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Messages - David R

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Quote from: BedrockBrendan;784953
Bill was a great friend. He was also the other half of Bedrock Games and the GM in our regular group. He played in like 3-5 regular games so I think he had more hours at the table than anyone I've known.

This was very sudden and unexpected.


My condolences on the passing of your friend and a fellow forum member.

Regards,
David R

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What no love for Gothard Goebells aka Gothard Von Wittgenstein, leader of the notorious D&Ders (Deviants and Decadents) from Power Behind the Throne and hinted at in Death on the Reik. Not really a major villain or anything. Although I really liked the nobles of Wittgenstein Castle esp the Lady (forgot her name), the Purple Hand has to be my favourite villains.

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David R

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I think Wraith would nicely fall into my personal def of GrimDark. Esp with the Shadow character in play.

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David R

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Quote from: Spinachcat;502601


What elements are those in your opinion?


You'll need someone familiar with the nuances of the various editions and the culture to articulate those. Me, I'd probably start a flame war. I do know that 4E overnight left many of us out in the cold. Mind you, I'm not a 4E hater or anything like that but even within my own (admittedly) small circle of gamer friends, it was those who got it and those who didn't. With the latter it was as though a different game was being played and we're talking about a group of gamers right up to 3E and maybe 3.5 had a whole lot to talk about when it came to D&D. I'm hoping 5E enables us to have those conversations again.

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David R

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Quote from: Kyle Aaron;502510
What you describe isn't the joy of high-level play, it's the joy of journeying to high-level play. It's the road, not the destination.

And nobody's high-level play had them as lords and heads of thieves' guilds and so on. They just went around beating up Tiamat and Zeus and stuff.


I guess our experiences differ. High level play in my games didn't involve the players going around killing gods and stuff. And I know of a few GMs who are just wrapping up their high level campaigns which involved stuff other than killing powerful beings (although they did some of that too). But maybe you're right about "journeying" to high level play. Nothing wrong with that and it what's makes D&D great for me.

Regards,
David R

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Kyle this is D&D, high level play is part of what makes it great. Sure everyone eventually finds their sweetspot but crawling your way up the ladder with no fudging is the stuff legends are made of.

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David R

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Quote from: Rincewind1;502501

I am just against putting Kult and UA in Grimdark shelf, as I find Grimdark to be a bit of pejorative term.


Fair enough.

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David R

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Well, it may not reunite D&Ders but it could remind them that there are elements of commonality between their various playstyles.

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David R

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Quote from: Rincewind1;502496

.... as grimdark has a connotation of farce and hyperboles being a very strong element of it.


Oh yes, there is that but I have found that in those games which I consider GrimDark (and I'm including some of the games run by friends) all of them have numerous moments of levity.

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David R

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Quote from: Rincewind1;502462
That's quite a tough stance on horror RPGs, David. Grimdark has generally a rather negative connotation, though of course, there's no true definition of it - perhaps'd you care to repeat yours, if I had omitted it?


Well it's not really a tough stance on horror because I don't think that the "negative" connotations of GrimDark neccesarily means that such games are unplayable or not fun. I don't really have a firm definition but taking a cue from other kinds of media I would say that wallowing in a nihilistic pose, engaging in lurid subject matter or just generally presenting a setting where the participation of the PCs generally does little to affect the overall nature of the setting. Understand now, that my definition has really got nothing to do with this thread but since you asked.....

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David R

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Hey, I want 5E to be a success. I'm just hope it's nothing like 4E. I'd know the new edition had that something if it draws folks away from the OSR.

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David R

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Quote from: Rincewind1;502342
I noticed that, though I think nobody cared ;). I think we should distinct between grimdark and Horror settings for RPGs. Maybe UA armies can be considered Grimdark, I don't know them that well, but Kult is (splatter)horror, clearly. Grimdark is a setting that's scary but does not go into horror, basically , for me.


I don't really think that horror should be excluded at least when it comes to RPGs. Whenever I think of GrimDark (not in the 40K sense) I think of material along the lines of Se7en and the original Vanishing (Spoorloos). If an RPG mimics the tone or inspires such a tone, then I think it's swimming in Grimdark territory. I'd go so far as to say, that it's easier to reach such a place using horror or elements of the horror genre.

Regards,
David R

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5atboys.

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David R

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Quote from: StormBringer;502157
Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerous ways, Lord V4der. Your sad  devotion to that ancient 4e religion has not helped you conjure up the Swarm Druid tables, or given you enough clairvoyance to find the OSR's  hidden fortress.


:rotfl: Well played, Stormbringer.

By god I wish I was a systems guy so I could assume the mantle of LordV4der. That would be soooo cool. Unlike Booth, these 4E guys, lack panache.

Regards,
David R

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I don't have much, books and films I remember....

Books of the New Earth by Gene Wolfe

NausicaƤ of the Valley of the Wind
La jetee
Omega Man
No Blade of Grass
Escape From New York
Death Race 2000
Reign of Fire


Regards,
David R

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