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Author Topic: 2020 Election Commentary  (Read 185290 times)

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #360 on: October 18, 2020, 11:45:08 PM »
I'm not making any claim about Hunter Biden, just that The Babylon Bee article is satire. (And apologies if I'm misusing satire vs parody - the point is that it's humorous false content.)
There really isn't anything to get.
The people without TDS see Trump trolling the left, again.
The people with TDS think Trump really believes it, and tweeted it because Trump is ignorant and stupid.

As much as you want him to be ignorant and stupid, Trump is neither. He's an arrogant asshole and he lives in the heads of Elitist idiots.
It's big reason why mainstream Americans are supporting him. You know, all the people that are tired of the condescension, the name-calling, and the social engineering designed to eradicate the traditions and values they hold.
From my perspective, being an Internet troll isn't particularly better than being ignorant and stupid.

Personally, I've voted against him, but I don't think he's literally Hitler. In some ways, he's been better than George W. Bush -- notably in not getting us into new foreign wars. But his Twitter stream frequently makes me feel embarrassed as an American. I don't care if he's trolling or not - it's bad either way.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #361 on: October 19, 2020, 12:40:11 AM »
The reason Trump tweeted the Babylon Bee story is because the NY Post story was being shut down by Our Lords & Masters in Silicon Valley.

However, as the Babylon Bee story satirized the Twitter response to the NY Post, it gave Trump a way to get people informed about the situation, especially as he knows the TDS crowd would boost the signal...and thus effectively boost the alarm that Twitter was in the back pocket of Biden and censoring an important story.

Here's the fun part. This is what was waiting for everyone at the Babylon Bee:
https://babylonbee.com/news/you-should-absolutely-not-read-the-disgusting-totally-false-story-about-joe-bidens-son-that-were-linking-in-this-article

And this one too.
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-shares-babylon-bee-article-thousands-accept-jesus-into-their-hearts

I'm not a big believer in Trump's 4D chess, but this was a sharp maneuver to evade social media censors.

Also, it drove tremendous traffic to the Babylon Bee which somehow manages to be Christian AND funny. It's got that same edge as Mad magazine and the Onion, and isn't afraid to make jokes about both Trump and Christians.

And humor is dangerous.

It's especially dangerous when people start wondering why would the Orange Monster ever link to a site that makes fun of him regularly?


But his Twitter stream frequently makes me feel embarrassed as an American.

Who are you kidding? Leftists aren't Americans.

2020 was the year your masks fell off.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #362 on: October 19, 2020, 01:08:13 AM »
Wait your voting against Trump who made peace deal and never went to war because of his tweets?  THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU JHKIM?  Are you fucking that shallow?

Jhkim: "Yeah I like the fact Trump never went to war and TRIED to pull troops out of the middle east, but he is so rude...  Those tweets are horrible.  I might as well send more young people off to die because at least I get to look good."

That is what you sound like right now jhkim.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #363 on: October 19, 2020, 01:28:53 AM »
Personally, I've voted against him, but I don't think he's literally Hitler. In some ways, he's been better than George W. Bush -- notably in not getting us into new foreign wars. But his Twitter stream frequently makes me feel embarrassed as an American. I don't care if he's trolling or not - it's bad either way.

I'm embarassed by the Democrats, Biden and Harris. Biden is a senile codger who is so out of touch, he thought "If you don't vote for me, you're not black!" would be an appropriate thing to say, joke or not.
And Harris is a slimeball. She accused Biden of racism and sexism and then put her knives away when offered to be his Veep.

This is the best the Democrat party could muster to run aqainst Trump. It's pathetic.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #364 on: October 19, 2020, 02:09:42 AM »
Wait your voting against Trump who made peace deal and never went to war because of his tweets?  THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU JHKIM?  Are you fucking that shallow?

Jhkim: "Yeah I like the fact Trump never went to war and TRIED to pull troops out of the middle east, but he is so rude...  Those tweets are horrible.  I might as well send more young people off to die because at least I get to look good."

That is what you sound like right now jhkim.
Please calm the fuck down, Snowman0147.

I said that I didn't vote for him, and I said that I disliked his tweets. That doesn't mean that I didn't vote for him *because* of his tweets. His tweets were the topic under discussion.

Generally speaking, I'm a strong social liberal, a pro-individual-rights federalist, a pro-nuclear environmentalist, an economic moderate, and a mostly non-military-interventionist in foreign affairs. That generally puts me in the Democrat camp, even though there are issues I disagree with them on.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #365 on: October 19, 2020, 02:27:00 AM »
No it doesn't.  That sounds like your mostly Republican in these days and that is how much the Democrats went nuts.

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« Reply #366 on: October 19, 2020, 03:38:39 AM »
I'm embarassed by the Democrats, Biden and Harris.

Why? It's not like they've hidden who and what they are.

There is no Biden. He's the placeholder for Harris and she's the placeholder for those pulling the strings to ensure a socialist breakdown of America.

And more importantly, that's what Biden/Harris voters want. They're not "innocent and confused"! They're not "fellow citizens with different ideas". They want Biden and Harris because they know both are malleable and not going to stand in the way of the real plan. Of course, the Biden/Harris sheeple have no clue that the socialism they're clamoring for isn't utopia. As the 20th century showed us with 100 million corpses, the reality is quite the opposite.   

There is no "the Democrats" anymore. This isn't the party of FDR or JFK or even Bill Clinton. They are the Socialist Party now, loud and proud, and identity politics is their weapon of choice because it works so well.

