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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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Brad

It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

consolcwby

Quote from: Mistwell on November 06, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Oh yeah Project Veritas depends on their reliability...like literally the complete fraud they posted JUST LAST MONTH. Dumbasses.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/politics/project-veritas-ilhan-omar.html

The short of it, Project Veritas was taken in by a totally fraudulent claim in a video in September. Liban Osman, subject of Project Veritas alleged voter fraud story, tells @LydenFOX9 he was offered $10K by Omar Jamal to say he was collecting ballots for Congresswoman @IlhanMN.

So yeah, not a good source to be claiming they are a shining example of truthfulness and credibility.

The "dead people voted in Pennsylvania" stuff is fraudulent claim too:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-election-misinformation-distortions

Finally, the Project Veritas Michigan "postage backdating" claim was debunked the same day it came out (the date on the envelope is irrelevant to whether or not it is counted since it had to physically be there on time to be counted):

https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclair-broadcast-group/sinclair-broadcast-group-spreads-debunked-project-veritas-disinformation

I seriously hate sore losers. I hated it when Democrats did it in 2000 and then in 2004 again, and I hate it now that Republicans are doing it in 2020. Same bullshit, different tribe.
You quoted the New York Times and Media Matters! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! I take it you're quite the troll here! I honestly LOL'd! Good job! Keep it up!

Quote from: SHARK on November 06, 2020, 02:53:31 PM
Greetings!

It is boggling to think this country will swallow the fucking Marxists defrauding the election to gain power and overthrow our Republic. Biden and Kamala? The idea that this election would be close is absurd.

The country wants to be on their knees and plough-fucked in the ass by Marxism, and have their guns taken away so they can be defenseless sheep, sucking down more globalist, cock-sucking Liberal jello.

Fucking pathetic.

This country had better wake the fuck up and fight against the goddamned Marxist takeover of our nation or we are fucked into oblivion. Fuck all the whiny, cock-sucking Liberal Marxist sheep. There won't be another election, for all the mushy middle "reasonable" sheep. If the country can't keep a ticket like Biden and Harris from siezing power, what fucking hope would the country have against an actually stronger, slicker, more competent, and glossier Marxist ticket, like, oh, AOC? This country is going to fucking burn. This is the 11th hour, and the barbarians are at te gates. America is on the edge of plunging into the abyss.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK
Don't blame the people for being oblivious. Most do not understand what Pychological Warfare looks like, or sounds like. All they know, all they've ever known, is what they have been told. As you can see from the bullshit I've taken (if you paid attention), then you should know that ANYONE who questions them or even PROVES THEM WRONG is immediately issued insults, attempts are made to discredit them, and are essentially told to prove themselves by those who wish them harm. "SHUT UP! I'm smarter than you. SHUT UP! I'm faster than you. SHUT UP! I'm going to kill you." If you fall into the psychwarfare trap, then they have you. Which is why I ignore them. They are not worth nor worthy to be replied to. They ARE the Philosophical Zombies. And they will one day regret what they have done. These are the armies, not of flesh and blood, but of the spirit of antichrist. Remember, there are many antichrists. Don't fall into this trap they have set.
https://www.rand.org/topics/psychological-warfare.html

Good luck, my brother!
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jeff37923

Sworn affidavit of Robert Cushman

QuoteAFFIDAVIT - Draft
The Affiant, Robert Cushman, being first duly sworn, hereby deposes and states as follows:

My name is Robert Cushman.  I am an adult citizen and resident of the State of Michigan.

I served and was trained to be a poll challenger for the November 2020 election in Detroit, Michigan.

During my observations of the normal processing of ballots on November 4th between about 0745 AM and 0830 AM I was substantially obstructed from performing my challenger duties of observing and making notes at Board Number 31. The persons involved either directly or indirectly involved: 1. A worker , 2. A supervisor , 3 an unknown  person with no credentials, 4 a Democratic Challenger with credentials and one of the AVCB leaders .

On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, Detroit election officials told us that they were going to process military ballots last. I did my best to try to observe the processing/duplication of the military ballots.

On November 4, 2020, I was surprised to see numerous new boxes of ballots arrive at the TCF Center in the evening. I first noticed these boxes in the distribution area after many of the military ballots had been distributed and processed.  I estimate these boxes contained several thousand new ballots when they appeared.

The main list of persons who had registered to vote on or before November 1, 2020, was listed on an electronic poll book, often referred to as the QVF. As I understand it, the Supplemental Sheets were the lists of persons who had registered to vote on November 2, 2020 or November 3, 2020.

I observed that none of the names on these new ballots were on the QVF or the Supplemental Sheets.

I saw the computer operators at several counting boards manually adding the names and addresses of these thousands of ballots to the QVF system.

When I asked what the possible justification was to counting ballots from unknown, unverified "persons", I was told by election supervisors that the Wayne County Clerk's Office had "checked them out."

I challenged not one ballet, but the entire process as the names were not in the Poll Books or Supplemental Sheets and because the DOB's were all wrong, all being marked as 01-01-1900.

