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Woke-thulhu

Started by aztecman, November 11, 2019, 11:02:08 AM

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Libertad

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Quote from: deadDMwalking;1113717Thanks for sharing that.  It reminds me of the time NPR tweeted the Declaration of Independence and Trump supporters thought it was a direct attack on them.

#makeamericanazifreeagain

On a relevant note, I'd highly recommend Achtung! Cthulhu series (available as a bundle here). You can play as antifa super-soldiers killing fascist mad scientists and frankenzombies running on alien technology. I'd rank it as Peak Wokethulhu or very close to it.

S'mon

Quote from: Libertad;1113731#makeamericanazifreeagain

On a relevant note, I'd highly recommend Achtung! Cthulhu series (available as a bundle here). You can play as antifa super-soldiers killing fascist mad scientists and frankenzombies running on alien technology. I'd rank it as Peak Wokethulhu or very close to it.

I haven't seen anything in A!C about how evil white people are. They do have Nazis without Swastikas, but I don't know if that's Woke or just cringing before the New German Reich.

S'mon

Quote from: Libertad;1113714If you're an old-timey Lovecraft purist or believe that Cultural Marxism is prominent in mainstream US politics, you probably want to stay away from CoC.

Elizabeth Warren makes a great High Priestess of Shub-Niggurath!

Libertad

#48
Based on the leaked emails on who's advising our President in the Trump White House as of late, the people who most wanna punch Nazis in this day and age are the same people who'd be decried as soyboy beta-males by /r/the_donald.

To keep it related to CoC gaming, Delta Green has you fight the Kyrotechia, a bunch of Neo-Nazi occultists living in Argentia. A #currentyear setting for that book can totes have you fighting alt-right jerks willing to make pacts with the more violent Mythos entities to realize their mad goal of a white ethnostate. Harlem Unbound had you fight the KKK, but this time they won't be wearing hoods. Can make for some inter-agency rivalry when you have to grapple with the fact that there are those in the executive branch who actually sympathize with their aims and thus wish to stymie your efforts.

S'mon

#49
Quote from: Libertad;1113735Based on the leaked emails on who's advising our President in the Trump White House as of late, the people who most wanna punch Nazis in this day and age are the same people who'd be decried as soyboy beta-males by /r/the_donald.

I can't see those soyboy beta-males fighting real Nazis. Real Nazis had guns and stuff. The Alpha soyboys like to gang up & attack unarmed people in America who they call Nazis - and who occasionally are Neo-Nazis; but more usually not.

The rest of your post definitely wants to make me run a modern Call of Cthulu campaign investigating Mythos cult activity within the Democratic Party. Ia! Ia! Hillary Fthagn! :p

Abraxus

I remember reading a story where someone who had access to the Necronomicon was essentially holding the American government hostage unless they paid an ransom. Long story short he asked for too much money and was willing to flood the Internet with copies of the book. No deal was reached and both the hackers and his system were taken out by a special "Shoggoth" computer virus. I wish I could remember the title and which anthology it was in.

Nihilistic Mind

Quote from: sureshot;1113800I remember reading a story where someone who had access to the Necronomicon was essentially holding the American government hostage unless they paid an ransom. Long story short he asked for too much money and was willing to flood the Internet with copies of the book. No deal was reached and both the hackers and his system were taken out by a special "Shoggoth" computer virus. I wish I could remember the title and which anthology it was in.

That sounds like a solid story!
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Simlasa

Quote from: sureshot;1113800I remember reading a story where someone who had access to the Necronomicon was essentially holding the American government hostage unless they paid an ransom. Long story short he asked for too much money and was willing to flood the Internet with copies of the book. No deal was reached and both the hackers and his system were taken out by a special "Shoggoth" computer virus. I wish I could remember the title and which anthology it was in.
Sounds like it fits in with the Laundry stories... did it have funny bits?

jhkim

Quote from: Libertad;1113735Based on the leaked emails on who's advising our President in the Trump White House as of late, the people who most wanna punch Nazis in this day and age are the same people who'd be decried as soyboy beta-males by /r/the_donald.
Quote from: S'mon;1113761I can't see those soyboy beta-males fighting real Nazis. Real Nazis had guns and stuff. The Alpha soyboys like to gang up & attack unarmed people in America who they call Nazis - and who occasionally are Neo-Nazis; but more usually not.

