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ArrozConLeche

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #555 on: November 05, 2020, 11:35:35 AM »
1. The polls lied.

2. Trump won. The Democrats' fraud is obvious.

Bleat to the contrary all you like.

If you say it enough times and really wish it to become true, it'll become true. Abracadabra.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #556 on: November 05, 2020, 12:26:16 PM »
I'd hope that people on both sides can agree that what's happening right now is some 3rd world bullshit.  GOP had to sue to allow poll WATCHERS into polling station in PA which the Supreme Court in PA just overturned.  This is just to allow GOP watchers to join the DNC watchers inside the polling stations.  Stuff like closing a polling station and sending Repubs home then secretly opening and counting boxes of votes that are 100% Biden (no corresponding down ballot votes!).

doesn't matter who wins this is a VERY bad look.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #557 on: November 05, 2020, 12:32:16 PM »
I can't wait until Kanye's people speak out about the obvious efforts to thwart his presidential run.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #558 on: November 05, 2020, 12:33:09 PM »
I'd hope that people on both sides can agree that what's happening right now is some 3rd world bullshit.  GOP had to sue to allow poll WATCHERS into polling station in PA which the Supreme Court in PA just overturned.  This is just to allow GOP watchers to join the DNC watchers inside the polling stations.  Stuff like closing a polling station and sending Repubs home then secretly opening and counting boxes of votes that are 100% Biden (no corresponding down ballot votes!).

doesn't matter who wins this is a VERY bad look.
Mainstream media won't talk about it and/or (in the 'fair and unbias' BBC's case) frame it as Trump being irrational and conspiratorial, the Usual Suspects will pitch it as "tiny handed Orange Man is just a sore loser" at best and "literally ANYTHING can and must be done to oppose a literal fascist nazi dictator getting into the White House" at worst.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #559 on: November 05, 2020, 12:49:19 PM »
There is actually a lot from the major news outlets if you google it.

Here is one account from a local news source: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/04/poll-challengers-converge-detroit-amid-close-election-results/6161484002/

Unless someone has a reliable account with proof that there were more Demo poll watchers than Republican watchers, I'm calling bullshit. 

If the police is helping enforce fraud, maybe you guys can join the SJW call to defund the police. *snicker*

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #560 on: November 05, 2020, 01:07:09 PM »
Disappointing? You expected better? Here? Many of the posters here seem to get their reality straight out of heavily biased YouTube videos and don't question it. Conspiracy theories are held as truth and mainstream views are taken as being conspiracies. Don't be disappointed, learn to view it as the twisted entertainment it is once you realize nothing here is real.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #561 on: November 05, 2020, 01:19:25 PM »
Y'all don't give any weight to stories of "racism" and other bullshit, but you're willing to believe this based on some crank with a youtube account.  ::)

You're just another side of the same coin with SJWs. It's dissappointing as hell.
Disappointing? You expected better? Here? Many of the posters here seem to get their reality straight out of heavily biased YouTube videos and don't question it. Conspiracy theories are held as truth and mainstream views are taken as being conspiracies. Don't be disappointed, learn to view it as the twisted entertainment it is once you realize nothing here is real.

I get my reality based on my own experiences, and my own experience is that mainstream views lie about things I know, sometimes from direct personal experience (having being involved with the groups being discussed, such as GamerGate), to be false. Even back when I was active in the progressive side and supported BLM, I was one of the people who parroted the "hands up, don't shoot" line, which later was confirmed to be a lie. And back during the Iraq War, the lie was about "Weapons of Mass Destruction". So you better believe I think that the mainstream media lies all the time. Because they demonstrably do.

I don't believe that mainstream media is full of shit because alternative media youtube channels told me that the MSM lies. I watch alternative media youtube channels because I figured out the MSM lies before I started watching them.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #562 on: November 05, 2020, 01:42:48 PM »
I don't believe that mainstream media is full of shit because alternative media youtube channels told me that the MSM lies. I watch alternative media youtube channels because I figured out the MSM lies before I started watching them.

This.

