the facility with my daughter., JUST like I do with my son now, because dudes are in there with him (aka predators)  I will be polite and not drop a thunder deuce while waiting for the daughter though.

consolcwby

This is from Nov 1 2017, which is one of the first Qanon (I know, I know!) posts:
"My fellow Americans, over the course of the next several days you will undoubtedly realize that we are taking back our great country (the land of the free) from the evil tyrants that wish to do us harm and destroy the last remaining refuge of shining light. On POTUS' order, we have initiated certain fail-safes that shall safeguard the public from the primary fallout which is slated to occur 11.3 upon the arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4). Confirmation (to the public) of what is occurring will then be revealed and will not be openly accepted. Public riots are being organized in serious numbers in an effort to prevent the arrest and capture of more senior public officials. On POTUS' order, a state of temporary military control will be actioned and special ops carried out. False leaks have been made to retain several within the confines of the United States to prevent extradition and special operator necessity. Rest assured, the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child of this country is being exhausted in full. However, the atmosphere within the country will unfortunately be divided as so many have fallen for the corrupt and evil narrative that has long been broadcast. We will be initiating the Emergency Broadcast System (EMS) during this time in an effort to provide a direct message (avoiding the fake news) to all citizens. Organizations and/or people that wish to do us harm during this time will be met with swift fury – certain laws have been pre-lifted to provide our great military the necessary authority to handle and conduct these operations (at home and abroad)."

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/147547939/#147567888

This is interesting, since it points to something which would be in the works currently... hm. Is it possible for something 3 years old to be executed now, though?
I find this rather like an episode of Doctor Who - the episode "Blink": https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS29E10Blink

If this is a LARP - I want to join! :D I'll be the Gender-fluid trans-Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B with a rainbow colored camouflage pattern with antifash flags all over it! lol Like, TOTALLY Psychedelic, man!
(j/k - just thought this was interesting...)
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Snowman0147

Quote from: EOTB on November 18, 2020, 10:04:56 PM
Perfect example of disingenuous bullshit or pathological aversion to context.

Shark isn't talking about pre-pubescents, he's talking about potential sexual predators in a dress.  The context is clear and taking it otherwise is not signaling high INT

Not surprising really.  jhkim has always been the slippery snake in the grass that poses as a friendly king snake one second before showing his true colors the next.  He waits for fools so can inject them with his venom.

Spinachcat

Macris is echoing multiple discussions I've seen in the past two weeks, and most of them have been carefully detailed as well (but I'm not a lawyer or Constitutional scholar to certify their statements). If they are right, Trump certainly has the law on his side and he's got Abe Lincoln as previous precedent of protecting the union by any means necessary.

It would be most unfortunate (and very scary for the entire planet) if Trump has to use the nuclear option, which is exactly why I hope that Sidney Powell truly has the evidence she claims and truly has the ability to achieve victory as she claims.

I'm well-aware that most lawyers like hyperbole, especially in politically partisan cases via "trial by internet" where half the gig is public PR moves, but I've read discussions by posters who claim to be lawyers who say that Sidney either wins BIG or her law license is toast, her career is toast and she's open to enough defamation suits to leave her in poverty.

But I'd rather Trump go nuclear than America fall.
...most especially for the LOLZ.

EOTB

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 PM
I get the concern that male predators can don a dress and slip into the bathroom, but what stopped them from doing that three decades ago?

Wasn't the entire point of publicly changing the law to shame people to stop them from making a scene if noticing males dressed like women entering the women's bathroom?  I would think that historically had a chilling effect on males dressed like women entering the women's bathroom.
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SHARK

Quote from: consolcwby on November 18, 2020, 10:10:48 PM
This is from Nov 1 2017, which is one of the first Qanon (I know, I know!) posts:
"My fellow Americans, over the course of the next several days you will undoubtedly realize that we are taking back our great country (the land of the free) from the evil tyrants that wish to do us harm and destroy the last remaining refuge of shining light. On POTUS' order, we have initiated certain fail-safes that shall safeguard the public from the primary fallout which is slated to occur 11.3 upon the arrest announcement of Mr. Podesta (actionable 11.4). Confirmation (to the public) of what is occurring will then be revealed and will not be openly accepted. Public riots are being organized in serious numbers in an effort to prevent the arrest and capture of more senior public officials. On POTUS' order, a state of temporary military control will be actioned and special ops carried out. False leaks have been made to retain several within the confines of the United States to prevent extradition and special operator necessity. Rest assured, the safety and well-being of every man, woman, and child of this country is being exhausted in full. However, the atmosphere within the country will unfortunately be divided as so many have fallen for the corrupt and evil narrative that has long been broadcast. We will be initiating the Emergency Broadcast System (EMS) during this time in an effort to provide a direct message (avoiding the fake news) to all citizens. Organizations and/or people that wish to do us harm during this time will be met with swift fury – certain laws have been pre-lifted to provide our great military the necessary authority to handle and conduct these operations (at home and abroad)."

