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Re: 2020 Election Commentary
« Reply #1470 on: December 01, 2020, 12:00:45 am »
A quick Google search shows that SHARK'S source, former 3-star general Thomas McInerney, is as much of a deranged fucktard as he is.


Let's start with the fact that he's a dedicated white supremacist who was so convinced that Obama wasn't "really" President on the grounds that -SURPRISE!- he wasn't a natural-born American, that he encouraged a US Army officer to go AWOL. This was part of some retarded scheme to subpoena Obama's birth certificate. The Army had no patience for this kind of bullfuckery, and Lt Colonel Terry Lakin was convicted, sentenced to prison and dishonorably discharged. Nice going, eh?

Then he got himself booted permanently from FOX News for claiming that John McCain squealed on fellow prisoners in Vietnam.

He reminds me of Major General Edwin Walker, another white supremacist jack-off who tried to incite men in uniform to disobey lawful orders on the grounds that the current commander-in-chief was a commie who was too friendly to the "coloreds" and a Catholic to boot. I figure it's only a matter of time before McInerney, like Walker, gets arrested trying to sodomize an undercover police officer in a public restroom. Twice.

The fact that a moron like Thomas McInerney was able to get three stars ***  on his uniform goes a long way to explain why this country has lost almost every war since 1945.

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Deranged fucktard? Really, Elfdart? Go fuck yourself, moron. You just love going to bat for fucking Marxists.

Lieutenant General McInerney is a white supremacist? Oh yeah. Now I know you are getting on your knees so some Marxist can fuck you in the ass! Cock-sucking pussy Liberals like you love calling everyone and anyone a "Hu White Supremacist!!!" Oh, REEEE!

Shut the fuck up, jackass.

From the Blaze Video, as they discuss the Media station's interview with Lieutenant General McInerney, the general discusses the event which occurred in Germany. I would expect a Lieutenant General might have some relevant contacts and information on such developments.

I am open minded, and await to see more information. Regardless of your flaccid opinion of Lieutenant General McInerney, the Blaze network provides interesting discussion, which is why I posted the video of the discussion, jackass.

You though, being a Marxist cunt full of jello, well, we all know you just suck down whatever BS the MSM serves up, with absolute certainty.

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You're the one putting up unsubstantiated click-bait, you dumbass. You try to claim that you're open-minded, but that's a fucking lie. You just fucking hate America and want to cause more strife.

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"unsubstantiated clickbait"? No, I haven't, moron. EOTB first alluded to the information in his post, referencing an Army Colonel as I recall; I've heard ordinary citizens bring the topic up; then, just earlier today I saw the video put up on the Blaze. The Blaze is open minded, somewhat skeptical, and they discussed the interview that I believe was a TV channel WE something or other that apparently interviewed Lieutenant General McInerney--further adding more sources to what I and EOTB had brought up. I haven't heard many details about this, and further comented from what EOTB has posted, for the purposes of speculation and discussion.

You don't like it? Fucking choke on it. I love America, and I am not "causing more strife". Did you actually watch the fucking video, jackass?

Fucking morons.

WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION!

Geesus some of you are fucking full of sand. I posted the video as examples of more people talking about this, for discussion here. I already said I don't know much about the events in Germany, though I am interested to hear more--and I keep an open mind.

I should also add that the three gentlemen on the program have been in radio media for years--they are media professionals that have worked with the host Glenn Beck for years. They are also members of the Glenn Beck radio program. You probably don't agree with Glenn Beck's politics--but I have always thought Glenn Beck--and his staff here involved in the discussion--have been reasonable and thoughtful people. Like Jeffy, the main guy talking in the short clip, I also want to see these servers, computers, etc and so on presented as evidence.

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« Reply #1471 on: December 01, 2020, 12:37:33 am »
Greetings!

Brandon Tatum attended the special hearing in Arizona. Here in the B Tatum program, Tatum discusses what he saw and heard at the public hearing.

In addition, Officer Brandon Tatum also discusses the alleged shootout in Frankfurt, Germany involving US Special Forces against CIA operators.

Very interesting, folks!

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« Reply #1472 on: December 01, 2020, 01:12:25 am »
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Huh? My whole point was about how we have a great history of free speech here in the U.S. -- how we have never been limited by only select sources. I was contrasting with your claim that seemed to be elevating social media as a contrast to what came before.

I would say that none of social media, government media, or legacy media is inherently "information we can trust".

It seemed to me that you were talking up social media as a positive force that contrasted with autocratic societies. I have a negative view of social media -- and I felt that the BSM (Before Social Media) age had better alternatives.

