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Youtuber violently assaulted at Gencon by sjw

Started by mhensley, August 02, 2018, 06:31:51 PM

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urbwar

Quote from: Omega;1053220For alot of people apparently. No? And especially not when they are trying to force themselves on you and didnt take multiple "NO!"s for an answer.

I had a similar incident happen when I was at a concert. An older woman kept trying to talk to me, and I kept ignoring her. Then she put her hand around my wrist, and tried to get me up out of my stool at the bar and go to the front of the stage with her. I asked her politely to let go twice, and she wouldn't. Third time I used a tone of voice that made it clear I wasn't putting up with her shit. Thankfully she let go and walked off. I was ready to signal the bartender to ask her to get the bouncer (because I wasn't going to do anything to get myself in trouble, though I admit I was tempted for a moment). The couple near me looked at her like she was nuts (they heard me raise my voice the third time I asked her to let go of my wrist). Soon as the concert was over, I took off (the club stays open an hour after the concert ends, but I wasn't in the mood to hang around after that).

Opaopajr

Quote from: Spinachcat;1053201Now that you have won the internet, what are your plans for it?

Why, become a benevolent absurdist dictatorship, of course! :D

We'll doxx park squirrels, disappear kitchen cockroaches, and stifle children's dissent about what's for dinner... and pay for all these things in beaded jewelry from Etsy!

But honestly though, we could all benefit from Etiquette Reeducation Camps. ;) Don't worry, the guards will apologize for having to whip the impolite prisoners. (Most of Tumblr probably will not survive unscathed... :( )
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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Spinachcat;1053289But joking aside, sloppy drunks are creepy and rarely hot enough to be worth the drama.

With all due respect to people who find bar/clubs fun, I find them boring and/or full of sloppy drunks.
Only reason I'd go is to accompany friends.
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Omega

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1053358With all due respect to people who find bar/clubs fun, I find them boring and/or full of sloppy drunks.
Only reason I'd go is to accompany friends.

That has pretty much been me as well.

Back on topic.
How much does GenCon actually sprawl now outside the convention site? As noted earlier back in the 90s when it was still in Wisconsin it would sprawl out to the hotels as much as a block away sometimes.

urbwar

Quote from: Omega;1053364That has pretty much been me as well.

Back on topic.
How much does GenCon actually sprawl now outside the convention site? As noted earlier back in the 90s when it was still in Wisconsin it would sprawl out to the hotels as much as a block away sometimes.

They were running events/seminars in other buildings around the convention centers when I went in 2016. Plus that stadium a few blocks away where they had the LARP and other events. I know I saw convention goers at places to eat at least 4 blocks away

Haffrung

Quote from: Spinachcat;1053201Isn't that the whole point of going to a bar???

I get a kick out of the way people who don't go to bars imagine them as dens of debauchery and vice. The vast majority of people go to bars to have a couple drinks with friends or their partners, share the travails of their workaday lives, get a bite to eat, and maybe watch some sports. I'd be surprised if even 1 per cent of the people who went to a bar in my city last night went home with someone they met.
 

Haffrung

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jeff37923

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Quote from: Haffrung;1053407I get a kick out of the way people who don't go to bars imagine them as dens of debauchery and vice. The vast majority of people go to bars to have a couple drinks with friends or their partners, share the travails of their workaday lives, get a bite to eat, and maybe watch some sports. I'd be surprised if even 1 per cent of the people who went to a bar in my city last night went home with someone they met.

I think that we go to different bars....

EDIT: Holy crap! Sorry about the multiple posts.
"Meh."

jeff37923

Quote from: Haffrung;1053407I get a kick out of the way people who don't go to bars imagine them as dens of debauchery and vice. The vast majority of people go to bars to have a couple drinks with friends or their partners, share the travails of their workaday lives, get a bite to eat, and maybe watch some sports. I'd be surprised if even 1 per cent of the people who went to a bar in my city last night went home with someone they met.

I think that we go to different bars....
"Meh."

jeff37923

Quote from: Haffrung;1053406I get a kick out of the way people who don't go to bars imagine them as dens of debauchery and vice. The vast majority of people go to bars to have a couple drinks with friends or their partners, share the travails of their workaday lives, get a bite to eat, and maybe watch some sports. I'd be surprised if even 1 per cent of the people who went to a bar in my city last night went home with someone they met.

I think that we go to different bars....
"Meh."

Motorskills

Quote from: urbwar;1053396They were running events/seminars in other buildings around the convention centers when I went in 2016. Plus that stadium a few blocks away where they had the LARP and other events. I know I saw convention goers at places to eat at least 4 blocks away

Every hotel with side rooms is used for gaming AFAIK. Lucas Oil stadium was used for the first time a year or two ago and adds several hundred more tables.

Their trade hall could be twice the size and still would feel busy.

I think Gen Con has an excellent relationship with the city, plus Indiana is pretty geographically central, so I don't anticipate Gen Con relocating anytime soon, although it could certainly be justified.