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/147547939/#147567888

This is interesting, since it points to something which would be in the works currently... hm. Is it possible for something 3 years old to be executed now, though?
I find this rather like an episode of Doctor Who - the episode "Blink": https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/DoctorWhoS29E10Blink

If this is a LARP - I want to join! :D I'll be the Gender-fluid trans-Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. B with a rainbow colored camouflage pattern with antifash flags all over it! lol Like, TOTALLY Psychedelic, man!
(j/k - just thought this was interesting...)

Greetings!

Very interesting, Consolcwby! President Trump needs to defend the Union from Marxist traitors and corrupt Democrats seeking to aid and abet an unlawful and unconstitutional overthrow of the government of the United States. The will of the people must be enforced, and those that seek to undermine and corrupt the will of the people should be brought to justice.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Spinachcat

Quote from: oggsmash on November 18, 2020, 10:07:44 PMIf it becomes a thing, well the women will have to tolerate me going into the facility with my daughter., JUST like I do with my son now, because dudes are in there with him (aka predators)  I will be polite and not drop a thunder deuce while waiting for the daughter though.

I've seen plenty of dads bring their daughter into the men's room and stand guard outside the toilet. It's exactly what I would do.

Hell, if I have slightest twitch that a bathroom is sketchy, I check it before my girlfriend uses it or I just have her use the dude's room if it doesn't reek of Armageddon.

oggsmash

Quote from: EOTB on November 18, 2020, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat on November 18, 2020, 10:00:06 PM
I get the concern that male predators can don a dress and slip into the bathroom, but what stopped them from doing that three decades ago?

Wasn't the entire point of publicly changing the law to shame people to stop them from making a scene if noticing males dressed like women entering the women's bathroom?  I would think that historically had a chilling effect on males dressed like women entering the women's bathroom.
And it was framed in such a way that it wouldnt matter how the 'woman' was dressed, if 'she' had t shirt, jeans and a 5 o'clock shadow, no challenges or questions, lest ye be judged.

oggsmash

Quote from: Spinachcat on November 18, 2020, 10:21:32 PM
Quote from: oggsmash on November 18, 2020, 10:07:44 PMIf it becomes a thing, well the women will have to tolerate me going into the facility with my daughter., JUST like I do with my son now, because dudes are in there with him (aka predators)  I will be polite and not drop a thunder deuce while waiting for the daughter though.

I've seen plenty of dads bring their daughter into the men's room and stand guard outside the toilet. It's exactly what I would do.

Hell, if I have slightest twitch that a bathroom is sketchy, I check it before my girlfriend uses it or I just have her use the dude's room if it doesn't reek of Armageddon.
You are in Cali, correct?  Is it law there for public restrooms to be trans as well?  I do not live  in cali, and have no desire to move to cali, and I certainly do not want cali to move to me.

SHARK

Quote from: EOTB on November 18, 2020, 10:04:56 PM
Quote from: jhkim on November 18, 2020, 08:52:44 PM
Quote from: SHARK on November 18, 2020, 07:55:51 PM
You know what? Put some "gender fluid" Trans freak in the bathroom with *my daughter*--and I guarantee you that my response to the Trans freak wouldn't be pretty, nice, or sweet.

I don't care how many of its "rights" I violate, either. The Trans freak is going to have a lot more to worry about than his "rights" being violated.

Oh, is that "escalating violence"? Reee all you want. I make no apologies. These goddamned freaks do not belong anywhere near our women, our daughters, or family!

This is getting hugely off-topic, but I will do my damndest to beat the shit out of you if you lay a finger on a kid in my house - or any other kid - just for going to the goddamn bathroom. Living in the Bay Area, I know a bunch of kids who identify as non-binary or gender fluid. This includes the family who live in the other half of my duplex, whose kid I watched grow from a baby to an awesome high school senior now. I chatted with them recently about their going to Korea next semester for study abroad, which they're excited about. It baffles and enrages me that someone would come and beat them up just for going to the bathroom. The same goes for the children of all my other family, friends, and community members.

Perfect example of disingenuous bullshit or pathological aversion to context.

