{Worst} Fantasy Race?

Dr Rotwang! · December 10, 2007, 12:51:29 PM

Quote from: StuartKender are garbage. Any race that encourages people to be disruptive at the table would be best left out of a game.

That's...that's a great description of and argument against them, actually!

QuoteI'm really not a fan of the "crazy-infantile" character that appears in various incarnations across RPG groups -- the less done to encourage that, the better.

Re'rend!

Ian Absentia · December 10, 2007, 12:56:26 PM

I think you're all a bunch of fantasy racists. If any of these races were real, you wouldn't dare bitch and complain about them. But, oh, since they're just make believe, you all feel the barn door is wide open to hate speech.

Hypocrites.

!i!

Dr Rotwang! · December 10, 2007, 01:00:01 PM

Sasquatches are all drug-dealing religious zealots who come here to steal our jobs.

beeber · December 10, 2007, 01:04:58 PM

Quote from: Zachary The FirstOn the Hobbit-Kender scale, I'd definitely like a move back towards the left, or at least center.

A good point about Kender characters at the table. They are one of those races that seem to attract that breed of player that thinks, "hey, this race will give me carte blanche to act like a total crazy asshole and I'll just claim it was all in character"! Not that a GM can't prevent that from even starting, or can't nip it in the bud, but that doesn't mean it isn't an annoyance.

i've just been inspired--a new character concept: the drizzt of kende. . . i mean, halflings. LG, cast out of halfling society for returning things stolen / borrowed by others. just wants to put down roots somewhere, hates wandering. maybe even some sort of wizard build, with scrying to find stolen items, just to return them out of some strange sense of "racial guilt"

now to find a group to try it in. . . .

beeber · December 10, 2007, 01:05:59 PM

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!Sasquatches are all drug-dealing religious zealots who come here to steal our jobs.

"where be the hairless bitches at?"

Bradford C. Walker · December 10, 2007, 01:16:14 PM

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaI think you're all a bunch of fantasy racists. If any of these races were real, you wouldn't dare bitch and complain about them. But, oh, since they're just make believe, you all feel the barn door is wide open to hate speech.

Hypocrites.

You're kidding, yes?

Zachary The First · December 10, 2007, 01:19:05 PM

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaI think you're all a bunch of fantasy racists. If any of these races were real, you wouldn't dare bitch and complain about them. But, oh, since they're just make believe, you all feel the barn door is wide open to hate speech.

Hypocrites.

!i!

Yeah, but...would you want your daughter marrying one of them...a kender?

obryn · December 10, 2007, 01:56:32 PM

I hate just about everything Dragonlance did to the D&D races. Kender are an abomination, and they tend to suck extremely hard in-game since they're so disruptive.

Gully dwarves are a one-joke pony.

I don't like gnomes of any variety - be they woodland friends or illusionists or bards or tinkers.

There are a number of real stinkers in the Wilderlands. Bardik, I'm looking at you!

-O

pspahn · December 10, 2007, 02:01:28 PM

Quote from: Consonant DudeI tend to run homanocentric campaigns (and as a player, I play mostly humans). However, I've wanted a new "tough" race to replace half-orcs for a long time. I could never find a suitable replacement that I liked. I can't say I adore Dragonborn but I might try it.

I like lizard men or gnolls for that. Far too underused and underappreciated--if you've ever been close to a real hyena, those things are creepy.

Quote from: obrynI hate just about everything Dragonlance did to the D&D races.

I liked the minotaurs as expert sailors (another cool "tough" race).

Pete

obryn · December 10, 2007, 02:25:11 PM

Quote from: pspahnI liked the minotaurs as expert sailors (another cool "tough" race).

Pete

I'll give you that. Broken as hell for the Dragonlance Adventures AD&D supplement (second only to Irda), but you're right. DL Minotaurs were actually pretty cool.

-O

GrimJesta · December 10, 2007, 02:50:49 PM

Quote from: jeff37923Or a Malkavian in Vampire.

Don't blame the concept because the majority of the players fucked it up. Insanity is usually subtle and scary as hell, so Malkavians should be as such. It's just the generations of retarded LARPers made them into pogoing idiots wearing tutus and bapping people over the head with fish.

Quote from: Pierce InverarityGrunge Elves.

The Grell are so friggin' awesome. Too bad they'll never get their own sourcebook for HM4e.

Quote from: StuartKender are garbage. Any race that encourages people to be disruptive at the table would be best left out of a game. I'm really not a fan of the "crazy-infantile" character that appears in various incarnations across RPG groups -- the less done to encourage that, the better.

Amen dude. Amen.

-=Grim=-

Ian Absentia · December 10, 2007, 02:57:48 PM

Quote from: GrimJestaInsanity is usually subtle and scary as hell, so Malkavians should be as such.

I think the real problem with using insanity as the basis for a character type is that it's scary from the inside out. As a realistic, outward manifestation, it's really surprisingly dull, or at least pitiful and easily ignored. Thus, characterisations in player-characters tend to be bad and hackneyed exaggerations.

!i!

GrimJesta · December 10, 2007, 03:08:17 PM

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaI think the real problem with using insanity as the basis for a character type is that it's scary from the inside out. As a realistic, outward manifestation, it's really surprisingly dull, or at least pitiful and easily ignored. Thus, characterisations in player-characters tend to be bad and hackneyed exaggerations.

!i!

Yea, but being a Vampire makes it not dull. My best Malkavian had everyone thinking he was a Ventrue. He was clean-cut, dressed in his best suits, played at politics, and was pleasant as far as Vampires go. No one knew he listened to a nasty voice in his head or that he was an oracle... at least not until it was too late.

Being a Vampire isn't dull unless you're doing something wrong. Know what I mean?

-=Grim=-

Blackleaf · December 10, 2007, 03:47:09 PM

Quote from: GrimJestaMy best Malkavian had everyone thinking he was a Ventrue. He was clean-cut, dressed in his best suits, played at politics, and was pleasant as far as Vampires go. No one knew he listened to a nasty voice in his head or that he was an oracle... at least not until it was too late.

Quiet and calculating crazy isn't halfway as disruptive as "Zany" attention-starved-player crazy. "I want to screw over the other players" -- that parts still disruptive... unless everyone in the game is playing that way (eg. Paranoia).

Caesar Slaad · December 10, 2007, 04:00:41 PM

Quote from: Age of FableKender. YOU GUYS ARE NOT CUTE.

That one.