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Would you be more likely to buy into 5e if...

Started by RPGPundit, August 02, 2012, 10:27:38 PM

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Benoist

#150
August 19, 2012, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Imp;573648something has to be different about it or else you just reprint BECMI and start writing splats.

Fuck yes! I wish they'd reprint B/X as core D&D.

Rum Cove

#151
August 19, 2012, 04:01:48 PM
Quote from: Imp;573648something has to be different about it or else you just reprint BECMI and start writing splats.

That is exactly what should be done.  It worked in 1991 with the Rules Cyclopedia, which is still a hot ticket item.

Switch to Ascending AC, remove saving throws and whatever else is too big of a stumbling block to make it compatible with the future modules.  Combat Superiority dice, Advantage and every other 5e-ism are completely unnecessary in the core as they are catering to the wrong crowd.

Imp

#152
August 19, 2012, 04:18:58 PM
Quote from: Benoist;573650Fuck yes! I wish they'd reprint B/X as core D&D.

Okay, but... why would you buy it then? Just for a fresh book? You have B/X already, yes? Are you even in the market for a new version of D&D?

Rum Cove

#153
August 19, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
Quote from: Imp;573665Okay, but... why would you buy it then? Just for a fresh book? You have B/X already, yes? Are you even in the market for a new version of D&D?

Because the DnD Next designers claimed that the system would allow someone using a Basic style character to sit at the same table and play next to a 3e style player.

Sacrosanct

#154
August 19, 2012, 04:25:28 PM
Quote from: Imp;573665Okay, but... why would you buy it then? Just for a fresh book? You have B/X already, yes? Are you even in the market for a new version of D&D?

Well, it wouldn't be exactly B/X.  I think he's getting at making it in the same format as B/X.  Which I agree with as well.

I have a thread below where we playtested last night, and I can easily see how if you get rid of combat superiority and advantages and keep the game streamlined, it very well could be done like B/X and I would totally buy it.

As is, based on my playtesting experience, I might buy 5e anyway because the things I don't like are easily ignored or changed to fit my preferences.
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Benoist

#155
August 19, 2012, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: Imp;573665Okay, but... why would you buy it then? Just for a fresh book? You have B/X already, yes? Are you even in the market for a new version of D&D?

I was in the market for the AD&D reprints, and I would absolutely support a reprint of B/X. And buy whatever support there'd be for the game in print.

Marleycat

#156
August 19, 2012, 05:44:38 PM Last Edit: August 19, 2012, 05:48:32 PM by Marleycat
Quote from: Sacrosanct;573670Well, it wouldn't be exactly B/X.  I think he's getting at making it in the same format as B/X.  Which I agree with as well.

I have a thread below where we playtested last night, and I can easily see how if you get rid of combat superiority and advantages and keep the game streamlined, it very well could be done like B/X and I would totally buy it.

As is, based on my playtesting experience, I might buy 5e anyway because the things I don't like are easily ignored or changed to fit my preferences.

This is where I'm at. They are almost there but that last jump is risky. Just greybox your 3/4e stuff and give me options to change the 5e stuff like healing.  It's all good then.
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Shawn Driscoll

#157
August 19, 2012, 07:55:43 PM
Why even do a 5e version?  Was there ever a 4e Basic edition?  Then buyers could add the full-on 4e version stuff to it.  Ok, that would confuse buyers if 4e was in the name for both versions.

flyingcircus

#158
August 24, 2012, 08:35:30 PM
I just got a hold of the playtest packet for this and wow, it looks like 1e, with some 2e sprinkled with a little 3e and some 4e concepts for taste, I just don't get it, is this really what the 3rd edition crowd was crying for?  Looks more like they are trying to grab the Retro-Clone crowd not the 3e supporters to me, IMO I think they should have just kept steaming ahead with 4e and just did what they were doing printing new 1E and 3.5E books side-by-side the 4E stuff.

It just doesn't grab me.:idunno:
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JRR

#159
August 25, 2012, 12:01:46 AM
As a diehard 1e fan, I haven't seen anything that would make me want to play 53.  Looks like a 4e/3e mashup to me.

Sacrosanct

#160
August 25, 2012, 12:21:49 AM
Quote from: JRR;576394As a diehard 1e fan, I haven't seen anything that would make me want to play 53.  Looks like a 4e/3e mashup to me.

That was my initial impression at first as well, until I played it.  We were able to play it almost exactly like we played our 1e campaigns.  We didn't use minis or maps, and didn't worry about exact movement, AoO, or anything like that.

I  might not be as diehard 1e fan as you or Benoist, but it's the primary edition we continue to play since it came out.  So yeah, I'm a fan.  And I was actually impressed about how similar it played.  The main issues I had with it were easily houseruled away with little problems.
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flyingcircus

#161
August 26, 2012, 09:22:34 AM
Quote from: danskmacabre;568037I don't think any changes to DnD will make me buy it really, I'm tired of DnD in any incarnation.
That doesn't mean I won't change my mind at some stage in the future, but as things stand, no thanks.

Same here.
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