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Author Topic: 2020 Election Commentary  (Read 185079 times)

Mercurius

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #645 on: November 06, 2020, 03:04:47 PM »
I sense butthurt.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #646 on: November 06, 2020, 03:05:27 PM »
You have to be rather unhinged to call Biden a marxist. No, Biden will fuck us in the ass by bringing back TPP and opening the floods of outsourcing once more.

All the people who wanted free shit (Berniebros) are in for a rude awakening because we are back to corporatist bullshit if senile Joe wins. They should have voted for Trump, but to them making sure you respect snowflake pronouns is more important than making a living. They may still survive their stupidity if the remaining votes trend Trump. 
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Mercurius

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #647 on: November 06, 2020, 03:09:21 PM »
I recognize a marxist when I see one. My brother is a marxist.

I've watched Biden as a Senator, and his campaigns for President, all my life. Biden is no marxist. Biden is a bog-standard pro-union Democrat. He isn't a social justice warrior and barely tolerates that wing of his party. He isn't a marxist and barely tolerates the AOC's of his party. Biden isn't a barbarian at the gate - he's the same bog standard Democrat that has run for President for your entire adult life.

But it's the internet. And so hyperbole reigns supreme. So we get allegations of the world ending. And in four years when the world has not ended and there is another election, I am sure you and others will again make the claim that the world is about to end if he wins reelection. Despite the fact that nothing much happened for the four prior years with Biden as President which would suggest the world would end.

Yup. It is amazing how unhinged conservatives get with their fear of Marxism, seeing it even in the most corporate/liberal/warhawkish politicians like Biden.

People also don't understand the difference between Marxist ideas as they pertain to economics, and wokist ideology, which is a more recent development. 

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #648 on: November 06, 2020, 03:12:47 PM »
I recognize a marxist when I see one. My brother is a marxist.

I've watched Biden as a Senator, and his campaigns for President, all my life. Biden is no marxist. Biden is a bog-standard pro-union Democrat. He isn't a social justice warrior and barely tolerates that wing of his party. He isn't a marxist and barely tolerates the AOC's of his party. Biden isn't a barbarian at the gate - he's the same bog standard Democrat that has run for President for your entire adult life.

But it's the internet. And so hyperbole reigns supreme. So we get allegations of the world ending. And in four years when the world has not ended and there is another election, I am sure you and others will again make the claim that the world is about to end if he wins reelection. Despite the fact that nothing much happened for the four prior years with Biden as President which would suggest the world would end.

EDIT:  To your second point most people don't get the difference between the two.  My dad's an old school card carrying Trotskyite whereas my cousin is a graduate in Critical Theory.  They both think each other's politics is crap but from my point of view they both look the same just with Class versus Race as the dividing line.

Yup. It is amazing how unhinged conservatives get with their fear of Marxism, seeing it even in the most corporate/liberal/warhawkish politicians like Biden.

People also don't understand the difference between Marxist ideas as they pertain to economics, and wokist ideology, which is a more recent development.

It's not about Biden being a Marxist.  He's pretty clearly your standard Kleptocrat.  The issue is the struggle going on in the Democrat party between the actual Marxists and the Centrists.  See the freakout in the caucus call for an example of that.  We just don't know who's going to be pulling Biden's strings right now because he's pretty clearly not all there anymore.

Honestly a strong move back to Corporatist pillaging and neo-feudalism is not such a great path either.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #649 on: November 06, 2020, 03:13:53 PM »
Marxist, or not he is a paid shill for China.  Lives will be ruined because of Biden which that would had been prevented if they just stuck to Trump.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #650 on: November 06, 2020, 03:20:09 PM »
Marxist, or not he is a paid shill for China.  Lives will be ruined because of Biden which that would had been prevented if they just stuck to Trump.

I agree that Biden isn't a Marxist, but he certainly is a paid crony for China, that's indisputable by anyone who isn't a fucking moron but we've already seen how many there are posting in this thread, so whatever. I doubt Biden even knows his own name half the time at this point, he's just a vessel to install the actual Marxists, aka AOC, Harris, etc.

