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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2006, 11:08:21 AM »
Amber could also benefit from a Hackmasteresque seperation of GM and Player info. The Hackmaster PHB tells you only what you need to play. It doesn't even tell you what your 3rd level fighter needs to roll to hit AC 6. Pretty much everything not related to character creation and maintenance is located in the Gamemaster's Guide, which is completely off limits to the players.

Sure, you can't prevent them from running out and buying a copy, but if a player quotes a GM rule in a game he's automatically slapped with a roll on the Smartass Smackdown table. An alternative metagaming penalty could be applied in a diceless game. Although I've found that trust works better than punishment in my group/

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2006, 12:59:43 PM »
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It wasn't?


Oh, that one. Yes, right. I was sleepy.

Yes, that one is right. Players should be focusing on their actions, not on being slimy little rules lawyers. Fuck you with a spoon if you think different, bitch.

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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2006, 01:01:09 PM »
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It has been suggested elsewhere that such system guidelines could be included in the "three versions" motif that Wujcik uses for each of the elders.

Likewise three versions of other features, like 'startup' and creating backgrounds and wounds, etc.

Implicitly, it would ignite the GM's creativity and show everyone that there is not one true method.


Yes, if that had to be done, it should be done like that. Because if you put only one suggestion, no matter how many times you make it clear "this is only a suggestion"; it will be taken to mean a law.

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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2006, 01:23:54 PM »
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Oh, that one. Yes, right. I was sleepy.

Yes, that one is right. Players should be focusing on their actions, not on being slimy little rules lawyers. Fuck you with a spoon if you think different, bitch.

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How eloquent. Of course, you could have saved yourself some typing and simply accessed your memory, as I've said several times that rules lawyers suck. Hell, I've even suggested that players not be told some of the rules of a game. If you were to read instead of lashing out every time you stub your ego on your own foolishness you'd know that.

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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2006, 03:44:29 PM »
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Fuck you with a spoon if you think different, bitch.

Pundit, I don't know you personally, but comments like this seem destined to generate bad feelings between posters. As moderator of this forum, I would think that you would hold yourself to a higher standard than the rest of us slobs.

If we want to encourage the Amber community to thrive and grow, we should think about the way we present ourselves to those who might happen upon a thread and stop to check it out. Even if such comments were meant in jest between friends, I would suggest that we all try to remain civil and discuss topics rather than sling insults. :(

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2006, 03:49:15 PM »
You obviously don't know him. He created this board as a place where he could ridicule the people that got tired of hearing from him on their own boards. That it has become a place where gamers come to chat owes itself more to the other mods than him. In short, he doesn't care abut making this place somewhere that Amberites will come to chat. It's just a place where he can shove his tongue up Erick's ass and berate anyone whose idea of Amber differs from him.

My advice is to ignore him and chat with everyone else, since you don't seem the type to dive into the fray. If you can wade through his BS he does sometimes make some good points. The problem is that it's usually too much work, especially when he gets a Swine hair up his ass.

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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2006, 08:41:45 PM »
Wow. I guess I wandered into a minefield by accident. :eek:

I'll try not to take Pundit's comments personally, then. It's a shame he has to be so grumpy, however, because he does seem to have a wealth of good ideas and interesting opinions.

By the way, I really love the Pundit smiley --->  :pundit:
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2006, 08:51:09 PM »
To Pundit's credit, he seems intent on keeping this forum relatively free of his usual obsessive slander, though, presumably out of respect for Wujcik.
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2006, 11:04:06 PM »
He's done a pretty good job of it too. A couple of slipups, but nobody's perfect. :)

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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2006, 12:53:51 AM »
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Wow. I guess I wandered into a minefield by accident. :eek:

I'll try not to take Pundit's comments personally, then. It's a shame he has to be so grumpy, however, because he does seem to have a wealth of good ideas and interesting opinions.

