This is a site for discussing roleplaying games. Have fun doing so, but there is one major rule: do not discuss political issues that aren't directly and uniquely related to the subject of the thread and about gaming. While this site is dedicated to free speech, the following will not be tolerated: devolving a thread into unrelated political discussion, sockpuppeting (using multiple and/or bogus accounts), disrupting topics without contributing to them, and posting images that could get someone fired in the workplace (an external link is OK, but clearly mark it as Not Safe For Work, or NSFW). If you receive a warning, please take it seriously and either move on to another topic or steer the discussion back to its original RPG-related theme.
NOTICE: Some online security services are reporting that information for a limited number of users from this site is for sale on the "dark web." As of right now, there is no direct evidence of this, but change your password just to be safe.

Recent Posts

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10
1
The RPGPundit's Own Forum / Re: RPGnet's decay (TBP madness)
« Last post by ChrisFox on Today at 11:13:51 PM »
Can anyone give me some (brief) context about
This HAS to be a troll: https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/truth-or-dare-is-an-unethical-game.886994/

(Note: this is in Tangency so you'll need an account to see the thread)



IMO the type of person to make a thread demonizing truth or dare is doing it because they were never invited to a game of truth or dare. Or any other social event.

2
...
Going the route of more 'Powered by GURPS' could work... but whoever chases or chooses licenses either needs to stop with their pet projects or be given something of a budget.

GURPS The Vorkosigan Saga Sourcebook and Roleplaying Game anyone?  How about Humanx?  Uplift?  New Sun?  Lensman?  (To be fair, that's the ONE I had heard of.)  Horseclans?...

For the most part, they seem to have licensed stuff no one else wanted, ...

This always seems to be the case when you say: "What GRUPS IP?" and the reply is: "But, but, but they had IP x, y, z..."

Ummm, yeah, nobody cares about IPs x,y,z...


They had Conan, and made it... dull. 

WTF What!? I didn't know that. I had to go and look that up...

So they had one of the RPG hobbies evergreen IPs, and proceeded to go absolutely nowhere with it...

The same IP that Mongoose did two editions and piles of supplements of. The same IP that Modiphius uses their 2d20 house system that nobody cares about, yet their Conan line still sells very well for them.

I mean they had the license back in 1989, when GURPS was very much still something in the hobby, and they couldn't even leverage the Conan IP to show the GURPs system in its best light, it in their heyday!?

#wowjustwow...

So yeah for SJG, GURPS will continue a slide into obscurity. Evidently the signs were there much earlier than I had first supposed.

It seems that GURPS is a typical example of a company that had a good idea that hit, but from that point forward they just couldn't get out of their own way, and when the hobby moved on, they didn't.

More than ever I'm convinced I'm right about what I posted earlier this year back in reply #65:

I think that they just don't have it in them to take a step back, re-evaluate the system from the top down, and then take the plunge with a properly focused and supported game.
3

Do you mean like the ones based on Norse mythology?

Or is it more like the Black Orcs who are Black because Blacks are Bad and Black Orcs are really Black people?

Lol. I like the way you think :D
4
All of this is good. Read Altered's entire post

Welcome aboard Altered. We hope you find the discussion to your needs. And thank you for your post. Good stuff.
5
(I promise this is on topic, it'll just take a second to show it)

So, a couple of years back, the National Football League (NFL) in the US had a series of very disturbing events, several caught on camera, of players abusing their girlfriends/spouses.  One was of a player punching his girlfriend so hard he knocked her out, then dragged her limp body into an elevator.  Another was a player pushing a woman down and then kicking her full force in the head (this player was dropped from his team, sat out a year, and is now a star on another team).

After these incidents, the NFL had its players tape public service announcements that ran before each game, imploring their fans not to abuse women.  This infuriated me, and many other people I knew.  As one wag put it, "Why are they lecturing me about this, when I've never abused a woman in my life?  I should be doing a PSA that THEY should have to watch, since THEY are the ones with the problem!"

So, regardless of who you believe, Paizo has a history of hiring shitty people.  If Price is telling the truth, then Paizo is infested with scum.  If she's lying, then she and all of her cronies (all of whom worked at Paizo) are scummy human beings.  Either way, Paizo is, or was, full of vile employees.  So who the hell do they think they are preaching to me, on Twitter, in their products, on message boards, about what kind of person I need to be, how I need to think and behave, what morality I should follow?  They need to shut up, and get lectured by those of us who haven't ever been foul to our coworkers, bosses, and employees!  And this is why woke destroys game companies.  Because their certitude that they are on the side of angels immunizes them from the self-awareness that is necessary to recognize that THEY are, in fact, the problem, and not qualified to preach to anyone about anything.  Just make good games; that's hard enough (and so far, they haven't even managed to do that...).

Preach Brother!
6
So who the hell do they think they are preaching to me, on Twitter, in their products, on message boards, about what kind of person I need to be, how I need to think and behave, what morality I should follow? 

This is the key premise of your claim, and I am not sure it's on the firm ground you assert (though maybe it is) so can you support it? Where has Paizo preached about what kind of person you need to be, and about your behavior and morality? From what I've seen, all they have done is mention their preferences just like you mention your preferences?

Oh, I don't know, in their book? In the "Gaming is For All" section on pages 5-6 of the Playtest Rulebook?

Call me crazy but that reads exactly as what Eirikrautha is saying?

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/9dpisn/socjus_tabletop_gaming_paizo_pushes_sjw_nonsense/

OK that's a fair example.
7

No, dumbass, it's like anything else. The difference between "hailing a cab" and "seig heil" is context. In the case of this fishing game, it may be an innocent image. The artist has said that they just kind of copied the reference material. Bergren's reputation as a dick didn't do him any favors here, the same way Zak S's didn't. I'd be curious as to who provided the reference material. If it was Bergren, I'd suspect that it was chosen on purpose. No way to be sure, though, and I could be completely wrong. The image is being removed from the game in any event. The local Gaming Goat in my town has already changed its name.


Anything can be racist if you jump through enough hoops.  Forget Six Degrees Of Kevin Bacon, it's Six Degrees Of Racism.
Example: A Black Democrat (Larry Elders) being labeled "The Face of White Supremacy" in mainstream rags like the L.A.Times, IIRC.


Or, maybe we are being lied to.

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Bold to remark your stupidity.

But I'm the dumbass...
8



To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of.

This is the first I've heard of it. Could you provide us with some examples as verification of your claim?
9

To be fair, white supremacy movements have had their own "useful idiots", just as the communists do. If you don't know that there have been people of color enabling or even joining white supremacy movements, I'd encourage you to do some research. It's not unheard of. Not saying Elder is a Nazi, but he's at least a dumbass. When he suggested that the descendants of slaveowners get reparations, he was obviously unaware that after the civil war, slaveowners DID get reparations.

Yes, the folks trumpeting the ok gesture as 'white supremacy' are very useful idiots. It muddies the waters for other actual symbols.  Additionally, after the Civil War, no slave-owners received reparations. The slave-owners in Washington DC got them in 1862, but no one outside of DC did.  I'm not seeing the radical Republican congress being sympathetic to southern slave owners.

Thanks for the correction, but that's too many slavers getting recompense, in any event.

As for muddying the waters, that's the intent when /pol/acks and alt-rightards co-opt these symbols - to give themselves plausible deniability. The Christchurch shooter wasn't using the hand gesture "ironically", and even if he was, that's just the living embodiment of the "joke's on them I was just pretending" meme.
10
*makes 'OK' signs aggressively at Tubesnake*

Yes, we all know you love the tube snake
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10