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Author Topic: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves  (Read 2586 times)

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2022, 03:59:31 PM »
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And yet they have gained footholds in countless decentralized groups and continue to spread?

Because a) zoomer generation is way more left leaning b) important hobbies for culture are corporately owned - power of RPG over overall culture is... well irrelevant in large scope of things
Bonus is: it's naturally libertarian hobby - your table is always yours. There are always methods to spread non-woke RPGs even if population gonna turn left so hard it will be non-commercial activity.
Plot twist is: most of RPG producers, and most of OSR mayor producer, and most of NERDS are left-leaning. Way more than overall population. There is way less nerds among conservatists than among liberals.

That's not hobby problem, that's society problem.
There is not enough widely-understood right-wing nerds to grew as big as leftists. Simple enough.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2022, 10:10:19 AM »
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And yet they have gained footholds in countless decentralized groups and continue to spread?

Because a) zoomer generation is way more left leaning b) important hobbies for culture are corporately owned - power of RPG over overall culture is... well irrelevant in large scope of things
Bonus is: it's naturally libertarian hobby - your table is always yours. There are always methods to spread non-woke RPGs even if population gonna turn left so hard it will be non-commercial activity.
Plot twist is: most of RPG producers, and most of OSR mayor producer, and most of NERDS are left-leaning. Way more than overall population. There is way less nerds among conservatists than among liberals.

That's not hobby problem, that's society problem.
There is not enough widely-understood right-wing nerds to grew as big as leftists. Simple enough.

You started off well, then got wrong quickly.  There are different types of nerds.  The "liberal arts, rainbow hair, drama kids" type are overwhelmingly FAR left.  But the electronics, computer gaming, science nerds?  They are just as logical-minded (and right-wing-ish) as ever.  The only place on the planet you still hear the word "fag" used as a derogatory term is online video games.  You either underestimate the number of science nerds out there, or you have mistakenly defined "nerd."  The reason you think that RPG nerddom is primarily left wing is because that's what social media and the big companies promote.  And the drama kids do love their "let's pretend".  But they are, at most, 50% of the hobby.  There's a lot more diversity out there than you give credit to.

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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2022, 05:09:45 PM »
There's also the military gaming nerds.  Every base that I was stationed at back in the 80s and 90s had a game store right outside of the gates.  The store owners knew that the mil-spec types had disposable income and a powerful desire for entertainment that was unlimited and portable.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2022, 10:21:11 PM »
There is a woke OSR group on Facebook. The moderators are devout cowards. They love to hang people who aren’t on there (like me) because they are simply too scared to debate face to face. It’s comical and pathetic.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2022, 01:46:22 AM »
Who among all of those can claim to be the Pope of the OSR?

RPGPundit, of course!

You just know he has the hat.

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2022, 11:16:26 AM »
Seriously?  Have you looked at Grim Jim's collection of hats?  We might need a OSR Pope for each hemisphere.  :-D
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2022, 12:04:06 PM »
Who among all of those can claim to be the Pope of the OSR?

RPGPundit, of course!

You just know he has the hat.


Seriously?  Have you looked at Grim Jim's collection of hats?  We might need a OSR Pope for each hemisphere.  :-D


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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2022, 10:04:12 AM »
Seriously?  Have you looked at Grim Jim's collection of hats?  We might need a OSR Pope for each hemisphere.  :-D

You mean tri-sphere, right?  I'm at least a third OSR Pope, hoss!

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« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2022, 10:27:37 AM »
Seriously?  Have you looked at Grim Jim's collection of hats?  We might need a OSR Pope for each hemisphere.  :-D

You mean tri-sphere, right?  I'm at least a third OSR Pope, hoss!

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  I thought you were the OSR Evil High Priest of the Devil? Pundit is either the OSR EHP of the World, or the OSR CE World Revolutionary. Zak S was OSR EHP of the Flesh, but appears to have vacated the post.

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2022, 11:18:57 AM »
Yeah, if we're going with multiple titles, that's fine.  But if there's Pope or nothing, then I'm a Pope, hoss!

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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2022, 04:44:07 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2022, 04:44:51 PM »
There is a woke OSR group on Facebook. The moderators are devout cowards. They love to hang people who aren’t on there (like me) because they are simply too scared to debate face to face. It’s comical and pathetic.

In case you don't know, there's a group called OSR-HQ which is anti-woke on Facebook.
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2022, 04:45:35 PM »
Who among all of those can claim to be the Pope of the OSR?

RPGPundit, of course!

You just know he has the hat.

Actually, I don't like hats. I've got a bunch of weird esoteric vestments, but no big pointy hats.
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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2022, 05:21:25 PM »
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You started off well, then got wrong quickly.  There are different types of nerds.  The "liberal arts, rainbow hair, drama kids" type are overwhelmingly FAR left.  But the electronics, computer gaming, science nerds?  They are just as logical-minded (and right-wing-ish) as ever.  The only place on the planet you still hear the word "fag" used as a derogatory term is online video games.  You either underestimate the number of science nerds out there, or you have mistakenly defined "nerd."  The reason you think that RPG nerddom is primarily left wing is because that's what social media and the big companies promote.  And the drama kids do love their "let's pretend".  But they are, at most, 50% of the hobby.  There's a lot more diversity out there than you give credit to.

Maybe. Generally conservative part of fandom generates way less fuzz in RPG market, compared let's say video games.
So I'd expect "science nerds" or "unwoke nerds" to gravitate more towards boardgames, wargames but also video games.

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Re: Wokist OSR-haters Keep Thwarting Themselves
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2022, 10:26:02 PM »
Who among all of those can claim to be the Pope of the OSR?

RPGPundit, of course!

You just know he has the hat.

Actually, I don't like hats. I've got a bunch of weird esoteric vestments, but no big pointy hats.

If you wear the vestments just so, there is no need for a hat...