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Author Topic: Why is this person in the OSR?  (Read 14765 times)

Snowman0147

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2020, 12:19:09 PM »
Not only that Tenbones, but once the invaders are out we need to keep them out.  Seriously the future of entertainment is going to be about gatekeeping, or get swallowed by sjws.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2020, 12:41:57 PM »
I made the mistake of reading the rules to the Elf Game.  I got down to ability checks and it seemed totally broken. 
I find it hard to believe this fellow worked for WoTC or SJ Games.

Anyway it must be really weird living in a country run by Nazis and being able to express your discontent so freely.   :-P

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2020, 04:06:17 PM »
The proper response to people like this is to ridicule them mercilessly and remind them to take their meds.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2020, 04:25:46 PM »
I may not like Trump at all, but calling him a Nazi is fucking insane.

How so?  The man was quite active in supporting the National Socialist German Worker's Party during the 1930's and 40s.

Seriously though, to quote an article I read:

"You can be a total xenophobic racist male chauvinist bastard and still not be a fascist."

Or Nazi in this case.

The sooner the Left learns to stop crying 'wolf' at puppy dogs, and the words have meanings, the sooner people might take what they say more seriously.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2020, 05:08:17 PM »
Wasn’t there a community called SwordDream already created for SJWs who played OSR games? This person should go there to find a like-minded echo chamber. The OSR is too broad to belong or have any political ideology. Venger’s declaration that the OSR endorsesTruml is similarly obnoxious.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2020, 05:47:44 PM »
Wasn’t there a community called SwordDream already created for SJWs who played OSR games? This person should go there to find a like-minded echo chamber. The OSR is too broad to belong or have any political ideology. Venger’s declaration that the OSR endorsesTruml is similarly obnoxious.

Yeah that was a thing, IIRC someone immediately made a game under their banner that was almost indistinguishable from what would be standard alt right talking points but managed to do it in such a fashion that you really couldn't tell if it was a piss take on the whole "sword dream" or some oblivious leftist failing to see the parallels.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2020, 07:05:26 PM »
Thank Goodness that the OSR has come out against Nazis!

But why are WotC and the Catholic church so quiet on the subject?  I think we all know the answer.
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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2020, 07:19:37 PM »
His blog.

It is hard to take seriously anyone who says "Trump is the way" and mentions Shapiro--the dumb person's smart man--in the same posting.

EDIT: But reading through VS's first blog, at least, I don't see "Nazi." I see nationalism and right-wingism, but not Nazism. There's a disturbing number of left-wingers who associate anything to the right of center with Nazism, which I don't condone, even if I don't like VS's political ideology.

But to bring this back to the OSR, I think the only way to go is big tent. To say "the OSR endorses Donald Trump" is absurd, but so is accusing all conservatives of being Nazis. It shouldn't be so radical to suggest that gaming has traditionally been a place where a diverse range of political ideologies can come to the table and have a good time together. If you're rah-rahing Trump and trying to exclude lefties, or calling everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2020, 07:30:12 PM »
For those of us in the rest of the world, please keep your American poltics out of the OSR.

It's juvenile and puerile and makes you all look fucking insane, and it's become tedious for the rest of us.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2020, 09:30:39 PM »
VS isn’t even conservative. He’s a lifelong liberal who voted for $Hillary—who’s basically a neocon, granted, but point being he was a Democrat who voted blue no matter who. He’s just not a very deep thinker, and recently left the Democrats like a year ago (from what I gathered from Inappropriate Characters) due to all the Trump derangement and riot-supporting, woke-pandering insanity. He’s probably just starting explore thinkers from the other side now he’s willing to expand his horizons a bit and it’s getting overexcited. Plus wasn’t the thing about the OSR supporting Trump a joke or something?

Anyways, these people are insane, what more can be said? They’re self-important cultural imperialists who love to whine about CoLoNiZaTiOn while simultaneously using terms like Latin-X, which is an anglocentric rebranding of the Spanish language promoted by people who think they know better than those Spanish speaking savages. They come and they colonize, and they look down on and try to expunge those who don’t conform while purporting to be champions of DiVeRsItY and InClUsIoN, but being the complete opposite. Which is what their intrusion into this hobby is all about. They’re colonizers coming to tell us what’s what. And those who don’t like it better get out of their iNcLuSiVe hobby, which they’ve claimed only for themselves.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2020, 06:14:42 AM »
VS isn’t even conservative. He’s a lifelong liberal who voted for $Hillary—who’s basically a neocon, granted, but point being he was a Democrat who voted blue no matter who. He’s just not a very deep thinker, and recently left the Democrats like a year ago (from what I gathered from Inappropriate Characters) due to all the Trump derangement and riot-supporting, woke-pandering insanity. He’s probably just starting explore thinkers from the other side now he’s willing to expand his horizons a bit and it’s getting overexcited. Plus wasn’t the thing about the OSR supporting Trump a joke or something?

Anyways, these people are insane, what more can be said? They’re self-important cultural imperialists who love to whine about CoLoNiZaTiOn while simultaneously using terms like Latin-X, which is an anglocentric rebranding of the Spanish language promoted by people who think they know better than those Spanish speaking savages. They come and they colonize, and they look down on and try to expunge those who don’t conform while purporting to be champions of DiVeRsItY and InClUsIoN, but being the complete opposite. Which is what their intrusion into this hobby is all about. They’re colonizers coming to tell us what’s what. And those who don’t like it better get out of their iNcLuSiVe hobby, which they’ve claimed only for themselves.

What do these so-called conservatives conserve? It's just "20 years ago"-liberalism. I hope to god you don't equate voting Republican with being a "deep thinker".
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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2020, 06:57:23 AM »
Ah, screw it.

Crazy person issues diatribe. Film at 11.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2020, 09:34:29 AM by jeff37923 »
"Meh."

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2020, 10:05:33 AM »
Not only that Tenbones, but once the invaders are out we need to keep them out.  Seriously the future of entertainment is going to be about gatekeeping, or get swallowed by sjws.

Naturally. I accepted this long ago. But that's why 2nd Order thinking kicks in... What is the natural outcome of SJW's taking over as Gatekeepers? Collapse. Get Woke Go Broke after all.

That's why its important for people that are creators to be ready to pounce. People need to be ready to rebuild whatever happens next right now.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2020, 12:52:14 PM »
Ah, screw it.

Crazy person issues diatribe. Film at 11.

If it wasn't for that, 90% of the "discussion" here would be dead.

The rest would be focused on "OSR: Best Thing Ever?  Yes or Why It is".

Not that any other forums appear to be all that better.  Just different politics and darlings.

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Re: Why is this person in the OSR?
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2020, 01:06:08 PM »
Ah, screw it.

Crazy person issues diatribe. Film at 11.

If it wasn't for that, 90% of the "discussion" here would be dead.

The rest would be focused on "OSR: Best Thing Ever?  Yes or Why It is".

Not that any other forums appear to be all that better.  Just different politics and darlings.

Let's talk about Alignment for a hojilionth time instead!
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