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Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« on: June 11, 2022, 04:59:33 PM »
The Wokist SJWs keep alternating between trying to destroy the #OSR (or declare it "dead") and trying to infiltrate/subvert it. But the structure of the OSR is a model for how to resist Wokism. Their latest efforts are getting desperate, and just preaching to a diminishing choir.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2022, 06:53:23 AM »
Never underestimate their ability to co-opt anything. All they need is a foothold to start poisoning minds and then the disease spreads. Its no different from how storygamer cultist came to infest RPGs.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2022, 08:09:30 PM »
Make
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As for the OSR being dead, the rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. But what would the "death of the OSR" even mean or look like? We're a tiny part of a hobby that has mostly gone full retard. We'd just continue being tiny and not-retarded.


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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2022, 10:10:43 AM »
Make
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Again!

As for the OSR being dead, the rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. But what would the "death of the OSR" even mean or look like? We're a tiny part of a hobby that has mostly gone full retard. We'd just continue being tiny and not-retarded.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2022, 01:16:46 PM »
Make
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Again!

As for the OSR being dead, the rumors of our demise have been greatly exaggerated. But what would the "death of the OSR" even mean or look like? We're a tiny part of a hobby that has mostly gone full retard. We'd just continue being tiny and not-retarded.

The "death of the OSR" would any combination of three conditions:
1) No one is making new OSR products
2) No one is buying new OSR products
3) No one new is playing OSR games

None of these three are the case, or likely to be the case as long as I'm alive.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2022, 05:30:23 PM »
The "death of the OSR" would any combination of three conditions:
1) No one is making new OSR products
2) No one is buying new OSR products
3) No one new is playing OSR games

None of these three are the case, or likely to be the case as long as I'm alive.

You forget that all the cult has to do is co-opt enough of the OSR, or key points and then its no longer the OSR. But then it never was anynow. Watching a fake movement try to take over another fake movement is like the epitome of pathetic. RPGs are disjointed even more than the OSR and yet we have seen them co-opt companies left and right.

If people do not fight back then sooner or later they will take over and the OSR will be just another agenda platform.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2022, 02:49:16 PM »


You forget that all the cult has to do is co-opt enough of the OSR, or key points and then its no longer the OSR.

Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2022, 04:42:35 PM »
Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video.

And you still "uh" too much.  8)
No, really. You were uh-ing on average once every 10 seconds at the start. Then as usual this falls off once you get revved up. but you fall back into uh-ing once you lose momentum.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2022, 05:14:41 PM »
Never underestimate their ability to co-opt anything. All they need is a foothold to start poisoning minds and then the disease spreads. Its no different from how storygamer cultist came to infest RPGs.

Who are the big names in the OSR?

DCC, Swords & Wizardry, White Box FMAG, Basic Fantasy, OSE, LotFP, Labirynth Lord, Castles & Crusades, Sine Nomine, Autarch, Pundit, Grim (did I miss any?)

And countless smaller publishers.

Who among all of those can claim to be the Pope of the OSR? Who among those can impose their will on the rest?

Taking over a company is easy, just get a cultist hired in HR, then little by little the company will switch to do the parasite's biding and not pursuing what would be best for it's survival.

Now paint me a plausible scenario where they manage to do so with the OSR. A decentralized movement with no head or tail, or rather hundreds of heads, a Hydra where if you cut one head two more will grow.

Lets say they get DCC, Swords & Wizardry, White Box, Basic Fantasy, OSE & Sine Nomine. That's 6 of the big names, so they go down the woke path... Then what? What happens next? All the rest just follow like sheep?

Not likely, what is likely to happen is the others will rise to grab that market and some of the smaller ones will also try and do so.

The OGL means they can't win, they can take the WotC's and Paizo's (and are welcome to) because those have a centralized structure, the OSR doesn't, for fucks sake you can't make them agree on AC or ACC! And that's just the D20 based games.

Add the OpenD6, Cepheus Engine and other open SRDs...

Nope, they can destroy the big names (and I pray they do), this will only work as a wild fire clearing the path for new younger, healthier plants to fill the voids.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2022, 09:03:57 PM »
DCC is already in that category with their mass pronoun revisionism among other things.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2022, 09:26:26 PM »
DCC is already in that category with their mass pronoun revisionism among other things.

Okay, how does that disprove my argument?
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2022, 06:34:40 AM »
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2022, 06:09:41 PM »
Now paint me a plausible scenario where they manage to do so with the OSR. A decentralized movement with no head or tail, or rather hundreds of heads, a Hydra where if you cut one head two more will grow.

And yet they have gained footholds in countless decentralized groups and continue to spread?

Heres what could happen and has happened to others.

A: They get a foothold in some of the smaller ones, or one bigger one in the OSR and then start applying pressure in others to follow suit.
B: Eventually others will cave to infiltration, threats, or the usual SJW lies. Especially if they can poison marketing, which is ridiculously easy.
C: As they gain more foothold others will fold or be co-opted. Or worse, as we have been seeing now and then. Others will make WokeOSR games thinking this is the norm, or trendy and again you have this disease spreading.
D: Discredit or "cancel" any opposition. Which they are trying to do even now.

The only reason we have not seen a more concerted attack is because their attention is still mostly elsewhere. The OSR is not as juicy a target as other venues. Yet.

And the so called OSR isnt any better. Let the fake movements battle it out.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2022, 06:58:44 PM »
Nope, they can destroy the big names (and I pray they do), this will only work as a wild fire clearing the path for new younger, healthier plants to fill the voids.
I’m hoping this happens sooner rather than later. I’m sick of stagnant bloated messes dominating the market.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2022, 08:52:15 PM »
Meatball is the Star of the Show!

I can't wait for the next episode of the Meatball and Big Chungus Show that Pundit narrates!

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