QuoteThe Indiana Convention Center now boasts 1.2 million square feet of space, including 749,000 square feet of exhibition space combined between the Convention Center and Lucas Oil Stadium. The center also has 113,302 square feet of meeting rooms and 62,173 square feet of ballroom space.

Quote1. McCormick Place (Chicago, IL) 2,600,000 sf
2. Orange County Convention Center (Orlando, FL) 2,100,000 sf
3. Las Vegas Convention Center (Las Vegas, NV) 1,940,631 sf
4. Georgia World Congress Center (Atlanta, GA) 1,400,000 sf
5. Sands Expo & Convention Center/
 The Venetian | The Palazzo Resort Hotel Casino (Las Vegas, NV) 1,305,052 sf
6.* Kentucky Exposition Center (Louisville, KY) 1,100,000 sf
7.* New Orleans Ernest N. Morial Convention Center (New Orleans, LA) 1,100,000 sf
8. Reliant Park (Houston, TX) 1,056,213 sf
9. International Exposition Center (I-X Center) (Cleveland, OH) 1,050,000 sf
10. Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center, formerly Dallas Convention Center (Dallas, TX) 1,018,942 sf
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Spinachcat

Any word on the GenCon drama?

Did the cops do anything?

Did the McJackass attacker re-emerge on social media?

Did Hambly get a lawyer to file anything?

Or has the whole thing gone poof?


Quote from: Haffrung;1053406I get a kick out of the way people who don't go to bars imagine them as dens of debauchery and vice.

I never cared where the town drunks hung out. I went to where the young horny women hung out. Of course, those places are generally called "nightclubs" (or now "gastropubs") instead of bars.

But I'm from LA and hung out on Sunset Strip since the hair metal days, so perhaps "dens of debauchery and vice" is my baseline expectation!


Quote from: Haffrung;1053406I'd be surprised if even 1 per cent of the people who went to a bar in my city last night went home with someone they met.

If your town has gay bars, that percentage is significantly higher! So sorry your town's straight dudes lack game!

jeff37923

Quote from: Motorskills;1053430Every hotel with side rooms is used for gaming AFAIK. Lucas Oil stadium was used for the first time a year or two ago and adds several hundred more tables.

Their trade hall could be twice the size and still would feel busy.

I think Gen Con has an excellent relationship with the city, plus Indiana is pretty geographically central, so I don't anticipate Gen Con relocating anytime soon, although it could certainly be justified.

Well, they did virtue signal and threaten to leave about 3 years ago.......
"Meh."

Motorskills

Quote from: jeff37923;1053450Well, they did virtue signal and threaten to leave about 3 years ago.......

[Since you quoted me]

The city (i.e. key business interests within the city, not least the convention center itself / hotels / restaurants, etc) were on Gen Con's side. The ordinance(?) was pushed by conservative / evangelical interests that are based in the more rural areas (which in Indiana is a lot of real estate).

But I'm also pretty sure it wasn't just Gen Con, other businesses / employers were threatening to leave / boycott the city. It wasn't much of a contest really, the bill was withdrawn pretty quickly, with coughed claims of it being overblown etc.

What made the thing more high-profile was that it was Mike Pence himself signing the ordinance, the circulation of the signing photo that showed just how loathsome the line-up of backers of the bill was, plus the fact that gamers cut across a fair few demographics and are social medi-savvy etc. But it wasn't the first case of its kind, IIRC the NCAA was going to boycott Charlotte or somesuch on similar grounds.
"Gosh it's so interesting (profoundly unsurprising) how men with all these opinions about women's differentiation between sexual misconduct, assault and rape reveal themselves to be utterly tone deaf and as a result, systemically part of the problem." - Minnie Driver, December 2017

" Using the phrase "virtue signalling" is \'I\'m a sociopath\' signalling ". J Wright, July 2018

jeff37923

Quote from: Motorskills;1053452[Since you quoted me]

The city (i.e. key business interests within the city, not least the convention center itself / hotels / restaurants, etc) were on Gen Con's side. The ordinance(?) was pushed by conservative / evangelical interests that are based in the more rural areas (which in Indiana is a lot of real estate).

But I'm also pretty sure it wasn't just Gen Con, other businesses / employers were threatening to leave / boycott the city. It wasn't much of a contest really, the bill was withdrawn pretty quickly, with coughed claims of it being overblown etc.

What made the thing more high-profile was that it was Mike Pence himself signing the ordinance, the circulation of the signing photo that showed just how loathsome the line-up of backers of the bill was, plus the fact that gamers cut across a fair few demographics and are social medi-savvy etc. But it wasn't the first case of its kind, IIRC the NCAA was going to boycott Charlotte or somesuch on similar grounds.

You need to read that whole linked thread and not whatever social justice synopsis of the event you looked up.

Why? Because the ordinance (Can you even name it?) wasn't being pushed by rural conservatives and evangelicals, it was being pushed by small businesses that didn't want to go through the same crap that Masterpiece Cakeshop is currently going through. GenCon was virtue signalling because they have a contract with the venue through 2020, and so had no intention to leave. Mike Pence was a nobody before the bill and not even in consideration for Vice President of the USA at the time.

Do your homework, fuck-o.
"Meh."