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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2015, 08:01:35 PM »
In my opinion, I think it's sexist (or maybe just ignorant) to think that girls won't respond to a beautiful female NPC.  Does the reviewer honestly believe that beauty and sexual attraction is either an alien or repugnant concept to all but men in their 30's and 40's?

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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2015, 02:20:40 AM »
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In my opinion, I think it's sexist (or maybe just ignorant) to think that girls won't respond to a beautiful female NPC.  Does the reviewer honestly believe that beauty and sexual attraction is either an alien or repugnant concept to all but men in their 30's and 40's?

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True... they may respond differently to guys though. I'm guessing the 30s/40s thing might be more that younger players are so Politically Correct, having been successfully indoctrinated at school & University, they wouldn't want to play that sort of game. I think it would certainly have been good advice for typical teenage & 20-something male players 20-30 years ago. OTOH Paizo adventures are achingly Politically Correct while 60% of their NPCs are beautiful women, including in some pretty implausible roles. The creamy thighs appear in all the art but not the descriptive text though, maybe that's the difference.

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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2015, 02:12:31 AM »
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I'm guessing the 30s/40s thing might be more that younger players are so Politically Correct, having been successfully indoctrinated at school & University, they wouldn't want to play that sort of game.


OT but just regarding the current cultural wars...isn't it strange to have been a pretty mild-mannered guy, on reaching 40 or so to find that instead of being steam-rollered at pubs and social functions by a confident, testosterone-fuelled younger generation, to find the opposite. The younger guys, for all their tattoos and full beards, won't say boo to a goose, and view you as some kind of dangerous loose cannon.

The narrative of rebellious youngsters which held from the 1950s to 1990s has been inverted.
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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2015, 07:53:50 AM »
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OT but just regarding the current cultural wars...isn't it strange to have been a pretty mild-mannered guy, on reaching 40 or so to find that instead of being steam-rollered at pubs and social functions by a confident, testosterone-fuelled younger generation, to find the opposite. The younger guys, for all their tattoos and full beards, won't say boo to a goose, and view you as some kind of dangerous loose cannon.

The narrative of rebellious youngsters which held from the 1950s to 1990s has been inverted.


Yeah, you might be right.  The only young people I see any more are college students (at my office) and interacting with them while they're waiting tables or operating a cash register.  So, I don't have much evidence.

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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2015, 08:21:28 PM »
Really enjoying the PDF and I've started writing a review as I read section by section after flipping about. It will be a month probably before its done thanks to my schedule.

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p.p.s.  Regarding metal, one of my favorite albums is Slayer's Seasons in the Abyss which came out in 1990.  So, you could say that's the exception that proves the rule or that it was essentially created before the doom that came to metal.


I am trying to clear next Saturday to see Slayer at the Mayhem Festival. I haven't seen them since Hanneman died and Lombardo left.

As a diehard headbanger, I am having WAAAY more fun today than any time since the 80s. Metal is kicking ass today more than I can ever remember, but its happening in Europe and in the US club and festival scene.

Pandora is my friend. At least once a month, I accidentally discover a new band, song or album that rocks, but I never knew existed.

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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2015, 09:01:11 AM »
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OT but just regarding the current cultural wars...isn't it strange to have been a pretty mild-mannered guy, on reaching 40 or so to find that instead of being steam-rollered at pubs and social functions by a confident, testosterone-fuelled younger generation, to find the opposite. The younger guys, for all their tattoos and full beards, won't say boo to a goose, and view you as some kind of dangerous loose cannon.

The narrative of rebellious youngsters which held from the 1950s to 1990s has been inverted.


I've seen the placidity of youthful British geeks, but I'd put this down to me growing up in Celt-blooded Ulster and moving down to Anglo-Germanic southern England. I had also noticed the weird 'herbivore' vibe of younger whites males in the USA, outside of the South and Southwest, but I didn't know this was a new thing. I remember it from as far back as 2000, but I was in Washington DC and I probably thought it was specific to that black-dominated city.

