Quote from: HappyDaze on December 02, 2020, 06:20:50 pm

Well, I did day one at running my testing site (still inactive) and I quit on the spot. The ineptitude in the administration was astounding, and the lack of training and equipment being offered was terrible. While I saw nothing in the testing that would indicate it would give false readings, there was a market push to get the clinics placed near wealthier neighborhoods and "get the word out" to them...and. while the tests are not particularly expensive, they are not free.

Are they just rushing the process, and if so why? And what was bad about the equipment?

Everything is rushed. No training standards and no dedicated preceptors/educators allotted to assist in training (at least none that didn't also say "fuck this, I'm out" like I did). Supply chain is non-existent (but I was assured it was "under development") and supplies were drawn from various sources without standardization. Why is it rushed? Because we gotta get people tested so they can have a Merry Christmas together... That's my cynical guess.

I played a D&D session at age 9, but i really didn't get into it until about 2 years later.

CP2020 has a setting? 

ahem.

I liked Shadowruns original setting, but it seemed to lose track with each successive edition.

CP2020's setting I have actually never seen. All I have seen was the weird theme park kingdoms version for Im not sure what version.
But I really like the Nights Edge setting for CP2020. A techno-horror/Supernatural setting for CP2020.

SR has the richer setting though. But it is totally YMMV and some like it, some hate it and some jettison the magic part and play it as a straight-up cyberpunk setting.

CP2020 feels more like D&D in that its a "make of it what you will" system and has a rather generic setting as its foundation.
Nights Edge takes things in all sorts of directions and plays with various techno-horror themes in particular. Sometimes with a bit of added supernatural to the mix.

Then theres one most overlook. The Cyberpapacy of the Torg RPG. And the Nippon Tech setting as well. The Cyberpapacy one in particular is an interesting mix of religion and cyberpunk combined. 

Another obscure one worth a glance is Chromosome for the Amazing Engine system. A biopunk setting overall. Needed a little more fleshing out. Bu theres enough there to build off of.

Shadowrun's setting has had some real ups and downs. I really started losing my love for it in 3e, with the constant metaplot like the Renraku Arcology Shutdown (birth of not-Skynet) and the Year of the Comet (freaky shit all over). The 4e and 5e times just kept adding to this in ways that didn't really appeal to me.

One thing Shadowrun did was to take social issues and make them less real. For example, racism was everywhere in Shadowrun, but written in ways that made it feel cartoonish. Shadowrun racism felt as much like real world racism as Cobra (from GIJoe) felt like a real world terrorist organization.

OTOH, much of Cyberpunk 2020 (and now Red) feels like a grittier setting which can have a more nuanced approach to real world issues if you want it to, and it is my preferred medium for dark & dingy (but with chrome) stories. Please note that this does not apply to Cybergeneration or Cyberpunk 3 (Dollpunk) where the setting itself went very...strange.

I too like Torg, but mainly the newer Torg Eternity version. Cyberpapacy has lots of cyberpunk elements, but with the social setup of the middle ages. You don't just take a stand against the corps, you're a heretic opposing the One True God (in the machine--the matrix here contains both heaven and hell) and his rightful servants. Pan-Pacifica (the replacement for Nippon Tech) is cyberpunk in attitude (Electric Samurai are totally cyberpunk) in a Resident Evil setting that lacks cyberware (but has biotech). And, lastly, there is Tharkold with it's occultech (demon-crafted implants) and a post-apocalyptic slant similar to Terminator's dark future or the physical world of the Matrix (outside of the computer simulated Matrix). Lots of different options in Torg Eternity for a variety of cyberpunk flavors.

Fair enough. "Death" was not the best word. So revise to "0 HP", whatever that means in 5E.

My point still stands about -1 being a nothing penalty.

You could go with -1 max hp/HD after each time a character hits 0 hp. This would recover +1 max hp/HD per long rest. For those that do "yo-yo healing" this can rapidly drop such characters' maximum hit points. This really matters as it means the instant death threshold is lowered.

Most public gatherings are forbidden unless it is the lunatic fringe.

Where are you that they make exceptions for the lunatic fringe?

Quote from: Elfdart on November 30, 2020, 09:48:19 pm

A quick Google search shows that SHARK'S source, former 3-star general Thomas McInerney, is as much of a deranged fucktard as he is.


Let's start with the fact that he's a dedicated white supremacist who was so convinced that Obama wasn't "really" President on the grounds that -SURPRISE!- he wasn't a natural-born American, that he encouraged a US Army officer to go AWOL. This was part of some retarded scheme to subpoena Obama's birth certificate. The Army had no patience for this kind of bullfuckery, and Lt Colonel Terry Lakin was convicted, sentenced to prison and dishonorably discharged. Nice going, eh?

Then he got himself booted permanently from FOX News for claiming that John McCain squealed on fellow prisoners in Vietnam.

He reminds me of Major General Edwin Walker, another white supremacist jack-off who tried to incite men in uniform to disobey lawful orders on the grounds that the current commander-in-chief was a commie who was too friendly to the "coloreds" and a Catholic to boot. I figure it's only a matter of time before McInerney, like Walker, gets arrested trying to sodomize an undercover police officer in a public restroom. Twice.

The fact that a moron like Thomas McInerney was able to get three stars ***  on his uniform goes a long way to explain why this country has lost almost every war since 1945.

Greetings!

Deranged fucktard? Really, Elfdart? Go fuck yourself, moron. You just love going to bat for fucking Marxists.

Lieutenant General McInerney is a white supremacist? Oh yeah. Now I know you are getting on your knees so some Marxist can fuck you in the ass! Cock-sucking pussy Liberals like you love calling everyone and anyone a "Hu White Supremacist!!!" Oh, REEEE!

Shut the fuck up, jackass.

From the Blaze Video, as they discuss the Media station's interview with Lieutenant General McInerney, the general discusses the event which occurred in Germany. I would expect a Lieutenant General might have some relevant contacts and information on such developments.

I am open minded, and await to see more information. Regardless of your flaccid opinion of Lieutenant General McInerney, the Blaze network provides interesting discussion, which is why I posted the video of the discussion, jackass.

You though, being a Marxist cunt full of jello, well, we all know you just suck down whatever BS the MSM serves up, with absolute certainty.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

You're the one putting up unsubstantiated click-bait, you dumbass. You try to claim that you're open-minded, but that's a fucking lie. You just fucking hate America and want to cause more strife.

If I could get rid of one thing from the Prequels, it's the dumb idea that fear leads to the dark side. I'll take 15 Midicholorean references instead.

That predates the Prequels. It was around at least as far back as ESB, and may have been mentioned in ANH (but I don't think it was).