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Quote from: Ka'arl Sorcerer of Cha'alt on December 06, 2021, 05:40:08 PM
Well I mean D&D has dropped 80% in sales in the last year while other companies have seen sales go up.

Just saying.

When you buy Wizards books inside of Roll20 (or whatever online platform) do they count for this kind of counting? I'm guessing those numbers only count hardcopy sales or something.

Quote from: Ka'arl Sorcerer of Cha'alt on December 06, 2021, 05:40:08 PM
Well I mean D&D has dropped 80% in sales in the last year while other companies have seen sales go up.
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Kinda need an actual link to prove this.

According to Wotc D&D has had 30% +ish growth for the last few years 2019-2020.

If the sales for D&D fell 80% in 2021 that is BIG NEWS - and needs verification...

And so far I'm not seeing any.


IMHO - we will not see big drop offs until at least a few years beyond the 50th not-edition release.

D&D will ride high on its current momentum for quite a bit. Like the Dr. Who tv show it will take several years from its peak popularity to really go full woke and cause the fans to leave in droves. 

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Quote from: Ka'arl Sorcerer of Cha'alt on December 06, 2021, 05:40:08 PM
Well I mean D&D has dropped 80% in sales in the last year while other companies have seen sales go up.
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Kinda need an actual link to prove this.

According to Wotc D&D has had 30% +ish growth for the last few years 2019-2020.

If the sales for D&D fell 80% in 2021 that is BIG NEWS - and needs verification...

Both can be accurate because D&D is currently much bigger than just it's book line. One could see an 80% fall off in physical book sales, but increases in the digital Roll20 packages, the miniatures, the "merch" (t-shirts and associated crap) could easily result in a net +30% growth for the "Lifestyle Brand."

Looks like both sales and revenue increased in 2020.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/13/dungeons-dragons-had-its-biggest-year-despite-the-coronavirus.html

Their sales aren't going to drop until the influencers and pretty people tell the FOMO fuckwits what the next pet rock/tamagotchi is.

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Quote from: Ka'arl Sorcerer of Cha'alt on December 06, 2021, 05:40:08 PM
Well I mean D&D has dropped 80% in sales in the last year while other companies have seen sales go up.
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Kinda need an actual link to prove this.

According to Wotc D&D has had 30% +ish growth for the last few years 2019-2020.

If the sales for D&D fell 80% in 2021 that is BIG NEWS - and needs verification...

Both can be accurate because D&D is currently much bigger than just it's book line. One could see an 80% fall off in physical book sales, but increases in the digital Roll20 packages, the miniatures, the "merch" (t-shirts and associated crap) could easily result in a net +30% growth for the "Lifestyle Brand."

Possible.

But to paraphrase my sometime debating partner on here Mistwell: "Links or it didn't happen..."

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Quote from: horsesoldier on October 04, 2021, 08:37:48 AM
This is the first edition of DnD to be helmed by total mediocrities. Every other edition has something the designs can point to as their masterpiece. What does Perkins, Crawford et al have?

Nothing.

Aside from the most popular edition of the world's most popular RPG lmao

They were not the creators of that RPG, though. They "have" the Good Name of that edition on their side, which is an advantage to be sure. But 4e's designers had the Good Name of 3e to bank on, and then completely tanked when they put out a Shit Edition anyways.

And just like with 4e, look for D&D CRT Edition to SHIT ALL OVER 5e, in this case talking about how bigoted and transphobic and White-male-oriented and Colonialist it was and how anyone who ever like it (or maybe even played it) was a Literal Nazi.

Its funny that you are on this campaign against an edition you actually helped build (you're a consultant on 5e right?) But I guess you eat your own and you turncoat when needed. As you are a part of the outrage brigade. Like OMG they use 'they/them' pronouns... its the END OF THE WORLD... omg.

That's one hell of a take. I'm defending the current edition, against people who want to change it not to make it more gameable, but to suit an ideological agenda. Who is 'eating their own' here?

People here, that's freaking who.

Quote from: Ka'arl Sorcerer of Cha'alt on December 06, 2021, 05:40:08 PM
Well I mean D&D has dropped 80% in sales in the last year

Do you have a source for that? Because I can't find anything, and it's quite an incredible claim.

I mean, no one is forcing you to play D&D with nonbinary people who use nonbinary pronouns, so I don't see what the big deal is. Nonbinary people have existed in many cultures all throughout human history, and nonbinary pronouns have always been in use in modern languages. Heck, Japanese mostly doesn't even use pronouns, at all, and doesn't have plurals other than markers like "-tachi" and "-gata". Instead of saying "they", in Japanese a person would say, "that person".

German uses "sie" as the feminine singular third person, and also as the plural third person pronoun for all genders, plus German uses "Sie" (capitalised) as the formal second person and third person singular and plural pronouns. Which, incidentally, is pronounced "zee". In most cases, when speaking in polite company, a German will use the formal "Sie" when addressing another person unless they are addressing family or a child, or a close confidant.

Hasbro wants to sell more books, and D&D5E is becoming cumbersome, with rules and rulings spread across a myriad number of books and supplements, UE, Errata, and Jeremy Crawford's Twitter. 5E absolutely needs a refresh and a consolidation.

And yes, it could do with a little more inclusiveness. I'm all for it.

Since when was D&D not inclusive. It's always been open to everyone. It's pure posturing to attract the woker than thou crowd and it will absolutely backfire because they don't buy anything.

Quote from: mightybrain on December 16, 2021, 06:30:02 AM
Since when was D&D not inclusive. It's always been open to everyone. It's pure posturing to attract the woker than thou crowd and it will absolutely backfire because they don't buy anything.

It might surprise you to learn that other people have different opinions, and the younger crowd, who is demonstrably the future of gaming, has a keen interest in overt support for diversity, inclusion, and equity. If you think this hobby is a bastion of inclusivity in this society/culture, I can only surmise from that that you personally do not experience marginalisation in this hobby.

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Quote from: mightybrain on December 16, 2021, 06:30:02 AM
Since when was D&D not inclusive. It's always been open to everyone. It's pure posturing to attract the woker than thou crowd and it will absolutely backfire because they don't buy anything.

It might surprise you to learn that other people have different opinions, and the younger crowd, who is demonstrably the future of gaming, has a keen interest in overt support for diversity, inclusion, and equity. If you think this hobby is a bastion of inclusivity in this society/culture, I can only surmise from that that you personally do not experience marginalisation in this hobby.

Ironically, I got into playing RPGs because I was marginalized.

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Quote from: avaia on December 16, 2021, 06:47:13 AM

Quote from: mightybrain on December 16, 2021, 06:30:02 AM
Since when was D&D not inclusive. It's always been open to everyone. It's pure posturing to attract the woker than thou crowd and it will absolutely backfire because they don't buy anything.

It might surprise you to learn that other people have different opinions, and the younger crowd, who is demonstrably the future of gaming, has a keen interest in overt support for diversity, inclusion, and equity. If you think this hobby is a bastion of inclusivity in this society/culture, I can only surmise from that that you personally do not experience marginalisation in this hobby.

Ironically, I got into playing RPGs because I was marginalized.

D&D was a lot more inclusive before it was Inclusive.

Yeah, sorry avaia, but you are wrong.

Roleplaying games in general have been a haven for the outcasts in the past. I've ranted on this several times.

Yes, we could be and were socially maladapted. So what? You're going to tell us we weren't 'inclusive' enough when our only request was 'roll the dice and play the game'?