2020 Election Commentary

[SHARK]

Greetings!

The Hodge Twins respond to "Lead Stories" "fact check" of the Hodge Twins' video about the Georgia Ballot Video.

Lead Stories are full of shit, just like all of the other Leftist "Fact Checkers". Just like Politifact, they are all cock-sucking frauds.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Attorney Jackie Pick, narrates and discusses the Georgia Ballot Video. The video is provided by Sky News Australia.

Eye witnesses and poll-watchers which supplied testimony for this video are under sworn affidavits, which means that if they are lying, they go to prison. Their testimony, this video, and the attorney Jackie Pick here are in my view far more credible than any left-wing "fact checkers" or other cock-sucking MSM sources.

Amazing how the Democrats want to insist that this video has been "debunked". Hasn't been debunked at all. Obvious evidence right before your eyes. Democrats are in denial, and want everyone to suck down their corrupt narrative.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Tubesock Army]

As stated previously, Republican election officials, not just "fact-checkers", have debunked that video, as well as most, if not all, allegations of voter fraud. Many of the sworn affadavits so far contain second-hand accounts. Meaning, they are saying that they "heard", or "heard about" fraud, rather than witnessing it. Quite a bit more complicated from a legal standpoint to prove dishonesty in such cases. In any event, no judges have found that these affadavits contain evidence that is sufficiently credible to warrant action. Occam's Razor would indicate that the signal to noise ratio is very low, then. Unless you believe that multiple bipartisan conspiracies existed in many different counties, committed by people who would likewise face consequences if discovered. Democrats and Republicans, in several
different counties, in several different states, working together to rig an election. And being so terrible at it that all of these morons from Fruity Giuliani's clown show caught them. Uh-huh.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Attorney Jackie Pick, narrates and discusses the Georgia Ballot Video. The video is provided by Sky News Australia.

Eye witnesses and poll-watchers which supplied testimony for this video are under sworn affidavits, which means that if they are lying, they go to prison. Their testimony, this video, and the attorney Jackie Pick here are in my view far more credible than any left-wing "fact checkers" or other cock-sucking MSM sources.

Amazing how the Democrats want to insist that this video has been "debunked". Hasn't been debunked at all. Obvious evidence right before your eyes. Democrats are in denial, and want everyone to suck down their corrupt narrative. Interesting how the Democrat politician insists that everything here has been debunked!!!Reee! While several other politicians sitting right there in the hearing make clear that the video evidence and the testimony has not been debunked at all--it is being presented for the first time now, as of last night.

Such monstrous denial and Reeeing by the fucking Democrats. So pathetic.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Tubesock Army]

Serious question: why are you so sure that their description of the video is correct? Why believe these people over Republican election officials? Because what they're saying fits your narrative? Why would Republicans risk their careers, risk legal consequences, risk the threat of violence, to throw the election to Biden? Why are you willing to take the word of these narrators, but not the Republican officials who were tasked with overseeing the election? You keep babbling about Democrats, but what about the Republican officials who have denied that voter fraud occurred? What of them?

The video has absolutely been debunked, by Republicans, who have denied every charge levelled, and who have explained that Trump supporters' description of the video is simply not accurate.

[jhkim]

The video just dropped yesterday. Here's Newsweek about it, citing the work of Fox News reporter Griff Jenkins. They checked with the chief investigator for the Republican secretary of state.

Frances Watson, the chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state office, confirmed that the containers seen in the video weren't suitcases, but rather the normal bins used for the ballot counting process.

"There wasn't a bin that had ballots in it under that table," Watson told Lead Stories. "It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table."

Watson added that the media were never told to leave as the claims indicate, but rather that the location "was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as [ election workers ] were still working." She said that the ballots that had already been opened in front of the observers were the only ones scanned after the media and other observers left.