An Election Supervisor near board number #86 advised me to go to the podium of election officials and ask one of them to help me. I did, and I enlisted the help of one of the leaders, a young man named Anthony Miller.

Mr. Miller walked me back to board number #86 and asked what I wanted the challenge to say. I said that I did not want to challenge just one ballot, but the entire process, as I was witnessing several thousand ballots inputted illegally. 

Mr. Miller advised the computer operator what to type in as a challenge so that it was part of the Official Record in the Poll Book for Board Number #86. 

I challenged the authority and the authenticity of all of these ballots that were being processed late with absolutely no accompanying documentation, no corresponding name in the QVF, and no corresponding name in the Supplemental List.

Every ballot was being fraudulently and manually entered into the Electronic Poll Book (QVF), as having been born on January 1, 1900.  This "last" batch of ballots was processed in the 8 PM to 10 PM time frame.

When I asked about this impossibility of each ballot having the same birthday occurring in 1900, I was told that was the instruction that came down from the Wayne County Clerk's office. 

Mr. Miller was very clear about these late ballots and that the instructions were coming from the Wayne County Clerk's office.

I was surprised and disappointed at the preponderance of dishonesty, irregularities, and fraudulent tactics at the November 3, 2020 election at the TCF Center.

The above information is true to the best of my information, knowledge, and belief.

Further affiant says not.

                        Robert Cushman
"Meh."

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jhkim

Quote from: consolcwby on November 06, 2020, 11:26:20 PM
As you can see from the bullshit I've taken (if you paid attention), then you should know that ANYONE who questions them or even PROVES THEM WRONG is immediately issued insults, attempts are made to discredit them, and are essentially told to prove themselves by those who wish them harm. "SHUT UP! I'm smarter than you. SHUT UP! I'm faster than you. SHUT UP! I'm going to kill you." If you fall into the psychwarfare trap, then they have you. Which is why I ignore them. They are not worth nor worthy to be replied to. They ARE the Philosophical Zombies. And they will one day regret what they have done. These are the armies, not of flesh and blood, but of the spirit of antichrist. Remember, there are many antichrists. Don't fall into this trap they have set.
Hi, consolcwby. I had some replies for you back in reply #613 and #615, but you haven't replied. I guess you are ignoring me as one of the antichrists. Maybe from your point of view, I am an antichrist - but I am not telling you to shut up, nor am I trying to kill you.

My church is currently holding services online, and everyone is welcome. Services are 10:30AM on Sundays. I'd invite you to come by and decide for yourself.

https://www.uufrc.org/

Perhaps you consider this just more of the psychological warfare, but I don't want to insult or hurt you, and I would genuinely hope we could communicate without such rancor.

Trond

Quote from: Mistwell on November 06, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Oh yeah Project Veritas depends on their reliability...like literally the complete fraud they posted JUST LAST MONTH. Dumbasses.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/politics/project-veritas-ilhan-omar.html

The short of it, Project Veritas was taken in by a totally fraudulent claim in a video in September. Liban Osman, subject of Project Veritas alleged voter fraud story, tells @LydenFOX9 he was offered $10K by Omar Jamal to say he was collecting ballots for Congresswoman @IlhanMN.

So yeah, not a good source to be claiming they are a shining example of truthfulness and credibility.

The "dead people voted in Pennsylvania" stuff is fraudulent claim too:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-election-misinformation-distortions

Finally, the Project Veritas Michigan "postage backdating" claim was debunked the same day it came out (the date on the envelope is irrelevant to whether or not it is counted since it had to physically be there on time to be counted):

https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclair-broadcast-group/sinclair-broadcast-group-spreads-debunked-project-veritas-disinformation

I seriously hate sore losers. I hated it when Democrats did it in 2000 and then in 2004 again, and I hate it now that Republicans are doing it in 2020. Same bullshit, different tribe.

A lot of this has been addressed by Project Veritas and others already.
Are you also of the opinion that the recent riots were coming from the right wing?

EOTB

#696
You can always trust a Lincoln project man to take the 2020 NYT at face value.  "DEBUNKED!!!  The NYT would never lie, just like Philadelphia would never commit the mass election fraud it's been known for, for decades, in this cycle where nothing much at all was at stake"

And soon the LP will learn what their new allies think they've really earned.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aoc-calls-on-lincoln-project-to-take-the-l-and-give-fundraising-to-grassroots-organizers

Enjoy your mirage victory until it evaporates, copperheads.  We don't need you, and no one wants you.  This isn't going to stand, and we can pick up 10 voters for every LP man that goes sniveling home to Nancy Pelosi, just by ditching: stupid foreign wars, an economy based on pushing papers around on desks, and COC trade deals.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that LP's $67 million didn't mostly go to paying the necessary grease to make this fraud happen, including running interference (or more) via their alphabet agency members.
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jeff37923

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on November 06, 2020, 11:50:13 PM
Link for that, Jeff?

Came off of Larry Correia's Facebook feed. I'm looking, but the link seems to have been removed.

Take with a grain of salt then.
"Meh."