I'm not joking about 2020 as the year the masks have fallen off.

We are staring into the face of communist oblivion, whether its grandpa Biden, laffy laugh Harris, the unhinged violence of Burn Loot Murder or the oh-so-moderate sounding words of Bay Area limousine liberals.

This election isn't some white glove university debate where the winner gets to choose the tea. The "Democrats" are here to crumble America. Don't think so? Why would you NOT crumble a nation that's 100% racist, sexist, homophobic and evil? In fact, it's their moral duty!

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #367 on: October 19, 2020, 04:28:39 AM »
No it doesn't.  That sounds like your mostly Republican in these days and that is how much the Democrats went nuts.
I disagree, and I'm fine to debate it if you accept that it's not about the tweets (though they certainly don't help).

As far as going nuts, I think the public on both sides of the political spectrum have gone into insane levels of partisanship - where the other side are demons set upon destruction and hatred. I mostly blame social media for this one, but politicians and news media (left-leaning and right-leaning) are part of it as well.

The actual political differences aren't nearly the craziness that are described, though. I saw no signs of gulags or killing fields after eight years of Obama's presidency. I thought he was pretty moderate. Trump also hasn't been as extreme as he's portrayed, but there's still been plenty of negatives. Not getting into major wars was good, but his actions with Syria, Yemen, Iran, and Afghanistan have done little to improve the situation - though to be fair, all our recent presidents have made a hash of the Middle East. He's also pissed off essentially all of our traditional allies. He's been openly anti-environmental, promoting frickin coal while doing nothing about nuclear power.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #368 on: October 19, 2020, 05:39:32 AM »
Who are you kidding? Leftists aren't Americans.

2020 was the year your masks fell off.
So in 2020, the ones not wearing masks are un-American Leftists? Well, that explains some things...

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #369 on: October 19, 2020, 06:29:17 AM »
I'm embarassed by the Democrats, Biden and Harris. Biden is a senile codger who is so out of touch, he thought "If you don't vote for me, you're not black!" would be an appropriate thing to say, joke or not.
And Harris is a slimeball. She accused Biden of racism and sexism and then put her knives away when offered to be his Veep.

This is the best the Democrat party could muster to run aqainst Trump. It's pathetic.

In the past, I was embarrassed for the democrats.  You know, the same way you feel embarrassment for anyone saying something so stupid that everyone in the room has to avert their eyes, but the speaker can't even pick up on that.  Now, it's more like what you ended with.  The left is no longer American in any meaningful sense of the word.  They deserve mockery and shunning and are rapidly moving into territory of a more serious nature in the question of what they deserve.  The remaining normal people voting Democrat are pitiful. 

My favorite line this election from a classical liberal who wasn't exactly red-pilled but close enough for this election:  "I will never forgive the Democrats for making me vote for Trump."  :)

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #370 on: October 19, 2020, 09:43:45 AM »
Generally speaking, I'm a strong social liberal, a pro-individual-rights federalist, a pro-nuclear environmentalist, an economic moderate, and a mostly non-military-interventionist in foreign affairs. That generally puts me in the Democrat camp, even though there are issues I disagree with them on.

This is like the exact opposite of the current Democrat party...are you fucking dense?
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #371 on: October 19, 2020, 10:15:37 AM »
Generally speaking, I'm a strong social liberal, a pro-individual-rights federalist, a pro-nuclear environmentalist, an economic moderate, and a mostly non-military-interventionist in foreign affairs. That generally puts me in the Democrat camp, even though there are issues I disagree with them on.

This is like the exact opposite of the current Democrat party...are you fucking dense?
I have to admit, I did a double-take as well. Particularly in regards to individual rights and nuclear power.

We've seen the contempt the left has for not just the 2nd Amendment, but the First as well.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #372 on: October 19, 2020, 10:42:26 AM »
Also, it drove tremendous traffic to the Babylon Bee which somehow manages to be Christian AND funny. It's got that same edge as Mad magazine and the Onion, and isn't afraid to make jokes about both Trump and Christians.

Probably the best one of theirs I saw recently:  https://babylonbee.com/news/close-call-this-christian-radio-dj-accidentally-played-the-same-song-for-3-weeks-straight-but-luckily-no-one-noticed

Just reminds me so much of the music I used to hear at my buddy's Unitarian church back in the 90's.

JHKim is totally a Republican.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #373 on: October 19, 2020, 10:50:34 AM »
This is like the exact opposite of the current Democrat party...are you fucking dense?

Quote from: The Democratic Party Platform, pg. 51, 2020
...our technology-neutral approach is inclusive of all zero-carbon technologies, including hydroelectric power, geothermal, existing and advanced nuclear, and carbon capture and storage.

Quote from:  pg 90, 2020
...it’s past time, however, to rebalance our tools,engagement, and relationships in the Middle East away from military intervention—leading with pragmatic diplomacy to lay the groundwork for a more peaceful, stable, and free region.

Or maybe you're so far up your own media you've lost all ability to see nuance? Stop believing your own boogeyman stories and start actually being Conservative.

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« Reply #374 on: October 19, 2020, 02:03:16 PM »
Or maybe you're so far up your own media you've lost all ability to see nuance? Stop believing your own boogeyman stories and start actually being Conservative.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/368581-california-approves-closure-of-last-nuclear-power-plant

LOL

Maybe get a fucking clue..?
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