Youtuber violently assaulted at Gencon by sjw

Ratman_tf · August 07, 2018, 11:39:51 PM

Quote from: Koltar;1052020WTF = How in the heck did the 'cosplay' tangent get started in the first place in a thread about an assault or bar fight at Gen Con?
Just wondering....

- Ed C.

Cliff notes: The person claiming to be assaulted (Hambly) made some (one?) video critical of a Magic, The Gathering cosplayer. (Christie Sprankles) He was subsequently banned from the MTG community, including official events, for claimed harassment of said cosplayer, via the aforementioned video comments. This series of events was a point of contention for the MTG community, and made Hambly a minor internet e-celebrity.

jeff37923 · August 07, 2018, 11:40:21 PM

Quote from: Koltar;1052020Feels weird Jeff defending or sticking up for me - but its very cool.
- Ed C.

I give you shit out of an abundance of brotherly love.

Warboss Squee · August 07, 2018, 11:43:41 PM

Quote from: Omega;1052010Let us know when you have something meaningful to contribute.

Context, Omega.

Ratman_tf · August 07, 2018, 11:44:38 PM

Quote from: Motorskills;1052023Probably, yeah?

Certainly TBP has a decent number.

By some reports, the number of women driven off by RPG.net's moderation policies is not zero.

Motorskills · August 07, 2018, 11:46:15 PM

Quote from: Koltar;1052024By-the-way, the characters of Rey and Jyn Erso in the recent Star Wars movies seems to have encouraged more women and girls to dress up as action oriented characters at Gen Con. The number of 'sexy elvish princesses' and 'sexy evil queens' has significantly decreased compared to 10 or 12 years ago.

- Ed C.

I'd agree with that, and argue that it is fantastic development. Those two alone are real characters with significant depth of personality, I'm not surprised they have caught on.

There were a bunch of other female cosplayed characters that I saw that appeared to have...heft(?), but I mostly had no idea who they were.

@koltar - as for the rest, you'd agree that just walking around, there was a significant minority of women at Gen Con, maybe 25%?

Orphan81 · August 08, 2018, 12:01:56 AM

Quote from: Motorskills;1052023Probably, yeah?

Certainly TBP has a decent number.

But let's use real numbers. @Koltar can back me up here, I would think. I estimate approximately somewhere between 10 and 30% of attendees at Gen Con were women. I saw quite a few female GMs but only had one myself.

My RPGs were:
1 x Delta Green 2017 hybrid (3/7 women)
1 x Delta Green 2017 straight (0/7 women)
1 x SandalPunk (2/7 women)
1 x Fall of Delta Green (1/7 women)
1 x Cypher system (3/5 women, plus female GM)
1 CoC 7e (4/6 women)
1 x Gumshoe Hybrid (2/7 women)
1 x Dark Eye (1/5 Woman)

I think those are pretty typical numbers, based on what I saw, running from event to event.

I saw a lot of cosplayers, but that was more a factor of headcount than percentage, maybe 1/50?
I don't recall seeing any that were provocatively dressed, they all seemed to be dressing for themselves to have fun. More power to them.

Notice I didn't say as opposed to female gamers in general... I spoke of the ones who visit rpg forums... which is a small number in the first place. The big purple is the largest rpg forum on the internet, and even it's number of regular female users was still a small percentage compared to the male users... I'm sure it's different now, but that's because it's usage in general is much smaller than it was during it's height.

Warboss Squee · August 08, 2018, 12:05:20 AM

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1052028By some reports, the number of women driven off by RPG.net's moderation policies is not zero.

If that were true, TBP wouldn't be the staunch defenders of womankind in gaming, and we all know that's not the case.

Alderaan Crumbs · August 08, 2018, 12:06:36 AM

Quote from: Omega;1051994Get one of those hats with the bobble post and affix the photo to it?

I just might, Mr. Good Idea!

Spinachcat · August 08, 2018, 12:29:14 AM

Quote from: tenbones;1051983In a *bazillion* years I'd never have imagined some wannabe tatted up gaming-gangster would take themselves so seriously as to roll up on someone and physically attack them.

Doesn't surprise me much.

I DM'd cons in the early 80s and I saw teenagers freak the fuck out over a PC dying and make it physical.

We had the occasionally fight in our high school gaming club too. We banned Diplomacy because of guys throwing down.

Back then, I chocked it up to teenage hormones and males dealing with competition. AKA, we were gonna wail on each other over something, thus anything became an excuse.

However, Jackass McFuckstick isn't a teenager anymore, but maybe he's a steroid junkie high on his own virtue fumes. I've seen older gym bros lose their shit over sports team nonsense so its not shocking some males would lose their sense over something equally meaningless like politics.

Quote from: Koltar;1052020The two costumes were my "Klingon Santa" outfit (Vav QISmaS) and my Klingon clergy or magistrate garb for when I officiated at Klingon weddings.

Post pics please!!

WillInNewHaven · August 08, 2018, 01:27:52 AM

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1051954His opinion was unsolicited.

Legitimate press outlets ask permission before going forward with an article or a video.

And no. I don't consider dirt sheets like the National Enquirer legitimate.

He didn't ask her permission. So it was harassment.

Do you think I asked permission before I did movie reviews for a newspaper? That's may be most idiotic thing anyone has said on this thread. What she did was a performance and everyone has a right to review a performance. Claiming that she was a professional means that reviewers didn't even owe her the kindness that one owes to an amateur.

WillInNewHaven · August 08, 2018, 01:37:54 AM

Quote from: The_Shadow;1052002Nice comeuppance fantasy, but I'm pretty sure that even in the damaged brainstem of this thug there are enough neurons devoted to "select only milquetoast geeks to sucker punch".

Mebbe, mebbe not. He's a martial arts instructor and he thinks he's pretty bad. He was always pleasant to me in his store but I was a customer.

S'mon · August 08, 2018, 02:47:29 AM

Quote from: Motorskills;1052023Probably, yeah?

Certainly TBP has a decent number.

Son... those ain't women.

jeff37923 · August 08, 2018, 03:05:40 AM

More calls for increased violence against Hambly.

TJS · August 08, 2018, 03:20:30 AM

Quote from: jeff37923;1052053More calls for increased violence against Hambly.

FFS!

Leaving aside the morality of that for a moment...has it worked? Has being punched actually silenced the guy? Or if the goal was to silence him, has it backfired badly and generated massive publicity for him?

From the basic standpoint of actually achieving your goals it should be obvious that it's a stupid move.

Warboss Squee · August 08, 2018, 03:28:32 AM

Quote from: TJS;1052055FFS!

Leaving aside the morality of that for a moment...has it worked? Has being punched actually silenced the guy? Or if the goal was to silence him, has it backfired badly and generated massive publicity for him?

From the basic standpoint of actually achieving your goals it should be obvious that it's a stupid move.

I think they idea is that enough people go after him, somebody will finish the job.

Personally, I wish them good luck, because once words get thrown out, these idiots are screwed. Calls to incite violence are a crime, and given that people love to collude, you might even get a conspiracy charge in there as well.