Quote from: Bloody Stupid Johnson;381177It is weird in that it seems to lean pro-3e rather than pro-4e - there's no mention of 4e here.

THAT is very interesting, isn't it?

Quote from: mhensley;381176We need to get a deadpool going with people placing their bets on who wotc will fire in December.

Who's still left there?

Hmmm ...

- Bill Slavicsek
- Mike Mearls
- James Wyatt
- Bruce Cordell
- Richard Baker
- Rodney Thompson

EDIT:  Slavicsek will probably be the last guy to shut off the lights.  With Mearls as the head of D&D game development, most likely Wyatt, Cordell, Baker, and Thompson are more expendable than Mearls.  No idea who else is there, that isn't listed as contributors in splatbooks.

If WotC layoffs are partially based on rank and file employees having too high of a salary and/or somebody being at the company too long, one can do a deadpool based on that.

Richard Baker - around since 1991 (TSR)
Bruce Cordell - around since 1997 (WotC)
James Wyatt - around since 2000
Mike Mearls - around since 2005
Rodney Thompson - around since 2007

Quote from: Settembrini;381097Okay, that means 5th edition is being done with mearls at the helm and they start development NOW.

Yeah it was pretty transparent, wasn't it?

Quote from: Fifth Element;381148Shocker - a 4E hater with his facts wrong.

The Digital Initiative was never aborted. It includes such things as the online editions of Dragon and Dungeon, and the 4E tools like the Character Builder, Adventure Tools and the compendium.

Certain parts of the Digital Initiative were aborted, such as Gleemax, and some planned parts are vaporware at this point. But claiming the whole thing was aborted is just plain wrong.

As I understand it the DI includes more than D&D as well. It's a Wizards thing, not a D&D thing, so Magic and whatever else is included as well, not that I have any idea about what they do for other games online.

As Benoist said, how's that digital table top coming?  How are those digital minis?  Gleemax was stupid, and I hope the people responsible wind up like the storied M&M/Mars executive who turned down the E.T. The Extra-terrestrial license.  Frankly during the 1990's I heard the same excuses proffered about OS/2, Taligent:Pink, and a host of other infamous IT disasters.  There's a point at which you have to take a long hard look at the kit car you've tried to build with a bent frame and busted transaxle and call the scrapyard to come haul it off, and you can beat your gums all you want about it but the truth of the matter is, the whole thing is an embarrassing mess for WotC, one they'd be better off putting to sleep.  You know it, I know it, they know it.  As soon as someone at Hasbro can be found who actually cares about their little tax write-off, they'll know, and that'll be the end of it.


I do not give a fig about Magic or any other hoo-ha - I'm a D&D player, thanks.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;381183...the same excuses proffered about OS/2...

Watch it, jackass, I liked OS/2, and it was a damn good operating system to boot.

Quote from: StormBringer;381184Watch it, jackass, I liked OS/2, and it was a damn good operating system to boot.

Yeah 'cause OS/2 warp is goaAHAHahaohohoh...sorry, I can't even finish that without breaking up.  

NeXTStep lives forever.  

Quote from: thedungeondelver;381186Yeah 'cause OS/2 warp is goaAHAHahaohohoh...sorry, I can't even finish that without breaking up.  

You didn't think it just sank beneath the waves, did you?  

eComstation

MIT still supports it

International renown

It's not dead yet!

Workbench FTA!

The Amiga was a multi-core computer. Now, decades later, we have...Multi-core CPUs.

My Time Machine wish sometimes is that Commodore had good management and better advertising. And backwards compatibility.

Quote from: Settembrini;381097Okay, that means 5th edition is being done with mearls at the helm and they start development NOW.

Sure, cause Rob Heinsoo was put in charge of 3E in order to kick off 4E development.

Maybe they'll send Bruce Cordell and Richard Baker packing in the upcoming WotC December 2010 layoffs, due to these two being around since the 1990's and most likely having too high of salary.

Quote from: Narf the Mouse;381191Workbench FTA!

The Amiga was a multi-core computer. Now, decades later, we have...Multi-core CPUs.

My Time Machine wish sometimes is that Commodore had good management and better advertising. And backwards compatibility.

Oh no you don't.  Cramming an 040 and a busted PPC* in the same box don't make it multi-core!

(*=no L2 cache, so Blizzard PPC boards were gimped, as were DCE boards)

Or were you referring to OCS/ECS/AGA chipsets?

Quote from: Fifth Element;381148Certain parts of the Digital Initiative were aborted, such as Gleemax, and some planned parts are vaporware at this point.

How long ago was 4e released? How long before that was it in development?

At some point, don't you find yourself wondering why a company with the resources of Whizbros can't seem to deliver on something so fundamental? When the industry leader vapourlocks the pooch so thoroughly, what does it say about their commitment to and leadership of that industry?

This isn't "Two Guys in Mom's Basement Gaming Co., Inc" . . . then again, maybe it is.

Quote from: StormBringer;381190You didn't think it just sank beneath the waves, did you?  

eComstation

MIT still supports it

International renown

It's not dead yet!

Oh I used to work for Star Systems, the biggest EFT on the east side of the Mississippi from 90 to about 01 until they were swallowed by Concord (then First Data after that).  Most diebold ATMs ran OS/2 on a '386/16 with a meg of RAM and a 10mb (!) IDE HD until around 1998 or so when somebody figured out that a P166 board was actually cheaper to find and maintain and they switched to various flavors of Windows...

Your car has FORTH enabled chips in it; does that make FORTH the best language evar?!