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-reporter-debunks-georgia-election-fraud-claims-made-tucker-carlson-sean-hannity-1552397

Now, one could claim that the Republican-appointed chief investigator is lying. Maybe those are indeed improper suitcases instead of the normal bins. If so, there should be plenty of witnesses who can shoot down investigator Watson's lies. This isn't something that should be under doubt - it's the normal procedure that hundreds of poll workers engage in. However, if the chief investigator is *not* lying, then the people who spread the video were lying -- and it's them who should be burned.

Here's more coverage of it in mainstream media:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/04/giuliani-boasts-about-finally-providing-evidence-fraud-which-doesnt-appear-be-evidence-fraud/

https://www.gpb.org/news/2020/12/04/fact-checking-rudy-giulianis-grandiose-georgia-election-fraud-claim


EDITED TO ADD: Here's the Fox News reporting on it.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-recertifies-election-results-fulton-county-video

Georgia election chief Gabe Sterling shared a fact-check article from a news outlet called Lead Stories in a Thursday tweet, saying, "The 90-second video of election workers at State Farm arena, purporting to show fraud was watched in its entirety (hours) by @GaSecofState investigators. Shows normal ballot processing. Here is the fact check on it."

The Hodge Twins respond to "Lead Stories" "fact check" of the Hodge Twins' video about the Georgia Ballot Video.

Lead Stories are full of shit, just like all of the other Leftist "Fact Checkers". Just like Politifact, they are all cock-sucking frauds.

The fact checkers, though, aren't asking you to accept their word. They are providing actual references and quotes to the sources. In this case, to the Republican chief investigator and election chief.

The Hodge Twins (at 5:00) make the utterly stupid argument of the person narrating the video made a *sworn statement*. She could go to *jail* if she's lying. So that means there's no way that she would lie. Which is utterly ridiculous.

Now, maybe the lead investigator and the election chief are lying. But it's also possible that the allegations are lies. The word of the two sides - and supporting witnesses - are what the courts will be deciding on. I haven't seen the affidavits of the other people who were around - as well as others who know the general election procedures. I'm not claiming to know for certain who is lying and who isn't - but I think someone is a naive fool to suggest "Oh, no one would *ever* make a false allegation in *court*."

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Officer Brandon Tatum on the Tatum program discusses the Georgia Ballot video, as well as additional testimony concerning voting fraud.

Mind boggling.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[rawma]

Also CA certfied about an hour ago, putting Biden over 270.

Excellent news for the reality based world. Another step forward in an inevitable process toward an administration that offers hope to the nation and the world.

Kraken worshipers here will doubtless retreat further into their fantasy worlds. Pat, on the other hand, is likely to wait until March 4, the pre-1937 traditional inauguration day, before deciding whether Joe Biden should be called President-elect.

[SHARK]

Serious question: why are you so sure that their description of the video is correct? Why believe these people over Republican election officials? Because what they're saying fits your narrative? Why would Republicans risk their careers, risk legal consequences, risk the threat of violence, to throw the election to Biden? Why are you willing to take the word of these narrators, but not the Republican officials who were tasked with overseeing the election? You keep babbling about Democrats, but what about the Republican officials who have denied that voter fraud occurred? What of them?

The video has absolutely been debunked, by Republicans, who have denied every charge levelled, and who have explained that Trump supporters' description of the video is simply not accurate.

Greetings!

Well, so far, I have seen plenty of evidence of so-called Republicans being quite complicit in corruption. President Trump has been fighting against the Democrats for four years--which have engaged in a constant litany of lies, fraud, and corruption against the President--aided and cock-sucked along the way by plenty of RINO's and "Never Trumpers". Thus, when it comes to the 2020 Election, it would be absolutely naïve to not expect the Democrats and their Republican cucks to engage in fraud and corruption. I don't need to hear testimonies of eye-witnesses, Conservative alternative media news people, or Conservative lawyers to tell me that fraud has taken place in this election. I knew all by myself on election night, when President Trump was overwhelmingly ahead, and had the election won easily. Then, somehow in the middle of the night--hundreds and hundreds of thousands of votes--all going for Biden--somehow gets dumped in the deep of the night, and Biden is then declared the winner? That is just BS, man. Mathematicians, pollster experts, and so on have all discussed how such an occurrence is BS as well, and has never, ever happened before. So, from election night alone--or immediately in the morning--I knew the Democrats were engaged in fraud and BS.

