Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

Quote from: Rhymer88 on August 05, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

And a particularly bad one. The belt and buckles make no sense, as is typical with AI. A quick search for the artist shows he doesn't have the skills to paint that on his own. wotC will be all AI art, except for a few major marketing illustrations, within a year.

Flaws with the AI generated artwork are almost invariably because the prompter has a poor workflow. Contrary to popular suspicion, AI art is a touch more complex than bashing  in "female elf barbarian in harsh lighting, Studio Ghibli" and it producing a usable artwork. A good AI generation workflow typically involves refining a prompt that's about 150 tokens long, generating about 20-30 images with that prompt, then taking 2-3 of the best images and using inpainting, outpainting, and Image to Image refining. Extra buckles are because the prompter didn't use inpainting to erase the extra buckles and tell the AI to try that section again.

So...who is surprised that WotC is cheaping out on the AI model and prompter training? Not me. WotC knows their magic cards can trade for $200, but they still make them out of cardboard that comes out of the pack curled.

I can understand using AI art as a placeholder if you can't afford a human artist, but these companies have plenty of money and bargaining power. If companies are treating AI as badly as they treat human artists, then they'll burn out AI just like they burned out human artists. They don't care one bot about quality!

Quote from: Rhymer88 on August 05, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

What horrible crap.  See how the head and torso are too small

Quote from: Rhymer88 on August 05, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

No reason to be concerned...

"Technology never brings out negative societal changes, and those that don't want them are poor fools to be spat on and scorned." - GeekyBugle

"All the doom and gloom is coming from the big guys, because they know these tools will allow people without a budget to compete with them, it's only F.U.D." - GeekyBugle

Anyone who's been praising the use of AI and anyone with concerns over its use might have negative effects in that other thread should have nothing but praise for WotC making this move. They're visionaries for jumping into the field early and squeezing every last cent of profit out of their IPs by cutting out flesh and blood artists.

I, on the other hand, am free to say without hypocrisy that this is a shit move by a shit company and anyone who views this as a good thing is embracing a frankly soulless ideology.

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 05, 2023, 11:19:35 AM
I, on the other hand, am free to say without hypocrisy that this is a shit move by a shit company and anyone who views this as a good thing is embracing a frankly soulless ideology.

And I'll reply, It matters not what the few of us here feel as the Market is ALWAYS Right.  Because the market is the sum of all votes by producers and consumers.  A most democratic system.

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 05, 2023, 11:19:35 AM
Anyone who's been praising the use of AI and anyone with concerns over its use might have negative effects in that other thread should have nothing but praise for WotC making this move. They're visionaries for jumping into the field early and squeezing every last cent of profit out of their IPs by cutting out flesh and blood artists.

I, on the other hand, am free to say without hypocrisy that this is a shit move by a shit company and anyone who views this as a good thing is embracing a frankly soulless ideology.

And history may very well prove you right, but I'd remind you that people also mocked the Model-T, saying a horse was still faster. This technology is still in it's infancy, and people are still learning how to effectively use it. If a baby stumbles and falls while trying to stand, do you assume it will never learn to walk?

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 05, 2023, 11:19:35 AM

Quote from: Rhymer88 on August 05, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

No reason to be concerned...

"Technology never brings out negative societal changes, and those that don't want them are poor fools to be spat on and scorned." - GeekyBugle

"All the doom and gloom is coming from the big guys, because they know these tools will allow people without a budget to compete with them, it's only F.U.D." - GeekyBugle

Anyone who's been praising the use of AI and anyone with concerns over its use might have negative effects in that other thread should have nothing but praise for WotC making this move. They're visionaries for jumping into the field early and squeezing every last cent of profit out of their IPs by cutting out flesh and blood artists.

I, on the other hand, am free to say without hypocrisy that this is a shit move by a shit company and anyone who views this as a good thing is embracing a frankly soulless ideology.

So you are fine with quoting fabricated quotes about me? Without bothering to read what I have wrote none the less. (Hint, I haven't denied EVER that tech might have deletereous effects)

Then you quote an authentic one, why? to make believe that I really said that other stuff? (And I'm sure me calling you out for being a lying TWAT will be misscharacterized by you as me "lashing out")

For you to be able to call me a hypocrite you'd need to find me calling out for banning AI GMs, can you?

No, you can't, but for some reason you have a stick up your ass and a hardon for me lately, I don't swing that way dude, even if you were a lying twat of the female persuassion I'm happily married so you'd still be out of luck.

But you do you boo, do carry on being a disingenuous lying twat I'm done with your cunty ass.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 12:17:51 PM

So you are fine with quoting fabricated quotes about me? Without bothering to read what I have wrote none the less.

