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Shrieking Banshee

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2020, 06:21:19 PM »
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To send the military against the cartels. Also, stop illegal immigration by bringing the USA to them.
The same effective way America managed to stop the Taliban and Isis. Except also giving the Taliban Tickets into the USA.

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Also, pre-empt China's world domination plot.
There can be more done but that would require a hard 'cold war' type announcement. Not a good position to do that now.

I appreciate your healthy skepticism but at times black pills become just blindness inducers.

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2020, 06:35:36 PM »
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To send the military against the cartels. Also, stop illegal immigration by bringing the USA to them.


OR, they could, you know... legalize drugs and let the "problem" sort itself out. Then Central and South American countries could boost their economies by cultivating legal drugs and selling them to the USA, negating the need for illegal immigration in general.

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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2020, 07:25:57 PM »
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It doesn't matter who wins. Everybody will lose.

I'll only vote for the candidate whose platform is to annex Mexico.


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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2020, 08:10:48 PM »
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The same effective way America managed to stop the Taliban and Isis. Except also giving the Taliban Tickets into the USA.


There can be more done but that would require a hard 'cold war' type announcement. Not a good position to do that now.

I appreciate your healthy skepticism but at times black pills become just blindness inducers.


There's nothing healthy about it. The political parties are cancerous now. They're killing America while China and Russia circle us like vultures.

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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2020, 08:13:45 PM »
I'm not an American and don't live there.
However from the feel I get from conversations and how actually events are panning out, unless Trump voters are simply too afraid to go out and vote, then Trump will will 2020, for better or worse.

One thing is for sure, the impact of Trump winning or Biden winning in November is going to effect all of the west to some degree and I think dramatically in the USA.
With this and the Corona Virus still affecting us all, it's probably a good idea to have a bug out plan "just in case"  

I'm not saying some some of apocalyptic event or general collapse of civilization, but things seem like they're getting really serious and it hasn't peaked yet.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2020, 08:14:17 PM »
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Baron von Fancy Socks.


I love that. It is right up there with Governor Party Tits. Kudos!

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2020, 08:44:35 PM »
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The political parties are cancerous now.
NOW? When where they ever not cancerous?
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They're killing America while China and Russia circle us like vultures.
You're grossly overestimating both China and Russia.

Not that the USA is infallible but I see its core issues as social issues, with the political parties being more expressions of said issues than in reverse.

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2020, 10:08:57 PM »
Parties have never been good for America, but as the culture war becoming synonymous with political parties, now we're talking un-healable divisions, even within friends, families and most importantly, gaming groups. That's sad.  

I'm not a fan of "enthusiasm as indicator" because Hillary couldn't fill a high school gym and still almost won.

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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2020, 11:18:11 PM »
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Parties have never been good for America, but as the culture war becoming synonymous with political parties, now we're talking un-healable divisions, even within friends, families and most importantly, gaming groups. That's sad.  

Again Id rather it be in the open than hidden. This was always gonna happen this way one way or the other. And the way that happening right now is one of the better ways.

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« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2020, 12:58:46 AM »
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Parties have never been good for America, but as the culture war becoming synonymous with political parties, now we're talking un-healable divisions, even within friends, families and most importantly, gaming groups. That's sad.  

Yeah I agree. I do restrict conversations with certain friends.
Whilst I consider myself more or less "Centre Left", a few of my friends IMO have gone more extreme left and some areas of discission are off limits by unspoken consent.
It does train friendships somewhat at times, but I've working on changing my circle of friends over the last year or so with people who are more moderate or just more open to discussion with varying opinions.

As to family, well, I'm somewhat of a black sheep in my family anyway, so no loss there with a few exceptions with those who can remain calm in a discussion.

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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2020, 11:58:58 AM »
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If you're interested in betting on the election, I would start with Sports Geek.  They have links to legal betting sites and recommendations.

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I highly doubt that.Trump and Biden both have issues with enthusiasm right now but Biden's enthusiasm is completely non-existent while Trump's enthusiasm is depressed and with cancel culture at a fever pitch, it's difficult to tell how much of that is an actual lack of enthusiasm and how much is a lack of visible enthusiasm out of fear of being targeted by some SJW on social media AKA a silent majority

We won't know until November and Biden hasn't even picked a goddamn fucking running mate yet. I'm not making any predictions or giving any ballpark guesses until Joe Biden has a running mate for Vice President or we get a presidential debate on TV, whichever comes first.

Biden doesn't need enthusiasm, he has demographics, democrats galvanized against orange man (who is very, vary bad), and right wingers have been systematically purged from social media for "election interference". The meme warriors that did so much to get Trump elected have taken their ball and gone home. Trump hasn't made good on any of the promises that motivated his voters. When the BLM riots kicked off, and kept getting worse, he has nowhere to be found.

Trump's win in 2020 was a long shot. He was going up against one of the most hated politicians in American history and still barely won. I have no doubt Trump will trounce Biden hilariously in the debates, but it won't matter. Too many of the people he needs to come out are tired of "winning" and tired of his bloviating, empty BS. Even the Q-tards ore beginning to distrust the plan. If I'm wrong then by all means ridicule me on Nov 8th, but I don't know if Biden can lose if he tries.

