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QuoteOriginally Posted by jeff37923 View Post
The section on Conception, Pregnanacy, and Crossbreeding is pretty damn pointless (Humanoids are fast-breeding while Elves and Dwarves are very slow-breeding in comparison, not surprising).

a bit of a necro but that was one of the best parts of the book

as for the kama sutra thats really not about sex

My GM owns a copy of this and has used some of the classes and a couple of the races (notably Felids) in her own campaign.

She has also used the pregnancy/conception/etc chapter in her game and brought it into another as a counter to GM Shenanigans, and actually appreciates these rules as she's used the Real Life Pregnancy Rules herself (she's a mother so it speaks to her).

I am not as fond of the BoEF as she is but I can appreciate it for expanding these rules in particular. Not that pregnancy should be in every campaign, especially with younger players (I'd say the 10 to 14-15 crowd), but lately I've been of the theory of "have rules that can be used even if only optional."

I have it and I liked it and have even used material for it in my (non D and D) fantasy games. But sex has always been a hot button issue in gaming and hard to handle "well" (well meaning widely approved) except in the vaguest manner you can so it (and any other sex focused books) are very deep in "Your Mileage may Vary" territory.

I think it was a necessary book in a lot of ways and it was a brave attempt to tackle the subject seriously. Yes, there were problems with it in terms of presentation and so forth, but it was necessary. It demonstrated some of the faultlines we're still dealing with today, though the axes have shifted somewhat since then.

It was definitely instrumental in people moving away from the D&D label towards OGL only as it became apparent that Wizards could and would cause issues for people producing content and it just wasn't worth the bother.

Quote from: GRIM;807393It was definitely instrumental in people moving away from the D&D label towards OGL only as it became apparent that Wizards could and would cause issues for people producing content and it just wasn't worth the bother.

Frankly I can understand why Wizards wouldn't want their brand associated with the book (especially given the critical reviews) but it's not like there isn't interest in the subject.  Perhaps even legitimate interest.

JG

Well... Since everyone is determined to keep this necro alive and well...

I own the book, and I occasionally take it off the shelf to look at the pretty pictures.  Er... I mean read...

What I found, long years ago, was that it was a great resource for actually keeping out of control sexing OUT of the game.  My players (a mixed gender bunch at the time) were essentially destroying any semblance of a campaign with 'anything goes' sexy-time imaginings, but when I plonked down a big hardback full of rules to use on them they sobered up and played straight. For years after I've been able, with various groups, to use the book in exactly the same way.  Works better than a hose of cold water, and is far less harmful to my dining room.