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The RPGPundit's Own Forum / Re: Appreciating an old blogpost
« Last post by Validin on Today at 11:58:36 AM »I wouldn't say that's even completely against a Lovecraftian ethos. August Derleth was a Catholic and expanded on Lovecraft's concept of the Elder Gods, generally benevolent entities who oppose the Old Ones and Outer Gods, and in two or three of Lovecraft's stories, Christian faith has demonstrably supernatural effects. I think when it comes to Lovecraft or CoC it's a mistake to think it's a monolithic body of work that's completely consistent and self-contained, when in reality there's no actual Lovecraft "canon setting". His own work was collage of vaguely-at-best related stories that other authors then took and expanded on further, making dozens of different Lovecraft worlds that are often only loosely connected, if at all, and at times completely conflict. Lovecraft strongly encouraged all this in his lifetime, and despite his own materialistic views, he was very good friends with Derleth and helped him improve his fictionwriting ability. Doing a Lovecraft game lets you use any number of people's versions of his world, if you even use them at all and don't make up your own.I was interested in Warhammer for a while, or tried to be, and that involved ignoring a lot of things about it. Eventually, I cut and left it, and this article really puts into words why - to me - it fails as a setting cosmologically, and why it doesn't present an engaging, authentic late medieval/early modern setting properly: the pitiful, insipid and sniveling post-modernist ultranihilism that pervades its themes throughout.As for CoC, I don't get the idea that nothing you do matters. The majority of the Mythos don't care about humanity or have no idea we exist. It's the cultists who drag these entities into our reality and when you tommy gun those bastards, the world becomes a little safer and a little brighter.
I'm only vaguely familiar with Warhammer, but in CoC, the Mythos aren't from some alternate reality - they're an integral part of our own reality and history.
Still, I agree that PCs can make the world a little safer and a little brighter. I had a CoC PC for a while who became a devout Catholic, and was convinced that what was happening was the Biblical end of the world. He saw lots of horrible things, but he considered it all part of the Judgement which was testing everyone's faith. He was convinced that everyone was going to die - but that those who behaved virtuously in the face of the end would still go to heaven.
That said, this was definitely against the Lovecraftian ethos. I can see characterizing Lovecraft's nihilism as insipid -- but it isn't in any way post-modern.