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Author Topic: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku  (Read 4147 times)

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Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« on: August 09, 2022, 06:19:23 PM »
Was skimming through drive-thru today and noticed that Edge studios has recently released a Rokugan supplement for 5e.  For those of you that don't know, Rokugan is the setting for the samurai-inspired Legend of Five Rings game.  Back in the 3e days, Rokugan also briefly served as the default setting for [trigger warning] "Oriental Adventures" and they published a variety of supplements for both D&D and L5R.

The most recent iteration of L5R, by Fantasy Flight, was ridiculously woke, with hilariously insipid sidebars about cultural sensitivity, trigger warnings about depictions of heterosexuality and the like.  But Edge has apparently one-upped them by actually "prohibiting seppuku aka hara-kiri, or ritual suicide, in a game ostensibly grounded in samurai culture!  This is like prohibiting church in a setting based on Puritan New England.  I didn't buy the product since I have no interest in 5e, but it was amusing to see the debates about this prohibition in the reviews/discussion section.

Ahh, when will the snowflakes stop?

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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2022, 06:29:50 PM »
They won't. So long as it remains profitable to cater to them, they won't stop.

Also, why the fuck would anybody play L5R in 5E? That's the epitome of retardation. Form follows function, or I suppose it should be updates that the setting is intrinsically tied to the mechanics and vice versa. It's like using a microscope as a hammer - yeah you could, but why. The real moral of the story is that people should CONSOOM less and make their own shit for their gaming groups. Social media was a mistake.

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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2022, 06:30:48 PM »
Well, the woke want games to be accessible to the mentally ill, and a substantial portion of the mentally ill are at high-risk for suicide, so of course they would erase a significant mark of honor-culture to appeal to fragile feefees.


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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2022, 07:36:43 PM »
Very well. I suppose I must now kill my dishonored characters through the redeeming act of sudoku.
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2022, 07:54:30 PM »
If anybody is looking for samurai games may I suggest these two. 

Sengoku.  It’s got a lot of it’s pages devoted to learning how Japanese culture worked, even going so far as to have a chapter about architecture, like tatami mats and how ceilings are made.  I believe the system is the Fuzion system.  There are a lot of stats.   

Another game is Shinobi and Samurai.  This game is much lighter on content.  It is also OSR and is a D&D style of rules.  It’s more conventional to play, but lacks almost any setting info, including Japanese medieval culture and terminology.   
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2022, 09:49:02 PM »
Very well. I suppose I must now kill my dishonored characters through the redeeming act of sudoku.

Nah, he'll just get banned off of social media and have all his bank accounts frozen.

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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2022, 01:58:15 AM »
The most recent iteration of L5R, by Fantasy Flight, was ridiculously woke, with hilariously insipid sidebars about cultural sensitivity, trigger warnings about depictions of heterosexuality and the like.
It always struck me as the equivalent of "Yellowface" in an RPG anyway. Blending in Seattle can't make it much worse.
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2022, 03:19:15 AM »
How would they stop you?

A game can recommend players and GMs do this or that with a game, but they can't make or stop you doing anything with it.
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2022, 03:26:49 AM »
 ;D Lol, OK, whatever "Safety Bumpers Rokugan".  ::) L5R 1e is best. Keep remaking that wheel guys, one day you'll remember why its shape is so efficient!  8)
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2022, 08:58:09 AM »
It's stuff like this that reinforces for me that the sjdubs do not know what a role playing game is. They are incapable of being adults.

Like the idiots that decry colonization, they want to completely ignore history and fact. I'm just gobsmacked at the stupidity.
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2022, 09:10:52 AM »
I'm sure the next edition will ban the killing of others.
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2022, 09:34:45 AM »
Greetings!

Samurai customs for Sepuku are a famous trademark. *CUTTING THAT HUGE CULTURAL DYNAMIC* out of the game is, frankly, insulting. Yes, I'm a Great White Shark, too, and I find it deeply offensive. The Code of Bushido should be respected, as it was absolutely central to the Samurai Warrior class. Even embracing such for a fantasy game, geesus. Keep some respect for the source material.

Fuck these feminized Woke fucking game companies.

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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2022, 11:58:39 AM »
Greetings!

Samurai customs for Sepuku are a famous trademark. *CUTTING THAT HUGE CULTURAL DYNAMIC* out of the game is, frankly, insulting. Yes, I'm a Great White Shark, too, and I find it deeply offensive. The Code of Bushido should be respected, as it was absolutely central to the Samurai Warrior class. Even embracing such for a fantasy game, geesus. Keep some respect for the source material.

Fuck these feminized Woke fucking game companies.

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Well said. IMHO those wishing to play such a game should stick to L5R 1e or get their hand in the games reccomended upstream by Weirdguy564 Sengoku can be used as a source book and then if you're an OSR guy use Shinobi & Samurai for the system or whatever other game system you like best.
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2022, 12:08:57 PM »
;D Lol, OK, whatever "Safety Bumpers Rokugan".  ::) L5R 1e is best. Keep remaking that wheel guys, one day you'll remember why its shape is so efficient!  8)
LOL, imagining samurai warriors covered in bubble wrap to protect them from the harshness of the setting.   ;D
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Re: Woke Rokugan Supplement Prohibits Seppuku
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2022, 01:42:30 PM »
5e L5R was never going to be a good adaptation of OG L5R gameplay...

It's designer is a 4e fan.

They scrubbed a lot of the feudal Japan lore to make the 5e version more "generically Asian".

NuRogukan Is a fantasy anime fighting game wearing the L5R IP as a Skinsuit.

And they admit it:

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