That said, I find it amusing that no matter how many incidences of fraud are shown, the goalposts move further and further away...sorry, shills, this isn't going to be over anytime soon.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #651 on: November 06, 2020, 03:27:35 PM »
It's not about Biden being a Marxist.  He's pretty clearly your standard Kleptocrat.  The issue is the struggle going on in the Democrat party between the actual Marxists and the Centrists.  See the freakout in the caucus call for an example of that.  We just don't know who's going to be pulling Biden's strings right now because he's pretty clearly not all there anymore.

Honestly a strong move back to Corporatist pillaging and neo-feudalism is not such a great path either.

I think its pretty clear that Biden is an establishment candidate, through and through, which means his strings will be pulled by CEOs and Wall Street and neo-liberalism in general. He's going to serve the same old neo-liberal agenda and give only surface level lip-service to progressives, which means that progressives have to pressure him and continue to work on down-ballot positions.

What you call "actual Marxists" are what others call progressives, and incorporate elements of socialism, but not in the scary Stalinist way Fox drones imagine. Right-wingers confuse and conflate Stalinist USSR with Medicare for All, mainly due to ignorance - because they get their "info" from Fox et al. I'm guessing they think that Western Europe, Canada, Japan, and every other country that has socialized health care are "Marxists."


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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #652 on: November 06, 2020, 03:30:10 PM »
Right.  I would like to not lose my life savings if I develop a serious illness.  We are there with only a few industrialized nations that don’t have a fair medical system.  Nobody with a brain is asking for all that other commie shit.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #653 on: November 06, 2020, 03:30:29 PM »
Some anonymous video from a nobody constitutes proof now? How is that any better than being put on trial on mere allegations of sexual misconduct?  LOL

once again proving y'all just another side of the same hysterical coin.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #654 on: November 06, 2020, 03:33:54 PM »
Some anonymous video from a nobody constitutes proof now? How is that any better than being put on trial on mere allegations of sexual misconduct?  LOL

once again proving y'all just another side of the same hysterical coin.

But he's got a voice disguiser! That makes it legit.

Brad

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #655 on: November 06, 2020, 03:35:59 PM »
So now Michigan GOP chair and chair of the FEC are "anonymous people".

Guess we'll throw those posters into the "fucking moron" crowd as well.

Also, "a 'whistleblower' familiar with the matter overheard a conversation that someone else had that implicates Trump in something!" = 100% PROOF
An actual whistleblower on camera = nothingburger

You clowns are laughably retarded.
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ArrozConLeche

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #656 on: November 06, 2020, 03:45:03 PM »
Gee, Ronna won't even produce evidence. All she has is allegations.

And if you mean Weintraub when you mention the FEC as if it's backing Trump, you've got shit for brains. Better log off and save yourself some more embarrassment.

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Also, "a 'whistleblower' familiar with the matter overheard a conversation that someone else had that implicates Trump in something!" = 100% PROOF
An actual whistleblower on camera = nothingburger

LOL, so because SJW idiots do that, you're going to show your own idiocy by doing the same. Oh wow, that makes total sense!
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #657 on: November 06, 2020, 03:47:02 PM »
But it is an INSIDER. It says so. And best of all, it is Project Veritas. How legit can you get?

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #658 on: November 06, 2020, 04:00:36 PM »
sorry, shills, this isn't going to be over anytime soon.
Thank goodness for that; way too many comedies die off too quickly.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #659 on: November 06, 2020, 04:02:32 PM »
Marxist, or not he is a paid shill for China.  Lives will be ruined because of Biden which that would had been prevented if they just stuck to Trump.

I agree that Biden isn't a Marxist, but he certainly is a paid crony for China, that's indisputable by anyone who isn't a fucking moron but we've already seen how many there are posting in this thread, so whatever. I doubt Biden even knows his own name half the time at this point, he's just a vessel to install the actual Marxists, aka AOC, Harris, etc.

That said, I find it amusing that no matter how many incidences of fraud are shown, the goalposts move further and further away...sorry, shills, this isn't going to be over anytime soon.

I have the same goalpost I have always had.

Your evidence of fraud must exceed the number of votes you'd need to change the election result.

The sum total of the actual evidence, as opposed to shady anonymous youtube videos from obviously biased sources wearing tinfoil hats with no hard evidence but lots of click-begging, is significantly less than the vote is turning out to be, across so many states.

That's it. That's the line. Show me not fraud, but fraud which amounts to a difference in the election. The rest is just "shit we should fix prior to any future elections" and not in fact a reason to toss out the legit votes which indicate Biden did win.