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Would you play in a setting where homosexuality was the norm?

Started by Joey2k, April 10, 2008, 10:44:11 AM

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Acta Est Fabula

Like others have said, I probably wouldn't be adverse to playing a game like that, but I probably wouldn't play it just for the sake of playing it.  There's got to be a lot more to get me intrigued and captured in the game.

And as someone else mentioned, the jokes would probably get old quick.  The whole "morning cums, make a dex check" meme is a big pet peeve of mine anyway.  I sure don't need that followed with, "That makes one more thing that came all over your character Cassidy. Har Har."
 

KenHR

Quote from: DwightI still think you are reading sexual politics into it when that isn't necessary. Not that one doesn't come with the other.

The original post touches on the politics.  Politics are about people interacting with people.  I'm not using the term in the sense you seem to be thinking of it.  From the American Heritage Dictionary I have in my bag: "The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society."  That's what I'm referring to with the word "politics."

And that's that.  I'm sorry, but I'm not going to quibble over this and derail the thread.  I know you get off on doing that, but I'm not following.
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Quote from: KenHRThe original post touches on the politics.  Politics are about people interacting with people.  I'm not using the term in the sense you seem to be thinking of it.  From the American Heritage Dictionary I have in my bag: "The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society."  That's what I'm referring to with the word "politics."

And that's that.  I'm sorry, but I'm not going to quibble over this and derail the thread.  I know you get off on doing that, but I'm not following.
The first one has Reproduction stamped all over it. The others? You just need to follow logically from that former-anthro-student-plausibility-alarm. Why is it like this? Reproduction problems or quirks and the politics that fall from that is high on the possible list.
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As others have said, if it were just an incidental element of the setting, I would not be averse to it. Playing opposite sex, gender, or orientation doesn't bother me.

Also as others have said, if it's an agenda-based or lesson-based game, where the GM is trying to make a point, then I'll roll my eyes and sigh.

Personally, I think concepts such as "straight", "gay", or "bisexual" and illusory labels anyway. You should choose each partner based on what you're looking for in a partner at that time, not what club you belong to. Also, what lifestyle you choose to lead should not be determined by the sex/gender of your partner. [HIPPIE VOICE] They're all just LABELS, man!! So, like chill out![/HIPPIE VOICE]

Also personally, I can't stand it when players in my groups attempt to play a gay character. It invariably devolves into "La la" and "hey, tiger!" stereotypical flamboyance. I suppose they're having fun playing the character they wanted to play, and it's not hurting anyone. I just wish that if they wanted to play a gay character, they'd have tried to do so in a non-stereotypical fashion.

Actually, in our current D&D game, we've talked about the sexual proclivities of one of the characters. What's interesting is that the player is intentionally and deliberately coy about his character's choice in sexual partners, creating a deliberate sense of ambiguity. What's most interesting is that the player is a fairly homophobic (or at least pretty judgemental) former Marine. He's doing an excellent job of playing an ambiguously gay character, who may or may not be, who knows? Really, it's none of our (characters or players) business. I just love that the player is going out of his way to play that up.
 

J Arcane

I have fuckall interest in playing out any kind sexual pursuit in my games, so at the end of the day, it really doesn't bloody matter what sexuality they are.  I can't think of the last character I had where it really mattered at all beyond faint flavor text whether they were male, female, gay, straight, prone to molesting sea creatures or whatever, because it mattered fuck all to the game.

Now, if you're talking about making it matter to the game, then I'm not interested in that game.
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Grimjack

Wasn't this the issue with Blue Rose?  The mechanics were good but people couldn't identify with the setting?

I don't think it would bother me but focusing that much on the sexual aspects seems unnecessary IMHO so I would question why the GM put such an emphasis on coming up with it.  If it was just to shock or to teach tolerance or something like that then I would politely pass.  I want entertainment from RPG's and not life lessons.
 

Anemone

The setting described in the OP doesn't disturb me, or squick me, or otherwise repel or scare me, but it also doesn't interest me.  Like many game setting descriptions, this lacks the "What do PCs DO?" portion.  Now take Dwight's Logan Run twist and you already have something more to do (Survive Lastday!)  With his addition of Boy George and Depeche Mode aesthetics, I think Logan's Shadowrun and now I have something to do...  :D
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Quote from: AnemoneThe setting described in the OP doesn't disturb me, or squick me, or otherwise repel or scare me, but it also doesn't interest me.  Like many game setting descriptions, this lacks the "What do PCs DO?" portion.  Now take Dwight's Logan Run twist and you already have something more to do (Survive Lastday!)  With his addition of Boy George and Depeche Mode aesthetics, I think Logan's Shadowrun and now I have something to do...  :D

Exactly! Nice post Anemone. :D

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Like others have said, depends on what the game is about. If it's just a bunch of dudes having out, being gay for each other, no, not really. If my character being gay comes up as often as my character being straight has come up in past games - do you love my puns, or what? - then no big deal.

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David R

A setting where homosexuality is the norm ? *shrug* I'd run a game in a setting like that. Hell, I run games in settings were heterosexuality is the norm and the adventures don't revolve around sex.

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pspahn

Quote from: James McMurrayI have a hard time picturing a reason for a GM to suggest a setting like this beyond wanting to teach me some sort of lesson, so it's doubtful. If the whole campaign will revolve around it, definitely not. But if it's just a quirk to an otherwise fun sounding campaign I'd give it a try.
Me too, but I agree it sounds like an agenda RPG.  

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I would not rule the game out if homosexuality was a part of the game but if it was some sort of overreaching theme, no, I would not. Homosexuality is present in all cultures in some form, so I don't find it a negative thing to have it included in some way in any game. Heck, if someone wanted to play a gay half-orc in my D&D game I'm not likely to tell them no unless its just annoying bit. I would never run a game where the who gaming world basically hinges on homosexuality, it just doesn't make any sense to me. In such a society, in my estimation, the people would just evolve reproductively to the point where there could be no such thing as homosexuality or they would just become extinct.

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Quote from: David RHell, I run games in settings were heterosexuality is the norm

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Quote from: pspahnMe too, but I agree it sounds like an agenda RPG.
Define "agenda".

I've had players object to playing in Tékumel because there are no caucasian or blonde people.

I've had players object to playing Amber because the royalty of Amber, the "true" reality of humanity, are all white.

I've heard people complain that in the setting for Greg Stolze's Reign all men are inferior riders to women because they insist on riding horses sidesaddle to avoid crushing their gonads.

Hell, I've heard complaints about Shadowrun because the emergence of elves, dwarves, orcs, and trolls is both a heavy-handed means of addressing and yet side-stepping real issues of race relations.

So define "agenda".  It certainly wouldn't be the first time agenda has been introduced to roleplaying in order to ratchet up the action.  In fact, I'd suggest that it's usually present in some form or another to do just that.

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Why do people keep saying this....

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