This is why some people don't get the Babylon Bee

Dude. Sorry if that was just a joke. With all the extreme claims being posted here, I have a hard time distinguishing what are actual claims versus hyperbole versus sarcasm. Nothing personal at you.

No offense taken.  But if Rawma posts something in any tone about how Donald Trump is our savior, I know I'm reading verbal sarcasm.  Because that's counter to what he expresses in every other post. 
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« Reply #1473 on: December 01, 2020, 01:30:07 am »
The hand recount in Georgia did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.
The hand recount in Wisconsin did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.

Tell me how many recounts it takes to at least put doubt in people's minds that this "Dominion machines rigged the election" conspiracy theory might not be legit?

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« Reply #1474 on: December 01, 2020, 02:19:55 am »
The hand recount in Georgia did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.
The hand recount in Wisconsin did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.

Tell me how many recounts it takes to at least put doubt in people's minds that this "Dominion machines rigged the election" conspiracy theory might not be legit?
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« Reply #1475 on: December 01, 2020, 02:20:59 am »
WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION!

Geesus some of you are fucking full of sand. I posted the video as examples of more people talking about this, for discussion here. I already said I don't know much about the events in Germany, though I am interested to hear more--and I keep an open mind.

I watched the BlazeTV and the Steve Turley video, which were at least short. I didn't watch the B Tatum video which was an hour and half. The Steve Turley video at least showed testimony being given in court.  But what was being presented in court in their clip was the contents of an anonymous email!!!  Turley acted shocked and outraged over the contents of the email -- I was shocked that a fucking anonymous email was being presented as evidence in court.

From about 6:00 in the video, "This was an anonymous email that was sent to all the members of the Arizona legislature and it was also sent to DOJ. This individual sent the email wanted to remain anonymous but had enough concern that he sent this to the criminal division at the U.S. Department of Justice. He did not want to be included in the investigation." He goes on to detail the horrible things exposed by the email, leaving aside that... it's a fucking anonymous email. Also, interestingly, it goes against the Dominion machine theory by claiming now that *any* election machine can have the same.

The BlazeTV segment was just people talking second-hand about what McInerny said -- when he's fucking 83 and long retired. He's not an inside information source to army operations. What's amazing was how all the players were emphasizing how the claims were completely unbelievable -- but then they keep going on because they have absolute faith in McInerny.


Like you, I'm trying to keep an open mind, but there has to be a filter at some point for what one is trying to keep an open mind about. Seriously, I realize that your emotions are running high - but there needs to be a filter at some point. Anonymous emails are not, in fact, shocking proof as Turley is claiming. McInerny at least is a named source, but as far as I can tell, he's not talking about anything he has first-hand knowledge of. He's just someone who has decided to believe the rumors.

But what if there are, like, *hundreds* of Twitter posts and anonymous emails. Surely that shows there is something there to be concerned about? Maybe. But also maybe not. The only thing it definitely shows is that people really *want* to believe.

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« Reply #1476 on: December 01, 2020, 02:24:26 am »
WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION!

Geesus some of you are fucking full of sand. I posted the video as examples of more people talking about this, for discussion here. I already said I don't know much about the events in Germany, though I am interested to hear more--and I keep an open mind.

I watched the BlazeTV and the Steve Turley video, which were at least short. I didn't watch the B Tatum video which was an hour and half. The Steve Turley video at least showed testimony being given in court.  But what was being presented in court in their clip was the contents of an anonymous email!!!  Turley acted shocked and outraged over the contents of the email -- I was shocked that a fucking anonymous email was being presented as evidence in court.

From about 6:00 in the video, "This was an anonymous email that was sent to all the members of the Arizona legislature and it was also sent to DOJ. This individual sent the email wanted to remain anonymous but had enough concern that he sent this to the criminal division at the U.S. Department of Justice. He did not want to be included in the investigation." He goes on to detail the horrible things exposed by the email, leaving aside that... it's a fucking anonymous email. Also, interestingly, it goes against the Dominion machine theory by claiming now that *any* election machine can have the same.

The BlazeTV segment was just people talking second-hand about what McInerny said -- when he's fucking 83 and long retired. He's not an inside information source to army operations. What's amazing was how all the players were emphasizing how the claims were completely unbelievable -- but then they keep going on because they have absolute faith in McInerny.


Like you, I'm trying to keep an open mind, but there has to be a filter at some point for what one is trying to keep an open mind about. Seriously, I realize that your emotions are running high - but there needs to be a filter at some point. Anonymous emails are not, in fact, shocking proof as Turley is claiming. McInerny at least is a named source, but as far as I can tell, he's not talking about anything he has first-hand knowledge of. He's just someone who has decided to believe the rumors.