Beyond that, the affidavit witnesses will go to prison if they are lying. Various officials and politicians--whether Democrat or Republican--can say whatever they want; they can lie through their teeth nine ways to Sunday, and suffer zero consequences. Same thing goes for all of the "Fact Checkers" and members of the MSM. I have zero faith in anything the MSM media says.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Mistwell]

I hope they do a signature audit in Georgia. Because when they find that also disproves the fraud allegation, SHARK will have to eat a huge bag of shut the fuck up. Oh, we all know he will just pivot around that, because that's what all conspiracy nutters do. But the rest of us will see him for the utter bullshit he's represented in this thread.

[SHARK]

Greetings!

Also, Tubesock Army, yes, I also am deeply skeptical of many "Republicans". On any given day I think somewhere between 50% and 80% of them are also lying, corrupt frauds that are in bed with globalists. They hate President Trump, and also are eager to look for any opportunity to attack the President. Many of these corrupt slugs will go right along with neoliberals in government to bring back more wars, more corrupt government regulations, more porkbarrel BS, and on and on. They could care less about the erosion of the country, selling the country out to the Communist Chinese, letting the Marxist Democrats plough fuck them in the ass, as long as they keep getting that sweet money.

So many of these slugs in the past go golfing with the Democrats, have cigar dinners, and interbreed their kids together--meanwhile promising always to "fight again another day!" while nothing actually gets done. And yet, the Marxist Globalists keep scoring legislative and regulatory victories every step of the way. RINO Republicans "lose gracefully and with dignity" over and over again. I think millions and millions of Conservative Americans are fed the fuck up with that whole program. President Trump has worked to fight against that whole program--the swamp--and lots of Republicans with connections in law, Pharmaceutical companies, trade companies, Defense industries, and more, have hated President Trump for it, and bitterly.

So, it doesn't surprise me that there are lots of Republican politicians and officials that just choose to look the other way, soft peddle their jobs, not investigate too vigorously, play deaf, dumb, and blind, so that Trump can lose. That isn't just true in Georgia, but throughout the country. So, yeah, I am skeptical of what a lot of swarmy, good ol' boy establishment Republicans say. Their motivations are very much in question, Tubesock Army.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[SHARK]

I hope they do a signature audit in Georgia. Because when they find that also disproves the fraud allegation, SHARK will have to eat a huge bag of shut the fuck up. Oh, we all know he will just pivot around that, because that's what all conspiracy nutters do. But the rest of us will see him for the utter bullshit he's represented in this thread.

Greetings!

Really, Mistwell? I want legitimate, thorough investigations and audits, because I want the elections to be fair, and free of corruption and fraud. Fuck all the suspicious BS. Get the legal votes counted, and all the BS phony ballots thrown the fuck out. If Biden won such an election, fine. I don't believe that Obama engaged in fraud to win his election, and I am no fan of President Obama. I have stated several times now--quite apart from any "conspiracy theories"--I have felt numerous aspects of this election were very suspicious, and require full investigations.

Beyond that, well, for four years we have seen the Democrats engage in one BS conspiracy theory after another, all of which have been entirely fraudulent.

Here, we have lots of evidence, lots of eye witnesses, affidavits, and testimony. Hundreds, and more. A storm of questions, analysis, and concerns over problems in several states during this election. I want justice to prevail, Mistwell. TRUTH.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

[Pat]

Your reasons are almost all garbage.

Your reasons are garbage, because they're based on ignoring what I said, and invoking the now proven to be incorrect tradition, not the rules.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in my first response, until you declared that the media are all lying. What followed just confirmed the observation. Only one species of duck does that, and it's got two right wings. So you just keep on quacking, duckie.

Your entire argument is that it's inconceivable that the media would lie on any subject, at all? That's an absurd claim, even without the specific evidence in this case.

