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Or: How I tried to come up with the longest topic title like ever!

In about a month, I'll be moving about 80 miles from where I'm living now.  Enough of a distance that it'll necessitate a full move of all my possessions, right?

Well, I'm suddenly finding myself tempted to seriously thin down my possessions, to those that either I'll be making steady use or, or that have some emotional value to me otherwise.  The latter bit of that doesn't account for a great deal, actually, and they're typically very small, easily transported items.

But -- and, in the context of this site -- man, am I ever tempted to wade into my RPG collection and just start swinging the sickle o' doom.  As to what I'll do with what I don't want...well, that's the problem.  

I really don't have the time right now to put it up on eBay, which would be a fairly easy solution otherwise.  There's no FLGS around here to unload upon.  And I really don't know any gamers in the area anymore, other than a friend or two and none of them would be particularly interested.

So, assuming that I don't pack all the stuff up and sort through it later, what would other people's suggestions be?  Making money off of the stuff would be nice, but it's not a necessity.  If I could think of some sort of charitable organization that could make use of the material, I'd definately be tempted in that direction.

The other question is what I'll keep.  At this point, I find myself leaning towards keeping a few core rulebooks for various systems, and getting rid of the supplements, worldbooks, and boxsets attached to them.  After all, I've noticed that my desires tend towards making my own shit up anymore than using pre-existing worlds.  The exception would be some of my 1st Ed. D&D materials, particuarly the old modules.  I still like those, and can see getting use out of them.

Oh well, I'm using this thread mostly as an excuse to delay actually getting to work on this.  If this is better suited to another area, feel free to move it.

Quote from: RPGPundit
You're an idiot, and I have read Nobilis, or at least as much of it as I could manage before being overwhelmed by the Borgstromosity of it.

Let's face it, just admit it guys, you were duped. You were duped by what was fashionable. Because you were told that this game was "in" and that she was "brilliant", and so you lied to yourselves to convince yourselves that it was so, so that you could be one of the "in" crowd.

In fact, the game is a horrendously badly written piece of garbage with rules that are so unplayable you have to constantly redefine them from their literal meaning in order to even justify them, much less play them.

I know you feel like idiots now, but continuing with the self-delusion is going to only make it worse in the long run. Anyways, you'll look especially stupid when Borgstrom stops being part of what's "fashionable", something that is already rapidly coming to pass.


Sometimes you remind me of my niece when she was a kid and would get totally worked up about some manner of inanity that has absolutely no consequence outside of her mind and she's run about, stomping her feet, hectoring anyone patient and kind enough to listen to the resulting, seemingly endless diatribe.

There are days that you're so cute that I wish you still lived somewhere in North America.  

She had a little bunny suit that she wore one Halloween.  That's why I wished you were still within reasonable travelling distance.  Because I would so buy you a bunny suit and listen to any and all of your little railings against the cruel injustices of the universe.  Just as long as you wore the floppy bunny suit like so:

The RPGPundit's Own Forum / The "Rebecca Borgstrom is a Moron Law"
« on: November 14, 2006, 02:30:00 AM »
Quote from: RPGPundit
Amusing. You choose to make this place, this game, your "stand" after a gang of Nobilis fanboys tried very very hard to push Guardians of Order to remake the 2nd edition of Amber as a Nobilis-based game.

In other words, they did exactly what you describe, and what I warn about; they tried to subvert a good traditional game and wipe it out of existence by being an overly-vocal minority manipulating the gaming market to push their crappy shithole of a product and wipe out their more interesting, more playable, more popular competitor.

They tried to destroy Amber.  So you will forgive me if, yes, I DO fucking see it as a zero-sum game. If I do, though, its because those fuckers made it that. They made it a situation where they tried to destroy the other game by treachery, because they knew they couldn't beat it in sales, and knew that a 2nd edition of Amber was a threat to Nobilis because Amber is a diceless game that actually works.

So fuck them all. And fuck you for trying to promote the lie that the Swine "just want to get along". They say this while they hold a knife behind their backs like a gang of fucking cowards.  They don't even deserve to be spit upon.

I will fight them at every turn.

You know, a nice walk out in the sunshine and fresh air might be a good idea.    Because this whole tilting at windmills business kinda seems borderline pathological.

The RPGPundit's Own Forum / The "Rebecca Borgstrom is a Moron Law"
« on: November 12, 2006, 11:49:50 PM »
Quote from: Ian Absentia

Look, I have friends I'd love to get playing RPGs, but they take a look at D&D (the best known example for the uninitiated) and shake their heads at it the way you seemed to be reacting to Nobilis.  You hope it doesn't catch on?  Why on earth would you hope that someone else doesn't have a chance to enjoy a game that appeals to their sensibilities?  It's no skin off your nose after all.

There seems to exist this notion, among gamers, that the range of possibilities within RPGs amounts to some sort of zero-sum game.  If games of one stripe were to be successful, it would only be at the expense of games that were of a different type.

Yeah, I don't get it at all either.

But it's there, and I think it's been spelled out quite explicitly around here, wherein this notion that these so-called "pretentious" -- and, Dear God, is that ever a hollow, empty descriptor -- games are somehow meant to destroy Gaming As We Know It.  If people were to engage in an RPG that didn't amount to Kill Things & Take Their Shit on some level...well, the results would be horrific.*

The funny thing is, I'm something of a traditional gamer right now.  My interest in RPGs is towards the D&D model, wherein the "game" aspect is heavily played up.  But I can't see how people not wanting that is hurting me.  At best, it's occasionally made it somewhat difficult, though hardly impossible, to find discussions about the play-style I like without the discussion going off on a tangent that I don't find interesting.  But, you know, that's the danger of engaging in conversation with other people: they occasionally put forward ideas that aren't exactly your own.  

