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What is Magical Tea Party?

Started by Aglondir, July 11, 2013, 10:26:38 PM

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Aglondir

I heard this term on the forum, but I have no idea what it means.

Doom

It comes from a troll forum, not this one, but basically means "to play without any actual rules".

It's a somewhat derogatory term, but, bottom line, there will be times in a RPG where there's nothing in the rulebook that tells the GM/players how to handle it. So, they MTP (Magical Tea Party) it, making it up as they go along.

Thing is if you're paying actual money for a game, and you're playing MTP more often than not, the question arises: why pay for the rules?
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Sacrosanct

It's a term quite most often used by people whenever the GM needs to make a ruling for anything.  Ever.  These people feel like every possible scenario must be addressed in the rules, and the GM shouldn't be allowed to make a ruling at any time, or they aren't playing a "real" game, and are playing MTP instead.  it is often paired with "mother-may-I".

It's really nothing more than a passive aggressive way to tell someone that they are having badwrong fun playing RPGs.
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So....
 Its not when the adventuring party suddenly decides to protest the King's heavy taxes with launched fireballs and 'magic missile'?

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Imperator

It is another way of saying "my gaming is better than yours" as many others you will find in this or other sites.
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S'mon

Quote from: Sacrosanct;670164It's a term quite most often used by people whenever the GM needs to make a ruling for anything.  Ever.  These people feel like every possible scenario must be addressed in the rules, and the GM shouldn't be allowed to make a ruling at any time, or they aren't playing a "real" game, and are playing MTP instead.  it is often paired with "mother-may-I".

So it's another derogatory term for Free Kriegspiel.

Bill

Quote from: Sacrosanct;670164It's a term quite most often used by people whenever the GM needs to make a ruling for anything.  Ever.  These people feel like every possible scenario must be addressed in the rules, and the GM shouldn't be allowed to make a ruling at any time, or they aren't playing a "real" game, and are playing MTP instead.  it is often paired with "mother-may-I".

It's really nothing more than a passive aggressive way to tell someone that they are having badwrong fun playing RPGs.

I would say it is based on about certain personality types having control issues.

The "You are playing rpgs wrong" is just self justification after the fact.

And I apologize if this offends anyone; That is not my intent, just stating my opinion.

mcbobbo

See also the antonym - Player Entitlement
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flyerfan1991

Quote from: Imperator;670196It is another way of saying "my gaming is better than yours" as many others you will find in this or other sites.

Yep.  People whipping out their e-peens as if people are impressed by that sort of thing.

Rincewind1

Well, my game is better than yours, for the note.

That out of the way - it's an attack against a GM who dares to provide rulings rather than stick to the Holy Writ of a mechanic.

On the subject, my favourite criticism was "Making houserules is like chiselling in shit".
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

mcbobbo

To be fair, it is useful to have labels to use as shorthand for concepts.

I just wish they didn't all devolve into pejoratives.
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Kaiu Keiichi

Quote from: Sacrosanct;670164It's a term quite most often used by people whenever the GM needs to make a ruling for anything.  Ever.  These people feel like every possible scenario must be addressed in the rules, and the GM shouldn't be allowed to make a ruling at any time, or they aren't playing a "real" game, and are playing MTP instead.  it is often paired with "mother-may-I".

It's really nothing more than a passive aggressive way to tell someone that they are having badwrong fun playing RPGs.

No, they're right.

I've had far too many bullshitter faux-novellist GMs who want to railroad me into their red dragon inn made up BS. A good example was a friend of mine whose GM said she couldn't use sneak attack in 3.5, even though she fulfilled all the rules conditions to get a sneak attack, because he felt it was "too powerful and didn't feel right."

I'm down for GMs having their appropriate authority, but if I want free form gaming, I'll go to a Mind's Eye Theatre LARP or take an improv class.
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Sacrosanct

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;670422No, they're right.
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This implies that you're disagreeing with me, but then you go on to say something that had nothing to do with what I actually said.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.