Quote from: TJS;1052629? ? ?

Loter included GenCon in the tweet he put out that he was hunting people to punch. Meaning that GenCon got a notification about his intentions.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1052631Loter included GenCon in the tweet he put out that he was hunting people to punch. Meaning that GenCon got a notification about his intentions.

Do you have a link?

That certainly puts a different spin on the situation.

Quote from: TJS;1052633That certainly puts a different spin on the situation.

LOL.

Quote from: wmarshal;1052602Imagine the following situation:
1. You're throwing a party at your house.

[video=youtube;SkTt9k4Y-a8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTt9k4Y-a8[/youtube]

Quote from: wmarshal;1052602Do you think it would be out of bounds (Orwellian/nanny state) for you to stop inviting Mr. R to your parties? That's what I believe some of us are asking of GenCon.

The party analogy doesn't work because I'm a private citizen hosting a private event. But not to quibble, let's assume I'm throwing a party for the public in a public venue. AKA, hosting a New Year's Eve gala at resort and anyone can buy a ticket.

In this case, I'm in a quandary. I am NOT taking responsibility for WTF my guests do outside my event. If they want to fight, fuck or write poetry, that's their problem. My business insurance doesn't cover stuff not at my event site. And in this case, I am a business making money hosting a public event to suck cash out of wallets, not further anyone's politics.

That said, the rest of my guests (and potential next year guests) are NOT going to be happy with me if I don't do something.

If I was GenCon, I'd spend cash on a lawyer to find out EXACTLY what are our company's legal rights and responsibilities in this situation. Once I had those concrete legal answers, I'd know what my public relation options would be, but foremost I would not want either Mr. R or Mr. D to have legal ground to come at me if I banned or not banned the attacker.

Quote from: TJS;1052611and there's some aspects that do seem strange - such as why the bar wouldn't seek police involvement for criminal damage to their window.

THAT is weird.

Quote from: WillInNewHaven;1052621(which is why I favor an electronic strike zone)

What is an electronic strike zone?

Does it involve EMP weapons?

Quote from: TJS;1052633Do you have a link?

That certainly puts a different spin on the situation.

I didn't save it and the little bugger is purging his twitter like a Clinton going through an email account.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1052640THAT is weird.

Apparently not that uncommon. Its been discussed on other forums where something happened at a bar and for whatever reason the cops arent called. And my aunt ran a bar. SHE beat up people.

Oft seems to be because the person ran and its more effort than its worth to file charges. Insurance will cover it or somesuch?
Could be the bar realized this was a con-goer and thus would be long gone even if identified. One con I mercifully missed had the hotel it was hosted at trashed and far as I can tell no charges were ever filed? Weird but such is.

Quote from: Omega;1052642Apparently not that uncommon. Its been discussed on other forums where something happened at a bar and for whatever reason the cops arent called. And my aunt ran a bar. SHE beat up people.

Oft seems to be because the person ran and its more effort than its worth to file charges. Insurance will cover it or somesuch?
Could be the bar realized this was a con-goer and thus would be long gone even if identified. One con I mercifully missed had the hotel it was hosted at trashed and far as I can tell no charges were ever filed? Weird but such is.

My mom owned and operated a bar back in the 60's. Still has the sawed off pool cue she used on "ruffians".

Quote from: TJS;1052633Do you have a link?

That certainly puts a different spin on the situation.

Here is an image of his tweet before he started flushing everything down the memory hole. Please note that he is emphasizing that he is not joking by noting this is "Real talk".

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Quote from: wmarshal;1052663Here is an image of his tweet before he started flushing everything down the memory hole. Please note that he is emphasizing that he is not joking by noting this is "Real talk".

snip (because directly above)

That's the tweet we already discussed.  It's clearly not the one Warboss Squee was talking about.

Quote from: TJS;1052665That's the tweet we already discussed.  It's clearly not the one Warboss Squee was talking about.

No it's not. Unfortunately, I can't find the one I am. Boils down to him stating that his was going to beat the shit out any nazis he found.

Quote from: Omega;1052260He hit him hard enough to break Hambleys glasses and burst blood vessels in one of his eyes.

Not sure about the glasses, but the eye injury is pretty apparent now, and it's crazy to think he'd attempt to fake that.

Quote from: soltakss;1052566To be fair, the incident happend in a bar outside GenCon, so they wouldn't really have any grounds on banning people.

Yeah they do, as their Code of Conduct does not differentiate where harm done to and by their attendees takes place. However the alleged assailant did not show up on the con floor after the attack, which means GenCon didn't have a chance to enforce a ban even if they instituted one.

Quote from: soltakss;1052570In the UK, everything is "alleged" until it is taken to court and then proven or not.

It's the same on this side of the pond. But as the #CtrlLeft likes to remind us, a convention isn't a court of law, and can ban whoever they want, including those who have only allegedly done something.

Quote from: Almost_Useless;1052572I could have sworn we've seen cons banning people for all kinds of things that didn't happen at their con.

They've been banning people from attending cons for things which didn't even take place in the same state, let alone previous event.

Quote from: TJS;1052616and the video isn't particularly strong either - is the event in 2004 a real event or a joke

If it's real, then he should have been banned a long time ago.

If it's a joke, then he should still have been banned a long time ago because he doesn't consider this kind of violence against con attendees to be a problem.

Seriously, would you want someone who jokes about assaulting attendees to attend your convention?

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1052631Loter included GenCon in the tweet he put out that he was hunting people to punch. Meaning that GenCon got a notification about his intentions.

Now that would have been the silver bullet. Shame you didn't archive it.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1052687Not sure about the glasses, but the eye injury is pretty apparent now, and it's crazy to think he'd attempt to fake that.

People self-harming to fake an attack is not without precedent.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/05/woman-accused-of-faking-rape-bids-to-clear-name-layla-ibrahim

I think it's more likely that the attack took place as described, but just to point that out.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1052693People self-harming to fake an attack is not without precedent.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/05/woman-accused-of-faking-rape-bids-to-clear-name-layla-ibrahim

I think it's more likely that the attack took place as described, but just to point that out.

I just noticed you have Warduke in your avatar. That alone makes what you say truth.

Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1052703I just noticed you have Warduke in your avatar. That alone makes what you say truth.

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Over on BGG the thread about its been closed because it was "hopelessly derailed" with a disturbing number over there siding with the attacker. New thread on the subject moved to RSnP to discuss things like the word hysterical being misogynistic. No. Im not joking. Which drew out this little gem.

QuoteSo basically, it was akin to all the people who whine about SJWs, triggered liberals that need safe places, blah, blah, blah.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2039001/are-game-conventions-now-going-become-war-zones-rs