* Nevermind that this belief is often accompanied by the claim that such games are so incredibly inconsequential that they're little more than vanity projects of their creator, that they have no influence on the RPG industry/hobby as a whole, &c.  Not to be picky, but I don't think it can be both things at once.  

The RPGPundit's Own Forum / The Truth about Geeks
« on: November 10, 2006, 03:01:29 AM »

Pen and Paper Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Discussion / Great rpg art
« on: November 07, 2006, 03:09:39 AM »
When I saw the subject, I had planned on immediately posting a link to jrient's Erol Otus Shrine.  However, my slowness and jrient's shameless self-promotion has rendered that aim pointless.  ;)

Otus' cover for the Expert Rules box is perhaps the definitive D&D image for me.  (It helps that the image reminds me of one of my favorite bits of cover art for fantasy paperbacks: George Barr's Zothique cover from the Ballantine Adult Fantasy series.)

Along with Erol Otus, Jeff Dee is another one of my favorite gaming artists, and one that was instrumental in forming what would be my mental image of D&D.

Consider this piece:

Compare that to the awful, awful art that was just unveiled to be the cover for Mongoose's Lankhmar game.  The sheer energy of Dee's work is amazing, and is something that's sadly lacking in much contemporary gaming art.  Hell, it started moving out of RPGs -- or, at least, TSR's games -- during the latter days of 1st Ed. AD&D, with the rise of the Dynamic "E" Duo of Easley and Elmore.

Two more examples:

Fluid figures, energy and motion, great visual storytelling in a single image, evocative as all get out.  

I'm also fond of Bill Willingham's work, though I'm unable to find the pieces that I really love, and my scanner is what you'd call broke.  However, there's this:

(And did anyone actually own that product?  Hooray for having to spend money on hex paper!  I bet I still have that somewhere.)

I always forget the name of this artist, but this is my favorite RPG cover:

It's probably easy to guess the period when I started gaming.  While there is contemporary stuff that I like as well -- DiTerlizzi and Brom come to mind -- nothing is so firmly rooted in my mind and nothing's ever come close to selling me a game's world than this stuff.

Pen and Paper Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Discussion / DIY Lankhmar
« on: November 04, 2006, 06:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Akrasia
One advantage of DIY Lankhmar is that you would not have to suffer the absolutely shitty cover art for the Mongoose book.

That's truly awful, isn't it?

I've seen guys on three-day Viagra benders who weren't a stiff as the figures in that picture.

What about Iain M. Banks?  Not the Culture novels, but perhaps Against a Dark Background?

Other Games / FF XII
« on: November 04, 2006, 05:54:39 PM »
Does it play itself anymore than installments like VIII or IX did?  I enjoyed both of those, in spite of the fact that I felt like I was consuming a very elaborate Choose Your Own Adventure book from my childhood.

And, yeah, that's how far out of the loop on these flashin' lights and whistles games I am.

Pen and Paper Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Discussion / DIY Lankhmar
« on: November 03, 2006, 11:07:34 PM »
I just received my initial batch of books from the SFBC today, and two of them were the collections of all the Lankhmar material.*  I've been searching for Swords and Ice Magic forever; the Lankhmar material seems to be out of print in the U.S., other than these SFBC editions.

I'm working up an Iron Heroes campaign that'll draw from the Lankhmar stories for inspiration, and I'd definately agree that the best source for a direct Lankhmar campaign would be the stories and novel.  

* Well, not all, as it turns out.  The Knight and Knave of Swords isn't collected in the books, but I already had a copy of that.

I'm not very familiar with He-Man since I was somewhat past the age of its target audience when it came out, but along the lines of Pozas' re-imagining, there's this thread over at Concept Art:

Pen and Paper Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Discussion / D&D: 3 vs. 3.5
« on: October 26, 2006, 06:01:09 PM »
I didn't figure there would be enough differences that would come up in playing during Iron Heroes that I'd need to pick up the 3.5 rules, but I thought I wouldn't make that assumption without asking first.

Tekumel, baby!

Pen and Paper Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Discussion / D&D: 3 vs. 3.5
« on: October 26, 2006, 01:58:20 AM »
Someone care to summarize the differences between 3e version and the 3.5 revision of the D&D rules?  I'm familiar with 3e, but I've had pretty much no experience with 3.5 except for an extremely casual glance through the PHB once in a store.

I ask primarily because I recently purchased Iron Heroes, which states that it incorporates the revisions from 3.5.  I'm not terribly inclined to purchase the core rules all over again, particularly without knowing anything about them.

Pen and Paper Roleplaying Games (RPGs) Discussion / RPG-inspired music
« on: October 21, 2006, 02:44:37 AM »
There's that bit in Weezer's "In the Garage":

"I've got the Dungeon Master's Guide.
I've got a 12-sided die.

And...umm...yeah, I think that's about it for anything in my musical collection.

However, googling turns up this gem from Slipknot:

"Pentex sucks! pentex sucks!!
They drain the life force of my tribe
Pentex sucks!

Bonegnawers suck! bonegnawers suck!!
They roll around in garbage bins
All bonegnawers suck!!

(pentex is bleeding but night is falling)

The black hand sucks! the black hand sucks!!
Those wyrm-tainted bastard leeches
Black hand sucks!

If I had my way! if I had my way!
Id rend them all ripped and torn
All that sucks dies!!

(sweet smell bleeding glow is melting me)

I bring my klave into battle
Shifting into crinos - I slay wyrmfoe
Then I step sideways....

You cant see me, for I hide within the umbra

God, I'm actually embarrassed for someone I've never met.

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