Does this mean 42 y.o. S'mon has a shot with chicks in their 20s, then? :D

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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2015, 09:52:26 AM »
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I am trying to clear next Saturday to see Slayer at the Mayhem Festival. I haven't seen them since Hanneman died and Lombardo left.

As a diehard headbanger, I am having WAAAY more fun today than any time since the 80s. Metal is kicking ass today more than I can ever remember, but its happening in Europe and in the US club and festival scene.

Pandora is my friend. At least once a month, I accidentally discover a new band, song or album that rocks, but I never knew existed.


What astounds me is the sheer variety of metal and sub genres there are today (a lot of what sub genres today were just different bands within a single genre when I was playing). Also nice that a lot of the old guard are still around and vital. I think there was an iffy period in the 90s for metal. But a lot of the stuff out now is good, proper metal (from new bands doing new things and from old bands growing and evolving but staying true to their origins).

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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2015, 05:07:57 PM »
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Does the reviewer honestly believe that beauty and sexual attraction is either an alien or repugnant concept to all but men in their 30's and 40's?

Possibly because you didn't mention also describing hot man meat.

If you revisit the book in the future to add new material, you might want to add something for people who want some Prince Charming action in their RPGs.

One of the things I do is have players explain their Charisma. Why do they have the +1 or -1? Are they beautiful, but aloof? Are they plain, maybe even scraggly, but fun to be around? Are tall and regal, looking as others picture a king or queen, even if they have no noble blood? I do this for all my important NPCs that PCs will interact with too.

I find few GMs describe beauty in their games, regardless if the beauty is an aspect of NPCs or an aspect of the scenery.

Also, I find most NPCs are sexless which doesn't help bring the world to life. PCs are often bad boys & bad girls who flaunt society and the law. That's gonna get lots of NPCs interested in them...setting off sexual jealousies among others...


That's why I like Slaanesh in Warhammer - I get to explore horror and danger through lovely joys of the senses. I ran an encounter with some Slaanesh Daemonettes chopping up some villages and describing how the villagers threw themselves upon the gorgeous demons because it felt so good to be chopped up by them. When the PCs engaged in combat, whenever they took a hit, I described how happy, joyful and aroused they were by taking the wounds.  And when a Daemonette bleeds you, the arterial sprays always create art.

And I got pit ticket for Mayhem! Woot!
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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2015, 06:52:39 PM »
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Possibly because you didn't mention also describing hot man meat.

If you revisit the book in the future to add new material, you might want to add something for people who want some Prince Charming action in their RPGs.

'Hot Man Meat' sounds like something a gay male PC might want, it doesn't really describe what most female players & female PCs want, IME. I guess Sir Jorah Mormont could be described as 'Hot Man Meat' from a certain POV, but he's not exactly a Chippendale - nor is Colin Firth.

It also varies by genre - in one Conan RPG campaign I ran, the female players enjoyed having adoring male youths, brave & reasonably competent but subordinate, accompanying their barbarian-babe PCs; the youths were in the Gabrielle role to their Xenas. A literary comparison would be Vanye to Morgaine in CJ Cherryh's series.

In other settings the female players may be looking more for an older Sir Jorah type, a peer rather than a subordinate.

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« Reply #39 on: June 27, 2015, 01:04:29 AM »
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I've seen the placidity of youthful British geeks, but I'd put this down to me growing up in Celt-blooded Ulster and moving down to Anglo-Germanic southern England. I had also noticed the weird 'herbivore' vibe of younger whites males in the USA, outside of the South and Southwest, but I didn't know this was a new thing. I remember it from as far back as 2000, but I was in Washington DC and I probably thought it was specific to that black-dominated city.

Does this mean 42 y.o. S'mon has a shot with chicks in their 20s, then? :D

I don't know about S'mon specifically but I don't think the age in itself is a big barrier...
« Last Edit: June 27, 2015, 01:39:52 AM by The_Shadow »
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