By the way, I really love the Pundit smiley --->  :pundit:


There's no minefield, James has just been intentionally dedicated to attack me at every turn pretty much since he got here. Since absolutely nothing will stop him from his intended course, there is nothing at all to be gained with treating him as a faithful participant of civil discourse, since that's clearly not his purpose here.  He is only on this board to attack me, and to destabilize the forum.

He has claimed now, on another thread, that he's going to stop doing this, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.  
You can interpret my actions any way you like, Fin, but keep in mind that I'm owner and principle admin of this forum, and yet allow people like James to be here.  In almost any other RPG Forum, he'd have long since been banned for this kind of attitude.  So you have to ask, who is really being "Civil" here? Were his constant attacks on my person in any way "civil"? Would it be more "civil" for me to ban him than to respond the way I have?

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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2006, 02:45:25 AM »
Again, your persecution complex is flaring up. You post so much that "at every turn" would be a full time job. And you obviously also don't read or remember, as I've partaken in lots of civil discourse, some of it even with you.

And dude, in any other forum I wouldn't be poking at you because you wouldn't be allowed in. You know, like the forums you've been banned at?

And like I said, I'll hapiily chill because it was annoying people. However, I'd ask that you also drop it, rather than looking to get the last word in.

And as I said, you've been pretty good about not ranting on this forum and I'm glad for that. You have slipped a few out, but it's a subject you're passionate about, so it's to be expected.

And if I've ever told a lie about you, let me know and I'll retract it instantly. Well, let me rephrase that. If I've ever told a lie about the Pundit persona I'll retract it. See finarvyn, I forgot to mention that the RPGPundit screen name is a persona. What the real person is like underneath is I have no idea, but he has himself admitted that the character is meant to behave like an ass. Another reason to take what he says with a grain of salt.

And now, so there is at least a little on topic conversation in this post, what are some good ways to bend a contest so that your superior endurance can take effect? I'm thinking that going for a hell ride would work, as they either chase and get exhausted quicker or leave you alone. If you're in some sort of negotiations you could haggle over every niggling little detail ("No, I think we should spell it theatre"). Anything other ideas?

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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2006, 08:12:22 AM »
I have a high Endurance. Can I get the last word in? :)
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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2006, 12:00:38 PM »
So....

Any chance we can get this thread closed?  I think its value is pretty much gone.
 

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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2006, 12:40:15 PM »
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Again, your persecution complex is flaring up. You post so much that "at every turn" would be a full time job. And you obviously also don't read or remember, as I've partaken in lots of civil discourse, some of it even with you.

And dude, in any other forum I wouldn't be poking at you because you wouldn't be allowed in. You know, like the forums you've been banned at?

Around here, James, I get the last word.

If you were on any other forum and treated any other mod the way you have been acting toward me, you wouldn't be here anymore.
Remember that when you think I'm such an asshole. Yeah, I'm such an asshole that I'm letting you consistently piss all over me in every part of this site, and my only concern is that its getting the point where if you can't stop yourself from doing it, and so far it appears you can't, you will actually harm the stability of the boards, by constantly derailing threads by turning them into attack rants about me rather than staying on topic.

If you want to "fight the man" stop jumping in and saying "Look!! look how stupid RPGPundit is!! Look at me while i say he's stupid!! look at me! over here!!"; and start arguing with my ideas instead. Either that, or shut the fuck up, if you find the former impossible. You are allowed to ignore what I say. You're allowed to argue with me. You're not allowed to just go around consistently insulting me with personal attacks, especially if doing so inevitably leads to a thread (like this one) being thrust completely off-topic and getting ruined for the rest of the posters.

It is not your job to try to educate anyone else about me, and on the other hand if this is just (as you claimed) your own private way to get your jollies, then your right to do so stops where you end up disrupting the forum, and you might as well (if it really is about you, and not about getting attention) just keep your laughs private, to yourself.

Now please, drop the topic here. Failure to do so will be interpreted as an near-retarded level of inability to do so.

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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2006, 12:41:33 PM »
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So....

Any chance we can get this thread closed?  I think its value is pretty much gone.


On this board, we don't actually close threads. You can feel free to start a new thread with a similar topic if you like...

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