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2020, 03:36:10 PM »
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Biden doesn't need enthusiasm, he has demographics, democrats galvanized against orange man (who is very, vary bad), and right wingers have been systematically purged from social media for "election interference". The meme warriors that did so much to get Trump elected have taken their ball and gone home. Trump hasn't made good on any of the promises that motivated his voters. When the BLM riots kicked off, and kept getting worse, he has nowhere to be found.

Trump's win in 2020 was a long shot. He was going up against one of the most hated politicians in American history and still barely won. I have no doubt Trump will trounce Biden hilariously in the debates, but it won't matter. Too many of the people he needs to come out are tired of "winning" and tired of his bloviating, empty BS. Even the Q-tards ore beginning to distrust the plan. If I'm wrong then by all means ridicule me on Nov 8th, but I don't know if Biden can lose if he tries.

Except this flies right in the face of 'record breaking Republican primary turnout, even in states where Trump's primary is unopposed'.

I'm sorry, you can't have BOTH these things be true. Either the Silent Majority is loading the mother of all 'fuck you's' into the electoral artillery chamber, or they're not even in the ballpark.

Worse, Biden is not going to excite the base. He's the Democrat answer to Jeb Bush. He's already locked himself into a tight spot by declaring a woman POC will be his VP nominee, which limits his options drastically. His propensity to lose his train of thought after it's left the station is just going to make it even more bizarre.

On the upshot, Trump will get to practice making his funny faces during the debates when Biden suddenly veers off into la-la land and starts talking about Eskimo double rainbows and how not voting for Biden means you're not really black.

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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2020, 06:47:58 AM »
You guys scare me.

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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2020, 04:38:39 PM »
From the Cook Report, with 100 days to the election, Democrats are favored to take control of the Senate.  

The current composition of the Senate is 53 Republicans, 47 Democrats (includes 2 Independents who caucus with the Democrats).  In order to win the Senate, the Democrats would need to pick up 4 seats, or 3 seats plus the Presidency.  There is an expectation that Doug Jones of Alabama loses his seat, so in order to pick up the ~5 seats Democrats need.

It Appears that Arizona and Colorado will elect Democrats; Mark Kelly is an extremely strong candidate running against an appointed Senator (she lost her race to the Senate) and polls show Kelly with a 7-10% lead.  Colorado is a state that Clinton won, and the state seems to have moved left in the intervening 4 years; there have been few recent polls but Hickenlooper had a double-digit lead against the Incumbent since he won the primary.  

North Carolina and Iowa are both showing a Democrat lead.  Montana has a popular former governor running for the Senate with a virtual tie with the incumbent; although it is a ruby-red state, it looks like it will a close election.  Susan Collins in Maine is very vulnerable, polling behind her Democratic challenger Sara Gideon.  

The most vulnerable Democrat is in Michigan - where polls show Democratic incumbent Gary Peters leading John James by 9%.  

Summary: Democrats are defending 12 seats is 'solid D' territory, 1 in Lean D territory, and one in Lean R territory that they're likely to lose.  Pickup opportunities for the Democrats include Arizona (rated lean-D), Colorado, Ga (1 of the 2), Iowa, Maine, Montana and North Carolina.  Even in 'Lean Republican' territory (Georgia's OTHER election and Kansas) there are signs that it may end up being more competitive.
When I say objectively, I mean 'subjectively'.  When I say literally, I mean 'figuratively'.  
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2020, 09:21:06 PM »
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Except this flies right in the face of 'record breaking Republican primary turnout, even in states where Trump's primary is unopposed'.


That was ages ago in the pre-BLM world.

That was back when Trump supporters believed the world would return to normal where Trump could get the economy restarted and revving back into gear, but Trump underestimated the evil of the MSM and governors who manipulated the shamdemic to drown the economy in the shitter.


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Either the Silent Majority is loading the mother of all 'fuck you's' into the electoral artillery chamber, or they're not even in the ballpark.


Exactly true.

Nobody knows if the Silent Majority exists...or what they will actually do. No poll can be trusted because the MSM is nothing but anti-American lying filth and even FOX news have been testing out their new "leftist-lite" approach.

Also, the Silent Majority has that name because they don't vote, so we would have to see some monstrous new voter registrations for Republicans to believe they're even motivated to get off their couch.

Worse, even if the Silent Majority exists and leaps into the fray, it might not matter against the left's election fraud. States with mail-in voting might as well be counted as Biden wins. Any state where there's "ballot harvesting" operation is already lost.


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Worse, Biden is not going to excite the base.


His base knows Biden's not going to be the power in the White House. They aren't voting for Biden. He's just the name on the ticket and won't be more than a figurehead, if he's even kept around. Democrats are voting for liberal and Marxist control and destruction of the nation...and they are VERY motivated to make that happen.  

In fact, Biden babbling nonsense at the debates might even help him. He doesn't matter to his voters, but Trump voters might see Biden drooling and mistakenly believe there's nobody dumb enough for vote for Biden when we most certainly have an entire nation full of worthless morons excited to destroy everything past Americans sacrificed to ensure.