Only the finest straw is used in our Straw Men.   

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 12:17:51 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 05, 2023, 11:19:35 AM

Quote from: Rhymer88 on August 05, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

No reason to be concerned...

"Technology never brings out negative societal changes, and those that don't want them are poor fools to be spat on and scorned." - GeekyBugle

"All the doom and gloom is coming from the big guys, because they know these tools will allow people without a budget to compete with them, it's only F.U.D." - GeekyBugle

Anyone who's been praising the use of AI and anyone with concerns over its use might have negative effects in that other thread should have nothing but praise for WotC making this move. They're visionaries for jumping into the field early and squeezing every last cent of profit out of their IPs by cutting out flesh and blood artists.

I, on the other hand, am free to say without hypocrisy that this is a shit move by a shit company and anyone who views this as a good thing is embracing a frankly soulless ideology.

So you are fine with quoting fabricated quotes about me? Without bothering to read what I have wrote none the less. (Hint, I haven't denied EVER that tech might have deletereous effects)

Then you quote an authentic one, why? to make believe that I really said that other stuff? (And I'm sure me calling you out for being a lying TWAT will be misscharacterized by you as me "lashing out")

For you to be able to call me a hypocrite you'd need to find me calling out for banning AI GMs, can you?

No, you can't, but for some reason you have a stick up your ass and a hardon for me lately, I don't swing that way dude, even if you were a lying twat of the female persuassion I'm happily married so you'd still be out of luck.

But you do you boo, do carry on being a disingenuous lying twat I'm done with your cunty ass.

For the bolded, I apologize, I pulled it from a quote attributed to you in another post without realizing the quote itself had been altered.

I didn't do enough due diligence on the quote in question and that is entirely on me.

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 05, 2023, 12:36:05 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 12:17:51 PM

Quote from: Chris24601 on August 05, 2023, 11:19:35 AM

Quote from: Rhymer88 on August 05, 2023, 06:04:34 AM
Looks like it's already happening:

https://twitter.com/roguecaliber/status/1687668302204563456

No reason to be concerned...

"Technology never brings out negative societal changes, and those that don't want them are poor fools to be spat on and scorned." - GeekyBugle

"All the doom and gloom is coming from the big guys, because they know these tools will allow people without a budget to compete with them, it's only F.U.D." - GeekyBugle

Anyone who's been praising the use of AI and anyone with concerns over its use might have negative effects in that other thread should have nothing but praise for WotC making this move. They're visionaries for jumping into the field early and squeezing every last cent of profit out of their IPs by cutting out flesh and blood artists.

I, on the other hand, am free to say without hypocrisy that this is a shit move by a shit company and anyone who views this as a good thing is embracing a frankly soulless ideology.

So you are fine with quoting fabricated quotes about me? Without bothering to read what I have wrote none the less. (Hint, I haven't denied EVER that tech might have deletereous effects)

Then you quote an authentic one, why? to make believe that I really said that other stuff? (And I'm sure me calling you out for being a lying TWAT will be misscharacterized by you as me "lashing out")

For you to be able to call me a hypocrite you'd need to find me calling out for banning AI GMs, can you?

No, you can't, but for some reason you have a stick up your ass and a hardon for me lately, I don't swing that way dude, even if you were a lying twat of the female persuassion I'm happily married so you'd still be out of luck.

But you do you boo, do carry on being a disingenuous lying twat I'm done with your cunty ass.

For the bolded, I apologize, I pulled it from a quote attributed to you in another post without realizing the quote itself had been altered.

I didn't do enough due diligence on the quote in question and that is entirely on me.

But you still think I'm a hypocrite for saying that the "AI" isn't yet at the state where it can replace a human GM. Equating that with me calling for the opposite ergo I should be in favor of banning all other "AIs"...

To the ignore list you go, I'm done with your disingenuous, lying and cunty ass. Feel free to keep on lying about me and saying me calling your cunty ass for lying is me "lashing out". TWAT.

AI is a tool. Tools are only as good as their user.  WotC is a shitty user.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:22:19 PM

To the ignore list you go, I'm done with your disingenuous, lying and cunty ass. Feel free to keep on lying about me and saying me calling your cunty ass for lying is me "lashing out". TWAT.

I couldn't find the ignore function on this board.

Quote from: Scooter on August 05, 2023, 04:23:56 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 05, 2023, 01:22:19 PM

To the ignore list you go, I'm done with your disingenuous, lying and cunty ass. Feel free to keep on lying about me and saying me calling your cunty ass for lying is me "lashing out". TWAT.

I couldn't find the ignore function on this board.

It exists in Geeky's head... like so much of what he spouts.