The rest of your post definitely wants to make me run a modern Call of Cthulu campaign investigating Mythos cult activity within the Democratic Party. Ia! Ia! Hillary Fthagn! :p
I don't really get Achtung Cthulhu. I'm down with having straight shoot-up-the-bad-guy game, but I feel like that doesn't mix with Lovecraft. It's things that really don't go together, I feel. I'm not a purist per se, but it feels shallow and/or overused to have Lovecraft monsters be generic bad guys like Nazis. I think the horror works better when there aren't clear good guys and bad guys.

The last time I ran Call of Cthulhu, the Nazis were part of the alliance against the Deep Ones and other horrors. If there's one thing that nazis hate, it's mixed blood mongrels like Deep Ones.

Bren

Quote from: jhkim;1113827I'm down with having straight shoot-up-the-bad-guy game, but I feel like that doesn't mix with Lovecraft. It's things that really don't go together, I feel.
So I guess you are not a fan of Brian Lumley?
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jhkim

Quote from: Bren;1113840So I guess you are not a fan of Brian Lumley?
I haven't read any his works, so no. I'm not opposed to them, and know little about them - but right now they're not up on my priority for reading.

S'mon

Quote from: jhkim;1113827I don't really get Achtung Cthulhu. I'm down with having straight shoot-up-the-bad-guy game, but I feel like that doesn't mix with Lovecraft. It's things that really don't go together, I feel. I'm not a purist per se, but it feels shallow and/or overused to have Lovecraft monsters be generic bad guys like Nazis. I think the horror works better when there aren't clear good guys and bad guys.

The last time I ran Call of Cthulhu, the Nazis were part of the alliance against the Deep Ones and other horrors. If there's one thing that nazis hate, it's mixed blood mongrels like Deep Ones.

A!C is definitely a pulp game, not a Lovecraftian horror game.
Himmler's paganist esotericism has long provided a rich well for pulp horror tropes from at least the 1970s. A!C seems in that tradition, but there is a certain blandness or offness about the game. Not sure if that's about not causing offence.

Simlasa

Quote from: jhkim;1113844I haven't read any his works, so no. I'm not opposed to them, and know little about them - but right now they're not up on my priority for reading.
I've read Lumley... I thought his stuff was crap. What I read was an attempt at melding E.R.B. he-man adventure tales to H.P.L. mythos... lots of name-dropping of mythos entities in the blandest way possible. He made Derleth look like a master of the macabre. No atmosphere, no tension, no horror.
R.E.H. had a much better go at that sort of thing.

Catelf

Quote from: Omega;1113618If only it were just hysteria and not company after company being slowly, or not-so-slowly, infested with these SJW idiots who invariably end up being more offensive those of us they are supposedly trying to "defend" than the people they demonize.

If only people on either side of the "Damn, i just want to game"-middle weren't overreacting, or even worse, hounding said middle for things that are a natural part of it, including trends.
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Quote from: Simlasa;1113809Sounds like it fits in with the Laundry stories... did it have funny bits?

Definitely not the doomed hacker knew what was happening before he died asked to be given a chance to live and because he refused the initial deal was politely told "sorry sucks to be you". Definitely not anything like the Laundry.

Quote from: Simlasa;1113856I've read Lumley... I thought his stuff was crap. What I read was an attempt at melding E.R.B. he-man adventure tales to H.P.L. mythos... lots of name-dropping of mythos entities in the blandest way possible. He made Derleth look like a master of the macabre. No atmosphere, no tension, no horror.
R.E.H. had a much better go at that sort of thing.

I enjoyed Lumley as Lovecraft constant nihilism gets truly annoying in his stories. We get we are doomed why not go out fighting as opposed to just doom and gloom. That being said Lumley does definitely do the writers equivalent of  phoning it in for the series.