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Author Topic: 2020 Election Commentary  (Read 185232 times)

Trond

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #540 on: November 05, 2020, 09:47:02 AM »
Honestly I think Biden/Harris is going to win this now, even if some states are recounting. Trump got an impressive amount of votes for someone in charge during an election year of absolute disaster though. It should have been a Democrat landslide, as predicted by the polls, but that never happened.

By all means recount and check for fraud, but being part of a democracy means not going to extremes when the opposition wins. That’s what they do in places like Afghanistan and why those places are permanently unstable. If things are going the way they seem I think it’s soon time to go back to being those independent-minded Republicans, who keep an eye on those in power and tell them to mind their own business.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #541 on: November 05, 2020, 10:05:20 AM »
Honestly I think Biden/Harris is going to win this now, even if some states are recounting. Trump got an impressive amount of votes for someone in charge during an election year of absolute disaster though. It should have been a Democrat landslide, as predicted by the polls, but that never happened.

By all means recount and check for fraud, but being part of a democracy means not going to extremes when the opposition wins. That’s what they do in places like Afghanistan and why those places are permanently unstable. If things are going the way they seem I think it’s soon time to go back to being those independent-minded Republicans, who keep an eye on those in power and tell them to mind their own business.
  In a republic however, you impeach your political opposition as well as surveilling them and creating all sorts of juicy stories about hooker pee.  So I suspect this will get interesting.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #542 on: November 05, 2020, 10:08:20 AM »
It is also, of course, known that Republicans are incapable of cheating as their nature is so angelic as to make that constitutionally impossible. Give me a fucking break. You're all more or less the same. 

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #543 on: November 05, 2020, 10:10:57 AM »
It is also, of course, known that Republicans are incapable of cheating as their nature is so angelic as to make that constitutionally impossible. Give me a fucking break. You're all more or less the same.
  I suppose you should have quoted what I said.  Or at least have read it.

Trond

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #544 on: November 05, 2020, 10:12:06 AM »
It is also, of course, known that Republicans are incapable of cheating as their nature is so angelic as to make that constitutionally impossible. Give me a fucking break. You're all more or less the same.

We are? Us? No!! It's them others. THEM OTHERS!!!

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #545 on: November 05, 2020, 10:23:23 AM »
It is also, of course, known that Republicans are incapable of cheating as their nature is so angelic as to make that constitutionally impossible. Give me a fucking break. You're all more or less the same.
Straw man which no one said. What many have said is voter ID across the board and voting on election day for most would help with fraud. Whoever said Congress, even when controlled by Republicans, couldn't or wouldn't do anything to make fraud less likely was, of course correct.

ArrozConLeche

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #546 on: November 05, 2020, 10:30:52 AM »
Why aren't there any calls to contest the states that Trump won? If people cared about the integrity of the elections in any real way, they'd be questioning everything.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #547 on: November 05, 2020, 10:32:45 AM »
Honestly I think Biden/Harris is going to win this now, even if some states are recounting. Trump got an impressive amount of votes for someone in charge during an election year of absolute disaster though. It should have been a Democrat landslide, as predicted by the polls, but that never happened.

By all means recount and check for fraud, but being part of a democracy means not going to extremes when the opposition wins. That’s what they do in places like Afghanistan and why those places are permanently unstable. If things are going the way they seem I think it’s soon time to go back to being those independent-minded Republicans, who keep an eye on those in power and tell them to mind their own business.
Mmm. May I recommend this essay? https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=21724

As I've noted, this does not exactly cover the Dems in glory. They threw everything in against Orange Man Bad -- media, vote fuckery, impeachment, etc -- and still almost lost with their empty shell/political whore duo. Worse, they did not take the Senate, and they barely held the House. Their ability to screw with things is not near as unlimited as it was in 2008.

Go ahead, send out those executive orders. Expect to see them challenged in court, just as the Dems challenged Trump's.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #548 on: November 05, 2020, 10:51:27 AM »
If things are going the way they seem I think it’s soon time to go back to being those independent-minded Republicans, who keep an eye on those in power and tell them to mind their own business.
Gridlock where the Senate and Courts block any Biden/Harris excesses doesn't sound too bad, especially national WuFlu lockdown, mass amnesty, etc.

For things completely unrelated to the Presidency, which seem insane to me, I noticed
* Oregon legalized all drugs (isn't it gov who pays for drug addict rehabilitation)
* Florida passed $15 minimum wage which should come in a few years in steps. Do the old people on Social Security think their IHOP server is worth $15/hr? Hi2u fast food robots.
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Ghostmaker

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #549 on: November 05, 2020, 11:22:08 AM »
Gridlock where the Senate and Courts block any Biden/Harris excesses doesn't sound too bad, especially national WuFlu lockdown, mass amnesty, etc.

For things completely unrelated to the Presidency, which seem insane to me, I noticed
* Oregon legalized all drugs (isn't it gov who pays for drug addict rehabilitation)
* Florida passed $15 minimum wage which should come in a few years in steps. Do the old people on Social Security think their IHOP server is worth $15/hr? Hi2u fast food robots.
The ugly fact is that despite expending immense resources, and dealing considerable damage to civil liberties, we haven't exactly done well in the 'war on drugs' (the joke about drugs winning the war applies here). I share your distaste, but the current paradigm isn't working at all. That being said, I would also vote for 'no Narcan for frequent ODers'. Evolution in action, baby.

Not sure why the hell Florida passed that minimum wage law, though. Some people just want to believe in miracles, I guess.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #550 on: November 05, 2020, 11:25:50 AM »
Not sure why the hell Florida passed that minimum wage law, though. Some people just want to believe in miracles, I guess.
One factor was all of the tourism industry employees (many of which are furloughed or outright laid off d/t COVID). Of course, the ripple effects of that move are not well considered, but then, they rarely are.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #551 on: November 05, 2020, 11:26:17 AM »
OK by me if they vote themselves out of a job during a pandemic downturn no less. Robots are cool as hell and they don't give you no attitude. 

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #552 on: November 05, 2020, 11:31:21 AM »
1. The polls lied.

2. Trump won. The Democrats' fraud is obvious.

Bleat to the contrary all you like.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #553 on: November 05, 2020, 11:32:03 AM »
Robots are cool as hell and they don't give you no attitude.
I've worked with some robots that definitely gave attitude.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #554 on: November 05, 2020, 11:34:57 AM »
1. The polls lied.

2. Trump won. The Democrats' fraud is obvious.

Bleat to the contrary all you like.
As an American, my grasp of geography may be a little shaky, but I was always that the big river that runs through the middle of the USA was the Mississippi...but right now it's looking more like d'Nile. ;)