They seem to have lost their flair for naming things.

Quote from: Orphan81;856769It's the "Society of Ether" now, which sounds better than "Sons of Ether" to me.

The "Chakravanti" is the replacement name for the "Euthantos" and I prefer that as well..

The "Khavadi" as the replacement for "Dream Speakers" is stupid though. Dream Speakers is a much more evoactive name, and multicultural for a shamanistic group as is..

The "Akashyana" and "Mercurial Elites" is kinda "meh". I think the point with the "Mercurial Elites" was to try and modernize the Virtual Adepts....but Virtual Reality is actually a big thing again, so that sorta backfired.

I think "L33t Haxxzorz" would've gotten the point across better, but it also would've been lame.

JG

huh? Interesting. I did not know that one of the Blumes, Brian I assume, did some work for White Wolf? Wonder what?

It seems like people seem to dislike White Wolf for different reasons. A lot of people don't like the metaplot. The new games don't have a metaplot, but the setting backgrounds were so vague that I often didn't really knew what to do with it. A more focused approach would make it a lot better.

Quote from: Omega;856775They seem to have lost their flair for naming things.

They put too much thought into naming things now. They probably spend hours thinking about each name and researching it, making sure it was linguistically accurate, culturally sensitive, politically correct, and so on.

In the olden days they just said "Hey, these guys who can control darkness, let's call them 'The Shadow' in Spanish."

Quote from: Sergeant Brother;856795They put too much thought into naming things now. They probably spend hours thinking about each name and researching it, making sure it was linguistically accurate, culturally sensitive, politically correct, and so on.

In the olden days they just said "Hey, these guys who can control darkness, let's call them 'The Shadow' in Spanish."

The names they picked were generally goofy or nonsensical.

BTW There's nothing culturally sensitive about the mage traditions. Most of them are of western origin and the ones that aren't are mashups of various non-white cultures that completely ignore cultural diversity.

Akashic = Asian martial artists
Euthanatos = Indian serial killers
Dream Speaker = all indigenous cultures displaced by white imperialism

Seriously, you could build an entire game around the real world occult traditions and religions of China alone. Instead we got the worst possible stereotype!

Quote from: jan paparazzi;856789It seems like people seem to dislike White Wolf for different reasons. A lot of people don't like the metaplot. The new games don't have a metaplot, but the setting backgrounds were so vague that I often didn't really knew what to do with it. A more focused approach would make it a lot better.

I would suggest picking another game until the smoke blows over. Chill is good for paranormal investigation (they recently released a 3rd edition with simplified rules). Feed is good for vampires and vampire-like creatures struggling to maintain their humanity.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;856802I would suggest picking another game until the smoke blows over. Chill is good for paranormal investigation (they recently released a 3rd edition with simplified rules).

3rd edition Chill was written by Mathew Mcfarland, making it a Onyx Path/Whitewolf release in all but name.

If you want the real 3rd edition Chill, you need to check out "Cryptworld", which is actually written by the original creator of Chill.

Quote from: Orphan81;8568073rd edition Chill was written by Mathew Mcfarland, making it a Onyx Path/Whitewolf release in all but name.

If you want the real 3rd edition Chill, you need to check out "Cryptworld", which is actually written by the original creator of Chill.

Cryptworld wasn't written by the original writer of Chill. But it is very good and it uses the original rule set. Which is pretty simple, if very old school.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales;856802I would suggest picking another game until the smoke blows over. Chill is good for paranormal investigation (they recently released a 3rd edition with simplified rules). Feed is good for vampires and vampire-like creatures struggling to maintain their humanity.

Probably will mix and match East Texas University, 12TM/Pinebox and The Thin Blue Line (all SW) for a good paranormal investigation game. Waiting for some other games (possibly the Witch rpg or Fae Nightmares) for a good supernatural urban fantasy game. I wouldn't mind a Triple Ace urban fantasy game either. I like their setup with all those factions and all those different areas you can use. Make it easy to pick and choose something.