Quote from: Diffan;1051275Actually he was banned for continued harassment of a cosplayer.

AIR the alleged 'harassment' was online disagreement. Which I know in SJW World is a jailable offence, but your post was misleading.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1051277I am VERY concerned about the number of people who approve of the violence.

This is what happens when the media say it's ok to punch an actual Nazi - soon the socjus scum are punching anyone who disagrees with them, and anyone who got punched must be a Nazi by definition.

Quote from: S'mon;1051281AIR the alleged 'harassment' was online disagreement. Which I know in SJW World is a jailable offence, but your post was misleading.

Yeah a company perma-banned a guy for a trivial online disagreement.....

And I don't think he should've been attacked. That's the problem with kicking a piece of shit, it ends up still on your shoe. Ignore it and move on.

Quote from: Diffan;1051285Yeah a company perma-banned a guy for a trivial online disagreement.....

Yup. That kind of thing is what happens now. Hell people have been prosecuted for trivial online disagreements.

Who would have thought self-appointed nazi punchers would simply decide they could punch random people they disliked?

A ton of historical experience about mob rule?

That can't be it. Surely this time is different, and only the bad people will get punched.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1051277Ok...I read a bunch of the comment sections about this incident.

I am VERY concerned about the number of people who approve of the violence.

Denouncing your political opponents is a gazillion percent fine, even with mega-vitriol, but supporting physical attacks on people who vote differently? WTF.

Yeah it's disgusting.

Quote from: Diffan;1051275Actually he was banned for continued harassment of a cosplayer. Banned in every single capacity from all Magic: the Gathering events. The guy is a piece of shit.

No, it wasn't continued.  It was also just pointing how scummy it was to ask for Patreon money for effectively doing nothing, because she was tired of cosplaying, with some made up story that gamers LIKE YOU AND I are monsters.  Then gets rehired by MTG anyway.

And he didn't just get banned, he had his entire online collection of MTG product 'confiscated' without recompense.  Thousands of dollars worth, all because he didn't like that this young lady decided to effectively prostitute herself via patreon.

Quote from: Diffan;1051285Yeah a company perma-banned a guy for a trivial online disagreement.....

Oh, yes, they do.  Look up James Damore, who simply wanted to get women INTO tech, but they posted an INTERNAL memo he made publicly so the world can socially lynch him.  Then Google fired him after twisting his words.

Quote from: S'mon;1051283This is what happens when the media say it's ok to punch an actual Nazi - soon the socjus scum are punching anyone who disagrees with them, and anyone who got punched must be a Nazi by definition.

Precisely, the most extreme wing of the "progressive" movement has already moved into full fascist mode, considering violence a perfectly legitimate tool to achieve political ends. "Nazis" are fair game, and in their definition, anyone who disagrees with them is a "Nazi" by default.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1051290Oh, yes, they do.  Look up James Damore, who simply wanted to get women INTO tech, but they posted an INTERNAL memo he made publicly so the world can socially lynch him.  Then Google fired him after twisting his words.

You mean the guy who said women have a biologically stronger interest in people rather than things, and tending to be more social, artistic, and prone to neuroticism?

Fuck outta here....

Quote from: Diffan;1051293You mean the guy who said women have a biologically stronger interest in people rather than things, and tending to be more social, artistic, and prone to neuroticism?

Fuck outta here....

And all of that, Science has known for decades.  If you'll let go off the reservation for a bit, it's the reason women are in retail manning the cashes and the men in retail are in the back doing inventory, despite the scientific fact that women have better organizational skills than men, but men have better computational skill.  But because women are naturally more social, the big retail businesses like Macy's and now Walmart put them in the people jobs, because psychologically, both men and women find a woman serving them to be more soothing.  So they put the men where no one can see them, in the back with the boxes.

Everything he said, everything he laid out is well known facts that no one on the political left wants to hear, because it means that women cannot be men.  And I don't know about you, I like women being women!  If I wanted men, I'd be gay.  But I am not.

But because Feminism actually rules the West with an iron fist, with its Marxist/Post-Modernist bullshit that every one can do everything, there are no losers, no stupid people, all potential geniuses, we get extreme reactions like 'The Quartering' being assaulted by an idiot who thinks he has moral superiority.

Sorry Chief, but having an opinion is not a crime.  This was a nothing burger that the Cosplayer that got upset at his opinion decided to sic public opinion on him.  I'll be honest with you, I don't like The Quartering, I find him smarmy and self-righteous, but unlike most of the extreme leftist alt-lifestyle freaks, he actually provides PROOF, EVIDENCE, unless he states it as opinion.

And here's the facts to what happened.  A man assaulted another at the Geneva Convention, which in American Law is a crime.

Quote from: Diffan;1051293You mean the guy who said women have a biologically stronger interest in people rather than things, and tending to be more social, artistic, and prone to neuroticism?

You're free to disagree (although AFAICT the evidence weighs heavily against you), but if you think saying that in a private memo is either a valid firing offence or merits physical attack, then you're a morally worthless human being.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1051294but men have better computational skill

I don't want to detract from your main point, but I have worked in and know the literature on mathematical ability as it differs between the sexes. No metastudy has ever really shown a clear difference. Now there are other psychological traits that do show a divergence and several physical ones (beyond the obvious ones like men are physically stronger) such as women being able to distinguish colours better because the colour discrimination gene is carried on the X chromosome. However for mathematics it's not the case.

There was a paper that did the rounds in popular media a few years back where the authors found that although the average mathematical ability was the same between sexes, men had more outliers (i.e. more who were terrible and more who were excellent), but this disappeared with better statistical controls and further metastudies haven't backed it up.

Unless by calculational ability you mean something besides pure mathematical capability.

I should say of course attacking the guy is not on.

Quote from: S'mon;1051298You're free to disagree (although AFAICT the evidence weighs heavily against you), but if you think saying that in a private memo is either a valid firing offence or merits physical attack, then you're a morally worthless human being.

Whether or not it's a fireable offense is up to the company that makes the policies not me. And I already said it didn't warrant an attack.

Quote from: Diffan;1051302Whether or not it's a fireable offense is up to the company that makes the policies not me.

OK: if you think saying that in a private memo is something a company SHOULD fire someone for, then...

Edit: It wasn't a company 'policy' BTW, it was an arbitrary decision by a Google bigwig whose feelings were apparently hurt.

Back to the OP ...

In my opinion, it is never OK to assault someone, except in self defence.

There are a lot of people whose views I don't agree with, but that does not give me any right to assault them.

I am, of course, a wishy-washy liberal in the UK, which probably makes me quite lefty on the US scale, but I am pretty much against violence in real life, so am appalled that such a thing would happen at a games convention. You would think that games cons nowadays would have a policy regarding harrassment and assault. I take people's word that the alleged perpetrator has been defended, or not punished, by the games con organisors. Although "innocent until proven guilty" is a principle of the western world, it looks as though the alleged perpertrator should have at least been banned from the con. Trial by Internet seems to have already started, though, which is a shame.