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Author Topic: 2020 Election Commentary  (Read 8842 times)

sureshot

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #210 on: September 18, 2020, 02:14:23 PM »
So once again if a poster disagrees with another it’s “ Triablism” .


Is what it’s come when having a discussion. Agree with the poster or one is “insert word” ist or a victim of “insert word” ism.
Mi can do too when a discussion is not going my way lol 😂.




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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #211 on: September 18, 2020, 02:29:36 PM »
So once again if a poster disagrees with another it’s “ Triablism” .
Nope. When people don't address any of the arguments I've made, and instead make false claims about what I believe, or make short responses that seem to have nothing to do with what I said, in today's climate the reasonable assumption is it's an example of tribalism. Tribalism is about taking sides, and characteristics include looking for superficial signs that someone is an enemy, then ascribing them a mass of characteristics and beliefs that have been assigned to that enemy, and then responding to those characteristics in a rote way, instead of addressing what was actually said. Your post, Brad's, and Jeff's all seem to be display those characteristics. There's nothing in those posts to address except the assumptions you're making, because there's no content. Ghostmaker by contrast appears to be reading things I never said into what I actually said, but seems to be trying to carry on a real discussion.

Note I'd prefer to address an actual argument, counterpoint, or something else that we can at least talk about.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #212 on: September 18, 2020, 02:45:08 PM »
Nope. When people don't address any of the arguments I've made, and instead make false claims about what I believe, or make short responses that seem to have nothing to do with what I said, in today's climate the reasonable assumption is it's an example of tribalism. Tribalism is about taking sides, and characteristics include looking for superficial signs that someone is an enemy, then ascribing them a mass of characteristics and beliefs that have been assigned to that enemy, and then responding to those characteristics in a rote way, instead of addressing what was actually said. Your post, Brad's, and Jeff's all seem to be display those characteristics. There's nothing in those posts to address except the assumptions you're making, because there's no content. Ghostmaker by contrast appears to be reading things I never said into what I actually said, but seems to be trying to carry on a real discussion.

Note I'd prefer to address an actual argument, counterpoint, or something else that we can at least talk about.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #213 on: September 18, 2020, 02:46:58 PM »
So once again if a poster disagrees with another it’s “ Triablism” .
Nope. When people don't address any of the arguments I've made, and instead make false claims about what I believe, or make short responses that seem to have nothing to do with what I said, in today's climate the reasonable assumption is it's an example of tribalism. Tribalism is about taking sides, and characteristics include looking for superficial signs that someone is an enemy, then ascribing them a mass of characteristics and beliefs that have been assigned to that enemy, and then responding to those characteristics in a rote way, instead of addressing what was actually said. Your post, Brad's, and Jeff's all seem to be display those characteristics. There's nothing in those posts to address except the assumptions you're making, because there's no content. Ghostmaker by contrast appears to be reading things I never said into what I actually said, but seems to be trying to carry on a real discussion.

Note I'd prefer to address an actual argument, counterpoint, or something else that we can at least talk about.


So, you are admitting to engaging in tribalism?

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #214 on: September 18, 2020, 08:07:30 PM »
I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt Pat except when an discussion does not go your way you toss out everyone is being Tribalistic".


To myself at least you don't really like push-back during a discussion. You want to hear what you want to hear and nothing else. With everyone at fault or in error.


It comes off wanting an echo chamber and not wanting to engage.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #215 on: September 18, 2020, 09:23:02 PM »
So, Ruth Bader-Ginsberg has died.


And you thought this election was going to be insane before.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #216 on: September 19, 2020, 12:56:40 AM »
So, Ruth Bader-Ginsberg has died.


And you thought this election was going to be insane before.


My favorite reaction so far.


https://twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1307107507131875330


I'm like, bitch, have you looked out a window lately?


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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #217 on: September 19, 2020, 01:15:01 PM »
I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt Pat except when an discussion does not go your way you toss out everyone is being Tribalistic".


To myself at least you don't really like push-back during a discussion. You want to hear what you want to hear and nothing else. With everyone at fault or in error.


It comes off wanting an echo chamber and not wanting to engage.
I've mentioned tribalism in exactly two discussions, and this time it only came up because Brad butted into the discussion with a dismissive and contentless reference to the earlier thread, so I asked him not to. So this pattern of behavior you're claiming I have is based on one instance, and second explicit request that we not do this again.

You should look in a mirror. The overreaction by you and others is a much stronger pattern.

And I tend to thrive when there's pushback, just look at the discussion I was having with Spinachcat before the rest of you jumped in. I was explaining how things work, and presenting arguments and evidence.

In contrast, none of you have done that. Your responses in both the previous thread and now in this one have been almost utterly devoid of content, amounting to "nah", telling me your (negative and false) impressions of me (like this post of yours), or putting words in my mouth.
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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #218 on: September 19, 2020, 01:15:40 PM »
So, you are admitting to engaging in tribalism?
I don't have a tribe.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #219 on: September 19, 2020, 02:30:42 PM »
So, you are admitting to engaging in tribalism?
I don't have a tribe.


So all of these contrarian posts are your attempt at announcing that you'd like to be adopted by a tribe?


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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #220 on: September 19, 2020, 02:38:35 PM »
I've mentioned tribalism in exactly two discussions, and this time it only came up because Brad butted into the discussion with a dismissive and contentless reference to the earlier thread, so I asked him not to. So this pattern of behavior you're claiming I have is based on one instance, and second explicit request that we not do this again.
You are just completely unable to admit when you're wrong, even when presented with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Clutch those pearls!

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #221 on: September 19, 2020, 02:55:36 PM »
So all of these contrarian posts are your attempt at announcing that you'd like to be adopted by a tribe?
Nope. It seems to be desperately important to you, though.

You are just completely unable to admit when you're wrong, even when presented with overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Clutch those pearls!
Zero is overwhelming? Because you certainly haven't provided a single shred of evidence,.


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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #222 on: September 19, 2020, 03:34:39 PM »
So all of these contrarian posts are your attempt at announcing that you'd like to be adopted by a tribe?
Nope. It seems to be desperately important to you, though.


It is, because I am laughing at your antics.

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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #223 on: September 19, 2020, 04:20:19 PM »
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
In my experience, that doesn't apply to Pat.

He (or she, it's Pat!) is always fun to joust with because while Pat staunchly (or some say stubbornly) holds to his positions (as I do too), Pat always seems TO ME to be willing to look at other perspectives and evidence. 




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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #224 on: September 20, 2020, 05:45:58 PM »

My favorite reaction so far.


https://twitter.com/rezaaslan/status/1307107507131875330


I'm like, bitch, have you looked out a window lately?
Saw that. Would like to see him sitting in an interrogation room downtown, explaining why he wasn't making terroristic threats. But then, I've gotten tired of these low life blue checkmarks talking big when it's not their asses on the line.