Youtuber violently assaulted at Gencon by sjw

Ras Algethi · August 10, 2018, 04:54:11 PM

There has to be some irony about those who would bemoan McCarthyism, and the hunt for Communists, but embrace the idea of shaming, doxing, geting them fired, punching, et all folks they label as Nazis.

HappyDaze · August 10, 2018, 05:10:01 PM

Quote from: Baron Opal;1052474Two assholes met in a bar, and one allegedly sucker-punched the another.

Correction: One asshole was informed of the location of the other asshole and deliberately sought him out for sucker-punching after having Tweeted about looking for this fight.

That's not a fear-motivated incident.

wmarshal · August 10, 2018, 05:31:56 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1052482Correction: One asshole was informed of the location of the other asshole and deliberately sought him out for sucker-punching after having Tweeted about looking for this fight.

That's not a fear-motivated incident.

Come on, now. Surely Matt Loter is the true victim in all this. Due to all that generalized fear of Nazis he has. Regardless of whether the person he punched was a Nazi or not. What about his feelings?

(Apologies in advance if this attempt at sarcasm fell flat. It's not my best rhetorical form.)

Larsdangly · August 10, 2018, 05:58:00 PM

Perhaps people are aware of this already, but apparently Loter was removed from his position as a part time professor at Quinnipiac University.

Joey2k · August 10, 2018, 06:07:33 PM

Quote from: Larsdangly;1052484Perhaps people are aware of this already, but apparently Loter was removed from his position as a part time professor at Quinnipiac University.

Wonder if he actually thought there wouldn't be any consequences and he would be lauded as some kind of hero

Baron Opal · August 10, 2018, 06:08:13 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze;1052482Correction: One asshole was informed of the location of the other asshole and deliberately sought him out for sucker-punching after having Tweeted about looking for this fight.

That's not a fear-motivated incident.

No, it's not. I was referring to internet commentary.

Larsdangly · August 10, 2018, 06:59:32 PM

I think people should relax and move on. This was one of thousands of assaults that happened that day; the victim was relatively unharmed; the perp is identified, has already been fired and will likely be prosecuted. The only things that are noteworthy is that it happened in our community and was motivated by the escalated, anti-social dialogue we are having about cultural politics. If you put a bunch of shaved monkeys (I.e., us) in a confined space and stir them up into a frenzy of personal attacks and arguments, some of the monkeys will bite. The biters should get the hose when they do it, but don't be surprised that it happened.

EOTB · August 10, 2018, 07:04:45 PM

Quote from: Larsdangly;1052488If you put a bunch of shaved monkeys (I.e., us) in a confined space and stir them up into a frenzy of personal attacks and arguments, some of the monkeys will bite.

New ad copy for Gencon.

S'mon · August 10, 2018, 07:39:16 PM

Quote from: Larsdangly;1052488I think people should relax and move on. This was one of thousands of assaults that happened that day; the victim was relatively unharmed; the perp is identified, has already been fired and will likely be prosecuted.

I'm sure you say that whenever a Nazi attacks a left-wing Youtube commenter.

jhkim · August 10, 2018, 07:54:37 PM

Quote from: Mistwell;1052350Daily Wire picks up story.

Daily Caller picks up story.

Campus Reform picks up story.

Brietbart picks up story.

Campus Reform independently verified the Police are investigating and the police report, and that Gen Con is investigating. A couple of the above articles quote a witness statement as well.

Thanks, Mistwell. I hope the prosecution proceeds and this is settled. One thing that was odd to me was this from the Daily Caller story -

Quote"When the defendant stated that he was, in fact, Jeremy Hambly, [Loter] then proceeded to punch the defendant in the head while screaming, 'I'm going to fucking kill you,'" one witness said, according to a statement Hambly sent to The Daily Caller News Foundation.

"It took four people to pry him off ... then he punched a window and ran off," Hambly told Campus Reform.

So it is quoting a witness, but the witness quote is itself from a statement sent by Hambly. What I would hope for in a news article is for them to talk to the witnesses and get their account(s) independently. Witness accounts are real evidence, but how reliable they are varies. In the articles linked, I don't have a good understanding of who the witnesses are - or even how many there are - and what their separate accounts are.

crkrueger · August 10, 2018, 08:42:17 PM

"I'm going to fucking kill you!"

Nice way to turn an assault and battery charge into Attempted Murder.

Omega · August 10, 2018, 08:49:16 PM

Quote from: jeff37923;1052424Goddamn, I'm seeing some people I respect on the "Punch A Nazi" side of that discussion.

EDIT: Seriously, what happened? Did the Brain Eater get them?

Its because the "Punch anyone who disagrees with us" side has been spin doctoring all this to paint Hamblin and everyone else as a horrible person who totally deserves it. And then others read it and believe it and even when confronted with the facts they disbelieve and carry on because oh noes! the poor oppresseded womenens and minorities!

Omega · August 10, 2018, 08:55:35 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;1052427Unfortunately, things aren't going to change until the SJWs kill a "Nazi", ie. some Geek like them who has different opinions without being an "ist" of any sort. At this point the True Believers will say they had it coming and sane Liberals might start to realize that they have a Fundamentalist Cult in their house.

Then again, that never seemed to faze the Conservatives.

Or the SJWs will just claim the killer "wasnt really one of us. No honestly! He wasnt! Ignore us applauding his actions over here." Or theyd just paint the victem as an even more horrible person, with lots of "evidence" to back it.

And if it isnt the SJWs then its the damn Prude Patrol back at it again. It is cyclic at this point.

Omega · August 10, 2018, 08:57:40 PM

Quote from: Brad;1052428Wasted five minutes reading that drivel. It's hard to take anyone seriously when they insist the whole thing was an elaborate ruse to fleece some nerds out of $12k or whatever. You could easily make three or four times that much by Kickstarting some social justice rpg you have no intent of ever actually producing.

Which is what the attacker essentially did.

Omega · August 10, 2018, 09:06:55 PM

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1052480There has to be some irony about those who would bemoan McCarthyism, and the hunt for Communists, but embrace the idea of shaming, doxing, geting them fired, punching, et all folks they label as Nazis.

Thats because these SJWs are the new Nazis. They use the same rhetoric and tactics. Replace "Punch a Nazi" with "Punch a Jew". My grandparents lived through this stuff and would have called these SJWs exactly what they are.