Keep in mind that the Alt Media is under far stricter scrutiny, and provides far more sources (none of which are circular) than the MSM.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #563 on: November 05, 2020, 01:57:27 PM »
You can watch every step of this unfold, with explanations as it goes, here: https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2020-election-results-coverage/

No votes "magically" appeared over night. No vote batch went "100%" for anyone.

There were three types of votes being counted: 1) mailed votes, 2) Drop-Off votes, and 3) In-Person votes. In these three, there were variations, like "early in-person vote" vs "Election day in-person vote" or even "Early drop-off vote" vs "election-day drop-off vote". Because of the nature of the campaigns, in general Democrats tended to vote early, and Republicans tended to vote on election day.

So when counting, if the batch was "early" with either drop-off or mail-in, it tended to go Biden. And if the vote was "election-day" with either drop-off or in-person, it tended to go Trump.

Then of course you have the variation on geography. Votes in Philadelphia go very strong Biden, while votes in rural areas go very strong Trump. So WHERE the votes came from in a particular batch is important to what the vote is likely to be.

So then you come to any moment in time where you think some "magical batch of mystery votes" is being counted. If the batch is both 1) from an urban location like Philadelphia, and 2) a batch of early mail-in or early drop-off votes, it's going to skew extremely hard to Biden. On the other handm if the batch is both 1) from a rural location, and 2) a batch of election-day drop-off or in-person votes, it's going to skew extremely hard for Trump.

Ther blog covers just about every batch of new counts, in all the states people are watching. Not one has been particularly remarkable in the count. They predict what it will be and generally speaking it's coming in roughly close to their prediction. Which isn't magic, this is a simple formula which is baring out over the election in all the states.

If if you were not watching as it happened, if you just got blips here and there, or partisan spins on what was happening, I can see how people would think this is all some big nefarious fraud. But it's not. It's actually quite boring, and nothing nefarious is going on other than some minor human error here and there. It's just a lot of tired poll workers counting every ballot coming in. There are MANY Republicans involved in every poll counting facility in all the states in question, even in urban counting districts. It's mandated by law that you have a minimum of one member of each party (and then usually two independents) present for any issues. They're not reporting any major issues in the count.

As for the number of people voting, it's up for both Republicans and Democrats and not just one. It's up dramatically, for both parties. Trump received the most number of votes of any Republican, ever in the history of the nation. Biden received the most number of votes of any Democrat, ever in the history of the nation. Voting, across the board, is way up. This should come as no surprise to anyone, because it's SUPER EASY TO VOTE THIS TIME. Because in many states EVERY registered voter got a mail-in ballot which could also usually be dropped off in advance of election day. That's atypical. It gives people a lot more time to get their ballot in and lot more locations to get their ballot in and fewer restrictions on the day of the week or the time of the day they drop their ballot off. This level of flexibility increases the turn-out dramatically. And it's increasing the turnout for both major parties and not just one.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #564 on: November 05, 2020, 03:38:38 PM »
Disappointing? You expected better? Here? Many of the posters here seem to get their reality straight out of heavily biased YouTube videos and don't question it. Conspiracy theories are held as truth and mainstream views are taken as being conspiracies. Don't be disappointed, learn to view it as the twisted entertainment it is once you realize nothing here is real.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #565 on: November 05, 2020, 03:52:41 PM »
Nevada is going into lawsuit.


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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #566 on: November 05, 2020, 04:27:47 PM »
Trump encouraging voter fraud:


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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #567 on: November 05, 2020, 04:29:12 PM »
Considering the Coof, increased mail in voting in places that weren't experienced in handling it, and how tight this election is, I'm not shocked it's taking multiple days to finish. Having said that...

I seriously doubt the counts would have stopped if Biden's lead were solid.
I wouldn't be shocked if the Dems were pulling some shenanigans. I don't think the Repubs are above it either, but that's where we're at right now.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #568 on: November 05, 2020, 04:31:17 PM »
Trump encouraging voter fraud:



Is it voter fraud if they haven't counted your ballot yet?
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #569 on: November 05, 2020, 04:37:12 PM »
Even though I do not agree with some of the posters here, it is good to see that they are still allowed to have their opinion heard.
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