2020 Election Commentary

[Manic Modron]

And before you say 'But, we can't do that!' that's not my fucking problem, sweetcheeks. You wanted to know what it would take; well, there you go.

I am unconcerned with rebuttal or argument, I was curious about the answer to one question and don't actually give a shit about whatever fight you were expecting

Your other paragraphs were less bitchy though and the art gallery analogy is a good one.



In general, the answers have been interesting though, so thank you all.

[Pat]

Absolutely we should investigate. But the correct answer also isn't "I *know* for certain the election was stolen because of what I read on Twitter". There needs to be some sort of vetting process and confirmation before I will believe a claim. Maybe they're true, maybe they're not - but it should wait for some sort of check.

I was just listening to NPR. They were saying that Biden won, full stop, and that Trump was making allegations of fraud, with no evidence. That's how they phrased it. They didn't say there was insufficient evidence, or that it was contested, that the number of disputed votes weren't enough to flip the election, or anything else that might admit even a shred of uncertainty. And they said it endlessly, because every single time they mentioned the allegations, they included the caveat "with no evidence". It was repeated so often, it almost became a mantra. And it wasn't presented as the opinion of the media, a broad consensus, or even something up for dispute. They certainly never even hinted that the allegations should be investigated. It was treated like a universal truth, received wisdom that needs no explanation or justification. This was accompanied by dire warnings, that Trump's failure to capitulate threatens national security, the standing of the US in the community of nations, and more.

Given that's how virtually all the media are treating the matter, why is this your priority?

But we need a process to determine one way or the other, and it should be followed honestly and fairly. Claims of fraud should be given due process, but until there is proof otherwise, the vote should be followed.

If you believe that, you should be objecting vociferously to how the media has handled this, because the vote hasn't been certified. The media does not decide who wins the election, the states do.

[Ghostmaker]

I am unconcerned with rebuttal or argument, I was curious about the answer to one question and don't actually give a shit about whatever fight you were expecting

Your other paragraphs were less bitchy though and the art gallery analogy is a good one.



In general, the answers have been interesting though, so thank you all.

I apologize. My sinuses are acting up and I am quite irritated with how the media, both legacy and new-Internet, are basically doing their best Pravda impersonations.

[Manic Modron]

I am unconcerned with rebuttal or argument, I was curious about the answer to one question and don't actually give a shit about whatever fight you were expecting

Your other paragraphs were less bitchy though and the art gallery analogy is a good one.



In general, the answers have been interesting though, so thank you all.

I apologize. My sinuses are acting up and I am quite irritated with how the media, both legacy and new-Internet, are basically doing their best Pravda impersonations.

I assumed the worst from you as well, I accept your apology and offer my own.

[Ratman_tf]

  I do find a great deal of irony in institutions that peddled the notion an election could be swung by "Russian Collusion" for damn near 4 years now feels that all we can do is honor the election results and move forward.  OR perhaps never be employable again.  I wonder if those dipshits know this is how you get people to finally do what you thought trump was doing,  provocations to hurt people in the press.

Yep. I have no sympathy for anyone who breathed a word of russian interference and now want us to believe this election was straight up because their guy won.

[Shasarak]

  I do find a great deal of irony in institutions that peddled the notion an election could be swung by "Russian Collusion" for damn near 4 years now feels that all we can do is honor the election results and move forward.  OR perhaps never be employable again.  I wonder if those dipshits know this is how you get people to finally do what you thought trump was doing,  provocations to hurt people in the press.

Yep. I have no sympathy for anyone who breathed a word of russian interference and now want us to believe this election was straight up because their guy won.

The main stream news in NZ is reporting that foreign countries are already calling Biden to claim their markers.

[myleftnut]

  I do find a great deal of irony in institutions that peddled the notion an election could be swung by "Russian Collusion" for damn near 4 years now feels that all we can do is honor the election results and move forward.  OR perhaps never be employable again.  I wonder if those dipshits know this is how you get people to finally do what you thought trump was doing,  provocations to hurt people in the press.

Yep. I have no sympathy for anyone who breathed a word of russian interference and now want us to believe this election was straight up because their guy won.

Word.  No doubt all of our enemies are running interference campaigns just as we are doing the same to them. 

[Mistwell]

Remember the video of the postal worker who says he helped commit fraud to help Biden, posted earlier in this thread? You know, the one that Project Veritas was all over?

Yeah, he admits now he made the whole thing up. Link

Gee, who could have possibly seen that coming? Oh right.

[Brad]

Remember the video of the postal worker who says he helped commit fraud to help Biden, posted earlier in this thread? You know, the one that Project Veritas was all over?

Yeah, he admits now he made the whole thing up. Link

Gee, who could have possibly seen that coming? Oh right.

LOL https://youtu.be/ibU5KVFCg4Y

[myleftnut]

I really need to call Project Veritas with some bullshit so I can get dat sweet GoFundMe chinga ching ching 

[Pat]

Pollster analyzing the polls and election results. Warning, it's stupidly long, he seems to be speaking to his existing audience so there were references I didn't catch, and it can be hard to follow at times, but there's some good content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em0R9DRSbIE

[Mistwell]

Remember the video of the postal worker who says he helped commit fraud to help Biden, posted earlier in this thread? You know, the one that Project Veritas was all over?

Yeah, he admits now he made the whole thing up. Link

Gee, who could have possibly seen that coming? Oh right.

LOL https://youtu.be/ibU5KVFCg4Y

$10 says he is full of shit.

[Spinachcat]

Math continues to be totally racist.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-exclusive-analysis-election-night-data-states-shows-millions-votes-either-switched-president-trump-biden-lost/

[Spinachcat]

What would you need to believe that you were actually in the wrong and this election was actually valid or compromised?

A lobotomy.

[Spinachcat]

The main stream news in NZ is reporting that foreign countries are already calling Biden to claim their markers.

Did they mention which countries? That would be an interesting list to drop some harm upon.