You seem really invested in telling me what I believe. Which is as dumb as it's always been, Jeff. But it's good that you're mixing up your signature "dance, dance" with variations like "keep on quacking".

[Tubesock Army]

I hope they do a signature audit in Georgia. Because when they find that also disproves the fraud allegation, SHARK will have to eat a huge bag of shut the fuck up. Oh, we all know he will just pivot around that, because that's what all conspiracy nutters do. But the rest of us will see him for the utter bullshit he's represented in this thread.

No, he won't. He's not moved by facts. He has a fatal case of confirmation bias, and will see only that which reinforces his beliefs.

Here's a joke for you:

A conspiracy theorist dies and goes to heaven.

When he arrives at the Pearly Gates, God is there to receive him.

"Welcome. You are permitted to ask me one question, which I will answer truthfully."

Without hesitating, the conspiracy theorist asks, "I have to know, who really killed JFK?"

God replies, "It was Lee Harvey Oswald, and he acted alone. "

The conspiracy theorist pauses, thinks to himself, then says "Shit! This goes higher up than I thought..."

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Greetings!

Really, Mistwell? I want legitimate, thorough investigations and audits, because I want the elections to be fair, and free of corruption and fraud. Fuck all the suspicious BS. Get the legal votes counted, and all the BS phony ballots thrown the fuck out. If Biden won such an election, fine. I don't believe that Obama engaged in fraud to win his election, and I am no fan of President Obama. I have stated several times now--quite apart from any "conspiracy theories"--I have felt numerous aspects of this election were very suspicious, and require full investigations.

Beyond that, well, for four years we have seen the Democrats engage in one BS conspiracy theory after another, all of which have been entirely fraudulent.

Here, we have lots of evidence, lots of eye witnesses, affidavits, and testimony. Hundreds, and more. A storm of questions, analysis, and concerns over problems in several states during this election. I want justice to prevail, Mistwell. TRUTH.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You say you want an investigation, but also that you want all the "BS phony ballots" thrown out. You've already decided there was fraud, even though no court has found that to be the case. You don't want an investigation, you want your beliefs parroted back to you. Even if there was a full and thorough investigation, if it found what authorities have already found, i.e., no evidence of voter fraud on any appreciable scale, you would simply attack the results as corrupt, and the investigators as dishonest.

Are the judges, some of them Trump appointees, who have laughed Trump's team out of court dozens of times now, all in on "the fix?" Is this something you really believe?

Trump supporters are trying to get the courts to act on allegations that lack the legal legal merits to proceed, and Trump's legal challenges have yet to alleged actual fraud in court. In fact when asked point blank blank whether they have direct evidence of wrongdoing, Trump and GOP lawyers have been forced to admit, on several occasions, that they do not. This is not evidence of corruption. It is evidence that Trump's claims lack merit.

If you really wanted this investigated, if you really cared about the truth, you would realize that Trump's various legal challenges are being blown up left and right because they're absurd.

Trump and the GOP have at their disposal the same legal remedies available to anyone in their situation. The fact that they haven't been able to make significant legal headway is down to the fact that their claims are baseless and their execution amateurish.

But you will continue to call anything that contradicts your point of view "corruption". You will find fault with any investigation that doesn't yield the results you think it should. You will continue to ignore information that contradicts your narrative. And I will continue to point and laugh. And Biden will be sworn in.

[Trond]

Part of the problem is that the media have become utterly unreliable, and I'd argue worse so on the left, which I used to follow more than the right. Most leftists seem oblivious to it, while right-wingers are so aware of it that they are skeptical to anything that doesn't "feel right" to them, because they are constantly being lied to (and by Republicans too by the way). I have debated people on a left-leaning forum, and they had no clue that Trump supporters had been murdered in the protests, that George Floyd had breathing problems before he was put on the ground, or that he had previously committed armed robbery of a pregnant woman. Or indeed that the Democrats, in trying to expose Russian collusion had been going after an informant for CIA, i.e. he was helping the US intelligence against the Russians. That was actually when the collusion story fell apart, but most leftists don't know that it ever did.