But what if there are, like, *hundreds* of Twitter posts and anonymous emails. Surely that shows there is something there to be concerned about? Maybe. But also maybe not. The only thing it definitely shows is that people really *want* to believe.
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« Reply #1477 on: December 01, 2020, 04:01:48 am »
WATCH THE FUCKING VIDEO AND LISTEN TO THE DISCUSSION!

Geesus some of you are fucking full of sand. I posted the video as examples of more people talking about this, for discussion here. I already said I don't know much about the events in Germany, though I am interested to hear more--and I keep an open mind.

I watched the BlazeTV and the Steve Turley video, which were at least short. I didn't watch the B Tatum video which was an hour and half. The Steve Turley video at least showed testimony being given in court.  But what was being presented in court in their clip was the contents of an anonymous email!!!  Turley acted shocked and outraged over the contents of the email -- I was shocked that a fucking anonymous email was being presented as evidence in court.

From about 6:00 in the video, "This was an anonymous email that was sent to all the members of the Arizona legislature and it was also sent to DOJ. This individual sent the email wanted to remain anonymous but had enough concern that he sent this to the criminal division at the U.S. Department of Justice. He did not want to be included in the investigation." He goes on to detail the horrible things exposed by the email, leaving aside that... it's a fucking anonymous email. Also, interestingly, it goes against the Dominion machine theory by claiming now that *any* election machine can have the same.

The BlazeTV segment was just people talking second-hand about what McInerny said -- when he's fucking 83 and long retired. He's not an inside information source to army operations. What's amazing was how all the players were emphasizing how the claims were completely unbelievable -- but then they keep going on because they have absolute faith in McInerny.


Like you, I'm trying to keep an open mind, but there has to be a filter at some point for what one is trying to keep an open mind about. Seriously, I realize that your emotions are running high - but there needs to be a filter at some point. Anonymous emails are not, in fact, shocking proof as Turley is claiming. McInerny at least is a named source, but as far as I can tell, he's not talking about anything he has first-hand knowledge of. He's just someone who has decided to believe the rumors.

But what if there are, like, *hundreds* of Twitter posts and anonymous emails. Surely that shows there is something there to be concerned about? Maybe. But also maybe not. The only thing it definitely shows is that people really *want* to believe.

Greetings!

Excellent, Jhkim. Indeed, some "whistleblowers" and other sources often remain anonymous--to protect their identities because of where they work, or who they work with, and that kind of thing. Law Enforcement agencies and government agencies have skills and resources and analysts with which to follow up on investigations, authenticating data within the anonymous source, and so on. Obviously, depending on the details, such can warrant extensive investigations. Even within corporate investigations, I have seen this done routinely. The more damning or serious such allegations are made, the more seriousness that investigations are proceeded with.

Furthermore, yeah, some people can be nuts, just grinding an axe, indulging fantasies, whatever. The seriousness of the events in question though--and the integrity of our election system--warrants thorough and comprehensive investigations.

Instead, what we get is told to sit down, shut up, there's nothing to see here. There's no fraud! There's no widespread fraud! There's no substantial fraud! and on and on--but little or no investigation. It's like a knee-jerk response, all of the talking heads repeating it all like a mantra. Meanwhile a whole bunch of people are screaming bullshit. Politicians, witnesses, mathematicians, cyber expert people, professional bookies, IT people, and so on.

I remember reading that AG Barr ordered DOJ agents to go about the country, and if they saw anything noteworthy, to proceed to investigate. Not three days later--less than that, as I recall--some group of DOJ agents and officials all unanimously declared there was no fraud, no corruption, nothing to see here. The election was just fine. WTF? We have states that can't seem to count their fucking votes properly in weeks--and these DOJ morons in less than three days are fucking certain that the election was just fine? You have to be fucking kidding me, you know?

Shit needs to be thoroughly investigated.

As far as Lieutenant General McInerney, well, I have heard EOTB mention it--in reference to a Colonel that was interviewed and who is a cyber expert--then Dr. Turley, then Dan Bongino, then Glenn Beck--and in some additional pieces I have read, Congressman Rep. Gohmert of Texas has discussed this, as well as Lawyer Lin Wood, and Sidney Powell, and several other commentators.

So, it seems like something is going on. If nothing happened, well, that will come out too, somewhere along the way.

If this operation really did in fact occur--and the US government has seized servers and shit, then that will be presented somewhere too. That being the case, don't you think something like that should be investigated? Again, all's I hear from the MSM and Democrat talking heads and morons like Politifact--is the Reeing that it never happened, nothing to see here. Like Politifact can be trusted? *laughing* Like the MSM such as CNN and MSNBC can be trusted? No, they have never lied, distorted, or ignored the facts. They have never bent over to get plough fucked by their Democrat candidate or favourite ever, showering them with praise and glory and cock-sucking, while hiding or ignoring uncomfortable truths?

