1
The RPGPundit's Own Forum / Re: Greta is at it..AGAIN
« Last post by ralfy on Today at 01:33:26 AM »The lifetime emissions can range from 20% less to 60% less than a gasoline car, depending on how its made and especially on what source you're charging it from.
So, by only comparing lifetime emissions, you are conveniently leaving out the environmental harm done in the process of strip mining for the minerals needed to make the batteries to make the EVs. You can't be unaware of this problem since GeekyBugle has brought it up several times in detail. I can only conclude that you are being deliberately disingenuous and deliberately presenting a false view of the costs. In short, you are arguing in bad faith again.
By "lifetime" I mean end to end, including both production and disposal -- i.e. including the minerals needed for the car body, engine, battery, etc.
BUT you're ONLY focussing on gas emissions, because?
If I was a betting man I would say it's because you can't argue your way out of the TOTAL environmental damage done by EVs
EVs have low energy returns and quantity because much of mining, at least half of manufacturing, and the bulk of shipping involve fossil fuels. Similar applies to mechanized agriculture.
Meanwhile, energy returns from fossil fuels have been dropping, from a hundred barrels for each barrel used in the 1930s to three today. Why do you think the oil industry has been resorting to not only fracking but tar sands, biofuels, natural gas, etc., with even countries like Saudi Arabia investing in nuclear and solar power?
It's like debating with Greta and her counterpart, and both living in a fantasy world: one imagines utopia based on environmentalism and the other based on the Jetsons.