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2020 Election Commentary

Started by deadDMwalking, July 17, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

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ArrozConLeche

ya'all sounding like tangency with all the handwringing and bullshit. it aint over till its over

Ratman_tf

Quote from: rawma on November 04, 2020, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 04, 2020, 10:33:30 AMAlso, it seems there are more votes cast in Wisconsin than registered voters.

Debunked by Polifact and Snopes.

I dunno about Politifact, but I wouldn't trust Snopes if they said water was wet.
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Mistwell

Looks like Democratic Presidency and VP (by a nose), Republican Senate (one member shift plus new VP), Democratic House (though Democrats lost some seats and Republicans gained some seats).
That's a very mixed finish. It means one of the these two things can happen in terms of passing actual meaningful legislation going forward for the next couple years: 1) compromise, or 2) stalemate.

Brad

Quote from: rawma on November 04, 2020, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on November 04, 2020, 10:33:30 AMAlso, it seems there are more votes cast in Wisconsin than registered voters.

Debunked by Polifact and Snopes. Someone was comparing 2020 vote totals to 2018 registration; the total registered before the 2020 election was higher than the votes, and Wisconsin allows registration at the polling place.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/tweets/no-wisconsin-doesnt-have-more-ballots-cast-registe/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wisconsin-more-votes-than-voters/

I couldn't figure out what the Louder with Crowder claim was; something about votes being carried in in coolers? Not sure how they concluded that the coolers contained votes... How dare election workers bring their own food during a pandemic, I guess. I expect it is up to the party observers of the counting to look for bad stuff, in accordance with Michigan law, rather than randos with video cameras lurking by the doors and windows.

Even using the "reported" numbers, that's still like a 90% turnout...which is fucking ludicrous if you know anything about elections.

Quote from: Mistwell on November 04, 2020, 05:01:26 PM
Looks like Democratic Presidency and VP (by a nose), Republican Senate (one member shift plus new VP), Democratic House (though Democrats lost some seats and Republicans gained some seats).
That's a very mixed finish. It means one of the these two things can happen in terms of passing actual meaningful legislation going forward for the next couple years: 1) compromise, or 2) stalemate.

Nahh, Trump will win, it's just gonna take a long time...
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Mistwell

Quote from: Brad on November 04, 2020, 05:02:31 PM
Nahh, Trump will win, it's just gonna take a long time...

Your inability to process reality notwithstanding, my statement stands.

Brad

Quote from: Mistwell on November 04, 2020, 05:15:07 PMYour inability to process reality notwithstanding, my statement stands.

Reality: Lots of litigation, voter fraud uncovered, Trump wins
Not reality: fucktards on a roleplaying game messageboard professing insider knowledge of politics based on crap they saw on Reddit
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Mistwell

Quote from: Brad on November 04, 2020, 05:18:35 PM
Reality: Lots of litigation, voter fraud uncovered, Trump wins
Not reality: fucktards on a roleplaying game messageboard professing insider knowledge of politics based on crap they saw on Reddit

You are in denial. It's Ok. You will get through the stages of grief eventually. We're here for you.

I don't read reddit, and I have a degree in political science, for what that is worth. Which is nothing because you're not here for a conversation. You're here to try and resist moving on from your stage of grief. 

Brad

Quote from: Mistwell on November 04, 2020, 05:21:37 PMYou are in denial. It's Ok. You will get through the stages of grief eventually. We're here for you.

I don't read reddit, and I have a degree in political science, for what that is worth. Which is nothing because you're not here for a conversation. You're here to try and resist moving on from your stage of grief.

Denial about what? MASSIVE voter fraud? STFU, retard. This is just 100% blatant fraud and anyone who pulls their head out of their ass could easily see it. But I guess CCP shills like yourself are reveling in Biden fucking the USA over even more, so whatever.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

myleftnut

Quote from: Brad on November 04, 2020, 05:22:16 PM
Denial about what? MASSIVE voter fraud? STFU, retard.

How do you envision this fraud going down?

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HappyDaze

Quote from: Brad on November 04, 2020, 05:18:35 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on November 04, 2020, 05:15:07 PMYour inability to process reality notwithstanding, my statement stands.

Reality: Lots of litigation, voter fraud uncovered, Trump wins
Not reality: fucktards on a roleplaying game messageboard professing insider knowledge of politics based on crap they saw on Reddit
So we should listen to you, one of the fucktards, when you tell us that what the fucktards say is not reality?

Hawkwing7423

Quote from: myleftnut on November 04, 2020, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: Brad on November 04, 2020, 05:22:16 PM
Denial about what? MASSIVE voter fraud? STFU, retard.

How do you envision this fraud going down?
No doubt you don't believe any of it but why did the swing states "stop counting" in the middle of the night? And magically after that, in the wee hours and beyond, every Trump lead evaporated. As Stalin said, it's who counts the ballots.

Why has Trump led Georgia and NC for all this time with 99% in and the MSM is not calling it? Why aren't they calling Alaska for Trump?

quoting another forum I use:
Wisconsin voter turnout by year:

2000 - 67.01%
2004 - 73.24%
2008 - 69.20%
2012 - 70.14%
2016 - 67.34%
2020 - 89.25%

yeah, right - totally believable!

Hawkwing7423

Quote from: Cloyer Bulse on November 04, 2020, 02:47:14 PM
The most pervasive voter fraud I've every seen, and they're doing it openly. First and last time I ever vote. This is why I don't believe that liberal democracy can work.

The sense that I get is that the republic is dead since the system has been so badly besmirched and turned into a total mockery. Voting no longer matters one way or the other, it's just a matter of who is strong enough to take control.

I have voted for 25 years and I'm done, unless the courts force them to look real carefully at the swing state shenanigans.
It really is people voting themselves money until the whole thing goes belly up.

Mistwell

#508
This is the hill you need to climb right now, as this is where it's currently heading:

Georgia (Electoral Votes: 16): Toss-Up to slightly leans Biden
Pennsylvania (20): Leans Biden
Arizona (11): Likely Biden
Nevada (6): Likely Biden
Wisconsin (10): Apparent Winner Biden
Michigan (16): Apparent Winner Biden

You'd need to prove fraud in not just one or two locations, but MANY locations in MANY states. And it would have to be enough fraud to flip the vote, not just a few hundred.

The reason votes moved Biden overnight is because the votes that remained outstanding to be counted were in mostly blue urban areas because that's where the population is the most dense. Which, if you had been paying attention last night, you'd have known before you went to bed. Because THEY ALL TOLD US THAT'S WHERE THE REMAINING VOTES TO BE COUNTED WERE LOCATED.

You're in denial. Trump lost.

myleftnut

I'm no partisan.  Election fraud is of course possible but needs to be proven.  So far it looks like Trump is finished.  I was really annoyed when the SJW crowd denied a fair election in 2016.  It looks like the Trump crowd is poised to do the same now.  Very ironic.