Pat

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on November 06, 2020, 10:36:26 PM
What I will say is a good sign for the US is the increased voter participation this time. As The Dictator's Handbook noted, the only real difference between a dictator and a Prime Minister or President is how many people they have to please to stay in power - but that makes all the difference. If I have to please a few Generals and their men I don't have to think much about the public good, if I have to please 100 million people, I do.

So the broader the participation, the better it is for the public good... eventually, anyway.
I don't agree. Plenty of dictators have been voted into power, and dictators and democratically elected representatives both need public support.  If anything, dictators are more sensitive to public opinion, because they know it's unlikely they'll be able to make a graceful exit. If they're overthrown, they'll end up in jail, or dead. That's why dictators hold so desperately to power, and even those who allow some kind of sham voting always make sure they control the means of communication, like seizing control of the media, making dissent illegal, setting up secret police and informer networks so people can't safely express their true beliefs, rewriting the official histories, and so on. They want to control the narrative by controlling what people can learn and say.

That's one of the key differences between democracy and a dictatorship: Democracy provides for a peaceful transition of power. This trait is shared with monarchies, though republics provide for more regular transitions, and these typically happen over a much shorter period of time. But the will of the governed? That's only a feature of democracies insofar as they tend to be more transparent and allow freer discourse.

The problem is public sentiment remains a crude tool and a poor check on the power of the political class. It tends to react based on outrage, which means it only cares about extreme or sensationalized events, and it has a very short attention span. This means it makes decisions based on little information, and can be easily appeased, or fooled by redirecting its rage onto scapegoats. It's oblivious to more subtle abuses, allowing the whole system to be quickly suborned by special interests. The public is a hibernating bear the ruling elite don't want to prod too hard, not a good manager.

Mistwell

Quote from: Trond on November 07, 2020, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on November 06, 2020, 08:58:34 PM
Oh yeah Project Veritas depends on their reliability...like literally the complete fraud they posted JUST LAST MONTH. Dumbasses.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/politics/project-veritas-ilhan-omar.html

The short of it, Project Veritas was taken in by a totally fraudulent claim in a video in September. Liban Osman, subject of Project Veritas alleged voter fraud story, tells @LydenFOX9 he was offered $10K by Omar Jamal to say he was collecting ballots for Congresswoman @IlhanMN.

So yeah, not a good source to be claiming they are a shining example of truthfulness and credibility.

The "dead people voted in Pennsylvania" stuff is fraudulent claim too:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-election-misinformation-distortions

Finally, the Project Veritas Michigan "postage backdating" claim was debunked the same day it came out (the date on the envelope is irrelevant to whether or not it is counted since it had to physically be there on time to be counted):

https://www.mediamatters.org/sinclair-broadcast-group/sinclair-broadcast-group-spreads-debunked-project-veritas-disinformation

I seriously hate sore losers. I hated it when Democrats did it in 2000 and then in 2004 again, and I hate it now that Republicans are doing it in 2020. Same bullshit, different tribe.

A lot of this has been addressed by Project Veritas and others already.
Are you also of the opinion that the recent riots were coming from the right wing?

1. PV isn't credible. Oh they've "addressed" it? Funny, you didn't link to anything. Because we both know their "addressing it" was to be dismissive.
2. No, of course not.

Mistwell

Quote from: EOTB on November 07, 2020, 05:39:55 AM
You can always trust a Lincoln project man to take the 2020 NYT at face value.  "DEBUNKED!!!  The NYT would never lie, just like Philadelphia would never commit the mass election fraud it's been known for, for decades, in this cycle where nothing much at all was at stake"

And soon the LP will learn what their new allies think they've really earned.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/aoc-calls-on-lincoln-project-to-take-the-l-and-give-fundraising-to-grassroots-organizers

Enjoy your mirage victory until it evaporates, copperheads.  We don't need you, and no one wants you.  This isn't going to stand, and we can pick up 10 voters for every LP man that goes sniveling home to Nancy Pelosi, just by ditching: stupid foreign wars, an economy based on pushing papers around on desks, and COC trade deals.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out that LP's $67 million didn't mostly go to paying the necessary grease to make this fraud happen, including running interference (or more) via their alphabet agency members.

What are you going to do when Biden is sworn in as President?

Reality will hit you soon. It's hitting Trump already.

Trond

#701
Quote from: Mistwell on November 07, 2020, 11:56:27 AM

1. PV isn't credible. Oh they've "addressed" it? Funny, you didn't link to anything. Because we both know their "addressing it" was to be dismissive.
2. No, of course not.

Same with your counter-evidence. It's just this guy saying that they were trying to pay him to say stuff. And yet, he said what he said on camera, without them filming it (they filmed themselves). It is one of the weakest "debunks" I have seen. As others mention, when PV get taken to court, they win.

Trond

#702
PV have been taken seriously by people like Eric and Bret Weinstein, and you can find videos where they explain several of the things they have exposed. They are frankly more believable right now than NYT, who have been lying about things happening before my own eyes.

Having said that, in the end I think it's pretty clear that Biden is winning this, fraud or no fraud on either side.

rawma

Congratulations to President-elect Biden!

Ratman_tf

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