Quote from: everloss;661919With this, a universally panned piece of shit, you don't really go into any details at all...

Do not be childish. I am under no obligation to conform to general opinions about anything, including but not limited to this book. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions - indeed opinion are inevitable - however I am uninterested in uninformed opinion or lies. I did discuss specific aspects of the book, including flaws such as a mediocre feats and the mistake of the Appearance attribute as well as the fact some material is not related to sexuality including a prestige class and some of the spells, which weakens the focus of the work. The review itself is 1,200 words in length, which is sufficient to get the point across. The additional remakes are about 700 words, where I expressly suggest adding it to a personal collection (do you use every single RPG book you own, or do you have some simply because you like them?) but not employing the BoEF in a game because people will react badly.

How often do you employ the torture and addiction rules from BoVD?

Quote from: jeff37923;661992I think GrumpyReviews just wants some attention.

Do not be childish. I am no more interested in attention than anyone else who posts to the internet. If I was utterly unconcerned with "attention," I would have neither written the review nor composed the video, to say nothing of posting the material.

Quote from: GrumpyReviews;663201Do not be childish. I am no more interested in attention than anyone else who posts to the internet. If I was utterly unconcerned with "attention," I would have neither written the review nor composed the video, to say nothing of posting the material.

So, did you do this just for attention or not?

Quote from: James Gillen;661226German is definitely the language to use in describing forcible sodomy.

JG

HA!

I like that the guy giving the "Oh gee! I can finally have fake sex in my D&D!" book a glowing review is calling people childish

But seriously grumpy, your reviews are not very good. And it's not because you have shitty taste in games but because they're very light on actual content. After reading your reviews I rarely (never) feel informed about the game so much as I simply know your opinion.

I actually just read the review just now and . . .

What the fuck? "10"? Seriously?

This is up to the highest standards of RPG game design to you, Grumpy? What the fuck?

Quote from: GrumpyReviews;663201Do not be childish. I am under no obligation to conform to general opinions about anything, including but not limited to this book. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions - indeed opinion are inevitable - however I am uninterested in uninformed opinion or lies. I did discuss specific aspects of the book, including flaws such as a mediocre feats and the mistake of the Appearance attribute as well as the fact some material is not related to sexuality including a prestige class and some of the spells, which weakens the focus of the work. The review itself is 1,200 words in length, which is sufficient to get the point across. The additional remakes are about 700 words, where I expressly suggest adding it to a personal collection (do you use every single RPG book you own, or do you have some simply because you like them?) but not employing the BoEF in a game because people will react badly.

But you gave the book a "10", a rating generally reserved for the crème de la crème of books. You're basically saying this book is a "must have", not "I liked it, but it may not play well with everyone's group."

A fucking "must have". :rolleyes:

Quote from: Novastar;664411You're basically saying this book is a "must have", not "I liked it, but it may not play well with everyone's group."

I also gave "Charnel Houses of Europe" a 10, and it has a narrower use than BoEF. CoE requires a game be in the Wraith setting/line, in the WoD and deal with the Holocaust. But it is still a good book and worth adding to an RPG collection.

BoEF is silly fun, like some sex joke, and is among the books which won't see much game use but is another RPG worth having anyway.

If you are a creepy gamer, this book deserves a ten for your uses.  I don't think you are a creepy gamer Grumpy.  So, this is some form of sarcasm.

Quote from: GrumpyReviews;665096BoEF is silly fun, like some sex joke, and is among the books which won't see much game use but is another RPG worth having anyway.

I basically liked it, but in my review at The Banning Place, I said that it doesn't answer the essential question of why I would trade a Weapon Focus feat for a Sexual Endurance feat.

JG

Quote from: GrumpyReviews;665096BoEF is silly fun, like some sex joke, and is among the books which won't see much game use but is another RPG worth having anyway.

But that's the problem, it's not fun. It's exceedingly dull and clinical. It's about as exciting and fun as the typical 3.x WOTC sourcebook.

They managed to make a book about sex boring. That is its real sin.

Quote from: JeremyR;665170They managed to make a book about sex boring.

No, I've read that book.  It's called the Kama Sutra.

jg

Quote from: James Gillen;665407No, I've read that book.  It's called the Kama Sutra.

jg

Like most people, you were reading it wrong. You are supposed to read it with another person, one going left to right, other right to left.

Quote from: jeff37923;661328The section on Conception, Pregnanacy, and Crossbreeding is pretty damn pointless (Humanoids are fast-breeding while Elves and Dwarves are very slow-breeding in comparison, not surprising).

a bit of a necro but that was one of the best parts of the book

as for the kama sutra thats really not about sex

The problem with the BoEF wasn't that the art was bad (though it was), nor that it was poorly edited (though it was). The problem with the book was that it's main theme was too weak to support all of the new crunch it put forward.

That's a rather vague statement, so let me instead phrase it like this:

If I buy an RPG book about deserts, I'll be able to use it the next time the PCs go through a desert. If I buy an RPG book about lycanthropes, I'll be able to use it the next time the PCs fight lycanthropic enemies. If I buy an RPG book about sex, I'll be able to use it...when?

Jokes aside, it's the inability to answer that question that reveals the central weakness of the BoEF. "Sex" by itself, isn't a game scenario that justifies that many new mechanical options (and, in fact, is virtually never a game scenario at all).

This is one area where I think that Sisters of Rapture - the BoEF's spiritual successor - exceeded its predecessor masterfully. Rather than focusing on sex itself, it's central premise deals with a free-love cult whose members are beautiful, promiscuous women (and it has better editing and illustrations).

(Disclaimer: I did some collaborating on this latter title.)

i myself am more interested in nymphology i was going to buy it but one of my players wanted to try a vow of non-violence character (on the understanding that the party was free to kill him and leave him in a ditch the moment they got sick of it) so i brought the book of exalted deeds instead because im a nice dm like that

oh god the book of exalted deeds is horrible how could they do so well on vile darkness and fuck up exalted deeds so much and thats just from page 9 im a bit scared to move on i had heard it had problems but this is just stupidity

i guess the idea of sex as a school of magic just appeals to me more then any of the other stuff