Shark isn't talking about pre-pubescents, he's talking about potential sexual predators in a dress.  The context is clear and taking it otherwise is not signaling high INT

Greetings!

Thank you, EOTB. Outstanding!

See, this right here is why the animosity and hatred is growing, and being inflamed. Normal people--myself, you and others--speak in references that we all understand quite well, without being held by the hand and spoken to in escalating caveated detail. Then, the Leftists come along, and hearing the same conversation, go into Body Snatcher Mode, and they wonder why we either want them all shipped off to an island somewhere, or just beat them with a lead pipe. Leftists have this twisted, corrupt, fucked up lens of reality, where it makes it exasperating and very difficult to often have the simplest of conversations with them.

If I was to go to my local auto shop, or the gym, or my church, and ask anyone there--men or women--if they thought it was a good idea to let men dressed up as women into women's bathrooms--they would all unanimously say no fucking way. If I suggested that would they feel threatened if their niece or their young daughter went into a women's bathroom--and a man dressed as a woman also went inside--they would all say yes, they would feel very uncomfortable, and even threatened by such. I imagine more than a few of them--not all men, either by the way--would be very quickly looking to get violent with such a man dressed up as a woman, being in the bathroom with their little girl.

But somehow, Leftists don't understand this sentiment at all.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
"It is the Marine Corps that will strip away the façade so easily confused with self. It is the Corps that will offer the pain needed to buy the truth. And at last, each will own the privilege of looking inside himself  to discover what truly resides there. Comfort is an illusion. A false security b

Shasarak

Quote from: EOTB on November 18, 2020, 06:51:49 PM
Interesting thought experiment from Macris

https://macris.substack.com/p/trump-at-the-rubicon

There are a couple of problems with Maxris's thought experiment.

1) Biden is not going to come after Trump when he is not President; there is no way that the Swamp is going to unleash that Kraken that will devour him as soon as he is not President.

and b) Trump is not going to cross the rubicon with his army, Trump is just neither a Caesar nor a Hitler.
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EOTB

Apart from the election: Mistwell's comments as a TRUE CONSERVATIVE who, like Reagan, believes we all need to move on from any qualms regarding bathrooms and who enters them, reframes the real issue with the election.

It isn't about Trump.  Entirely.

It's also about how for the 1st time in our lifetimes, we had a president who didn't feel like a fist-puppet for a global elite robbing us blind.  Trump is an expert at the use of soft power, but since the bureaucracy is largely immune to firing the bully pulpit isn't what it used to be.  Let's face it - he doesn't even control the executive branch.  This fact alone is why I feel largely resigned to eventual kinetic activities - the system has been used very well to legally place the system outside of voter control.  The presidency is the most powerful man in the world and the least powerful man in government simultaneously.  A single district judge can veto whatever the president tries to do, nationwide, for a couple of years out of a 4-year term. 

And this happened because the Republican party has become the pace-and-lead party.  if you're not familiar with pacing and leading as a concept, read about it: http://www.changingminds.org/techniques/general/sequential/pace_lead.htm

The republican role in the uniparty is to pace-and-lead you into accepting globalism.  Trump can win every single court case, take office in January on schedule, and if the Lincoln Party's of the world retain ideological power in the Republican party at large, it will not matter.  Trump's next 4 years will come and go, and the uniparty will absorb the delay like Russia absorbs the first year of an invasion.  That is how far the uniparty has placed the real levers of power from voter influence.

If Americans won't burn the republican party to the ground and make it go the way of the Whig party into historical irrelevance, while starting a new party that is opposed to everything that the Dems want and the Republicans pace and lead you towards - it isn't going to matter. 

Please.  Each of you.  Work in your communities to elect local officials, and then state officials, that come from your own ranks instead of those vetted by the republican party.  By the time we hear about them on the national stage they're already hopelessly corrupted.  You don't get a ticket to ride in the national show if they aren't very sure about your dependability to them. 

That's why Trump was so relentlessly character-assassinated.  He didn't have a ticket to ride.

And relentlessly primary existing republicans out of office.  If they're the "free market party" then that's the only rational response to their constant failure to do anything they say; the ratio of doing what they promise they'll prevent vs. doing what they promise when campaigning should be all you as an American need to see.

This is about more than stealing the vote.  As weird as it is to say that stealing the vote here is not the real concern.
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EOTB

Quote from: SHARK on November 18, 2020, 10:30:52 PM

But somehow, Leftists don't understand this sentiment at all.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

― Upton Sinclair

And so they never will understand it.  Which is why I very non-diplomatically counsel derision upon any who practice this bullshit.
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