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WOTC's big mistake - Giving us a survey

Started by Cathode Ray, March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM

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Ruprecht

I could be wrong but I've always had the impression that surveys like this are about messaging, not actually changing things.
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Mistwell

Quote from: RNGm on March 13, 2024, 09:35:54 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on March 13, 2024, 01:10:21 AM
Quote from: RNGm on March 12, 2024, 09:52:38 PM
Is there any proof that this is a survey done by WOTC instead of just a random joe setting it up?

It's a fair question but yes, this is from WOTC. alchemer is what they use for these.

I'll take your word on that but is there proof that *THIS* survey is from WOTC?  I assume that WOTC wouldn't be the only company/legal entity/person using the service.  Is there a link on an official WOTC webpage asking for the feedback or a screenshot from supposedly private playtest communications asking for it?   How did this link first appear/get noticed?  I don't have any problem with random people conducting their own poll (and answered it myself) but was just curious in my typically skeptical way.

@Cathode Ray   How did you first come across that link to the survey if you don't mind me asking?

Came from the WOTC DNDBeyond official twitter account?

https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1767243625480458456

RNGm

Quote from: Mistwell on March 13, 2024, 10:16:52 PM
Came from the WOTC DNDBeyond official twitter account?

https://twitter.com/DnDBeyond/status/1767243625480458456

Thanks!  I stand corrected then and my skepticism wasn't warranted.  I'm genuinely surprised that they'd even bother to ask regardless of whether or not they actually use the results for anything.

Thor's Nads

Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey

They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.

Well, that was quick and easy.

Do you love D&D? Yes!
Do you hate WotC? Yes!
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honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 13, 2024, 08:00:48 PM
I answered neutral opinion and had not recommended in more than year and did not like their current direction for both. My thinking is that if they think they could have had a customer if not for their current direction, it will improve the odds of them paying attention by 0.001%

Best feedback is being negative on D&D Beyond Forums so when they run a job to scan for sentiment it comes up negative, that will get forwarded to WotC and Hasbro heads.  Of course the race marxists are the forum mods and my god will they ban you like mad.  I actually have sent my ban email and reason why to a social medial person and they posted because it was so egregious it was hillarious for the ban reason.  Now, I lampoon D&D and push them to do really stupid things for fun.  Its fun watching the idiots bite and support for example "just remove the lore, its so much better for the DM to be creative, why can't we have demons that want to create life and restore order, its all about creativity and it saves the DM so much time to be able to do what they want, destroy the old lore and rules".  Essentially anything that makes it harder to play and run the game, I put out retarded takes and the retards on D&D Beyond support it.  I figure the best way to get rid of the race marxists is to push those fuckers off the cliff.  I was a little tiny bit of the last purge of 2,000 employees, lets hope I'm a little tiny bit of the next purge of 2,000 employees, fuck em.  Give WotC bad feedback and egg them on to their death.

Opaopajr

Quote from: Thor's Nads on March 13, 2024, 10:59:29 PM
Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey

They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.

Well, that was quick and easy.

Do you love D&D? Yes!
Do you hate WotC? Yes!

:D You too?
;D Me too!
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jeff37923

Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
"Meh."

Omega

Quote from: Cathode Ray on March 12, 2024, 07:47:07 PM
This is a big mistake, because many of us will tell Wizards of the Woke exactly what we think.
https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/7750520/2024-Q1-Community-Survey

They're pretty cowardly, in my opinion, because there are no places for essay questions.

No. This is what they want. They will look at what people want and then do the exact opposite to garner outrage marketing.

Cathode Ray

Quote from: RNGm on March 13, 2024, 09:35:54 AM
@Cathode Ray   How did you first come across that link to the survey if you don't mind me asking?

Why would I mind?  Someone on a Discord server posted the survey.  I think it was the Legion of Myth server.  It may have been RandomWorlds server.
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Vanadium Angel

Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.

You are 100% correct.  That was the fastest survey I have ever taken.
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Ruprecht

Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Question is, is the survey any longer if you answer positively. Part of me wants someone to try it, and part of me doesn't want them to get a single positive feedback.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Ruprecht on March 15, 2024, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.
Question is, is the survey any longer if you answer positively. Part of me wants someone to try it, and part of me doesn't want them to get a single positive feedback.

The problem with the survey, nothing asked on this:

"Has WotC's publicly stated political stances made you more likely or less likely to buy a WotC product?"

I'd like them to state Kyle Brings baby poopoo in diaper cause I'm a leftard self hating white moment and their BS line against all D&D versions before 5E on DMsguild, Drivethru and any other company selling older D&D content.  They won't bring that one up.  Plus they aren't known as much by the general public.

tenbones

Who gives a fuck what 1) WotC 2)what rando's that hang WotC's nuts, wants to know what we think about WotC's products?

Other than people around these parts that use WotC and their endless issues for engagement reasons to sell their products (which is fair, no one is forcing you to do anything you don't want to do), who really gives a shit?

Or is this just more "I got nothing else to talk about in the TTRPG space other than what WotC does wrong (yet again), yet again?" The survey isn't for any of you. It's for the fucking losers that pretend "WotC's D&D" is worth saving. It's not your D&D.

We're all watching the ship go down. Let's enjoy the silence and watch those flames rise. Give them nothing. Take from them, everything. (i.e. your money and attention). Who is still counting their mistakes at this point?


Exploderwizard

I didn't even open the survey. That amount of effort just might convince WOTC that I actually care enough to take the time to say I hate you.
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Quote from: jeff37923 on March 14, 2024, 07:57:15 PM
Amazing how quick the survey is when you have a negative impression of WotC and the direction D&D is going.

Yeah, like I said, I was at 50% and suddenly I was at 100%  To be fair to WotC they probably shouldn't care what people who don't buy their products think.  That's where TSR went wrong.
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