So, no, I don't feel such sources are trustworthy at all, in the slightest. I would trust my coffee girl at the restaurant more. She might not always be right or accurate--but she is not intentionally seeking to lie to me. The MSM outlets lie on a constant basis.

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« Reply #1478 on: December 01, 2020, 04:27:13 am »
It is very telling how a single political cartoon can make the Usual Suspects lose their shit. If rawma and jhkim were as confident as they claim and not terrified that this election fraud was being found out, then the cartoon would not be causing such a stir.

I've corrected lots of disinformation in this thread; jhkim has probably done more of that, as I'm not going to spend my time watching a lengthy video or reading the Kraken filings. But if I can find the fact checks in a brief search, or just link to the court's dismissal of another frivolous lawsuit, then I'm all in.

Maybe you should find a political cartoon that isn't based on something that is completely false and so easy to disprove.

I am not being disingenuous. The terms "President elect" and "Vice President elect" are defined in federal law, and we know that the conditions for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to claim those titles have been met. QED.

Has the Electoral College voted already?

No, then how can QED?

Here's an example of an easy correction.

Presidential Transition Act: https://www.gsa.gov/cdnstatic/Presidential_Act_of_1963.pdf
(definition of President-elect and Vice-President-elect in section 3, paragraph c.)


This tracks with Bush v Gore, where the transition was delayed until December because the election was contested.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-administration-denies-biden-access-to-transition-funds-echoing-2000-bush-gore-standoff-11604950154
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« Reply #1479 on: December 01, 2020, 05:04:09 am »
The hand recount in Georgia did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.
The hand recount in Wisconsin did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.

Tell me how many recounts it takes to at least put doubt in people's minds that this "Dominion machines rigged the election" conspiracy theory might not be legit?

The recounts were verifications of the previous results, not audits of whether there was subversion of the process.  You know that very well. 
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« Reply #1480 on: December 01, 2020, 07:56:01 am »
The hand recount in Georgia did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.
The hand recount in Wisconsin did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.

Tell me how many recounts it takes to at least put doubt in people's minds that this "Dominion machines rigged the election" conspiracy theory might not be legit?

The recounts were verifications of the previous results, not audits of whether there was subversion of the process.  You know that very well.
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« Reply #1481 on: December 01, 2020, 01:34:09 pm »
The hand recount in Georgia did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.
The hand recount in Wisconsin did not prove out this "Dominion machines rigged the election" claim.

Tell me how many recounts it takes to at least put doubt in people's minds that this "Dominion machines rigged the election" conspiracy theory might not be legit?

The recounts were verifications of the previous results, not audits of whether there was subversion of the process.  You know that very well.

If by hand you count 10 votes for X and 5 votes for Y, and the machine had also counted 10 votes for X and 5 votes for Y from those same ballots, that demonstrates the machine is not fixing the vote. It's not going to tell you if there were some ballots which were "fake" or something, but it is going to tell you if the machine was changing the results of the count. So it doesn't disprove all possible allegations but it does disprove that allegation about the Dominion machines.

Wisconsin and Arizona are now certified. Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Georgia previously certified.
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« Reply #1482 on: December 01, 2020, 01:37:46 pm »
That is absolutely horrible logic.  I can see why you get upset when people share videos about the actual allegations being made; it takes true ignorance of the allegations for arguments such as yours to have any effect.
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« Reply #1483 on: December 01, 2020, 01:42:51 pm »
That is absolutely horrible logic.  I can see why you get upset when people share videos about the actual allegations being made; it takes true ignorance of the allegations for arguments such as yours to have any effect.

The closer it gets to the inevitability of you having to accept you were wrong and Trump lost, the crankier and more personal your attacks become. Which is to be expected, but it's a bit sad watching it happen.

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« Reply #1484 on: December 01, 2020, 02:19:39 pm »
There’s nothing to be cranky about Misty.  We’ll just have to see what happens.  Your type of republican is reviled more with every passing day, as shown by cratering ratings at Paul Ryan’s Fox News, now only supported by the boomerist of boomers. 

As I said upthread, the decision point is SCOTUS, or possibly whether Trump is willing to upset tradition entirely.  I wouldn’t bet on his willingness to do that.  But most importantly, the real need is to get all the RINOs out of the Republican Party or leave it behind.

And every day a greater number of red voters sees our two groups are not on the same side, dispelling an illusion that persisted for decades. 

This development is much more important long-term than a trump presidency, if his ceiling for change is what the rest of the establishment is willing to do on his behalf but he is not willing to do himself.

And if he is willing to do it himself then the party purge happens anyway

Nothing to get cranky about.
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