Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1080434Those Tropes are unacceptable and offensive in civilized society. It's active belittlement of the one of most significant religious based mass murders of the age.

There are people around who survived it. People around whose lives were directly impacted by it. And those "tropes" come from the same twisted mentality of people who would joke about Jews getting thrown in the gas chambers. Absolutely unacceptable.

Do you apply this reasoning to Heaven's Gate and other murder-suicide cults? How about the Branch Davidians at Waco?

Edit: I don't see anything derogatory about "Don't drink the koolade" - it' not belittling the cultists. Onviously though the cultists were very foolish, I'm not seeing much parrallel to the Nazi Holocaust.

Quote from: S'mon;1080437Do you apply this reasoning to Heaven's Gate and other murder-suicide cults? How about the Branch Davidians at Waco?

Edit: I don't see anything derogatory about "Don't drink the koolade" - it' not belittling the cultists. Onviously though the cultists were very foolish, I'm not seeing much parrallel to the Nazi Holocaust.

More than half of those cultists in Jonestown had no idea what was coming. They were out and out murdered by the so-called heads of the cult. It certainly wasn't their choices to die. They were straight up murdered.

Yes. Those tropes are offensive. Because they blame innocent people for the fate that ultimately befell them. A fate that clearly had been established that wasn't their choice.

No. i don't apply this to the Branch Davidians. They all ultimately chose their fate. The same is true of Heaven's Gate.

And the Holocaust connection? I'll clarify that right now. It was about innocent people who were murdered. That's about as basic a comparison as it gets,

And I'll tell you why this matters so much to me! I was almost there! My psycho grandmother moved the family into the area that cult left just a month prior. She worked at what was their compound. She was actively plotting for my family to join them! And if it wasn't for the miracle of my mom having a flash of clarity and opposed her, I would have been one of those kids force fed the poison!

The fact was: Jonestown had a bigger impact than on those who were immediately involved. It splashed over on those with even a peripheral relation to the people who were there and those who were left behind.

So fuck you and all the people who belittle that tragedy! Fuck you with the spiked end of a morningstar!

All this angst calls for [video=youtube_share;EmKYrxzOTC4]https://youtu.be/EmKYrxzOTC4[/youtube]

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1080440No. i don't apply this to the Branch Davidians. They all ultimately chose their fate.

LOL.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1080394Spinachcat:

No. Apparently you don't understand what Jonestown was.

I absolutely do. Jonestown was the largest pre-9/11 mass murder of Americans. That's why it holds a special cultural place in our minds. But by global standards? A thousand dead is a small mass murder, even by modern tabulations.

If you want huge mass murder, check out the Rwandan genocide from 1994. Maybe a million dead. And the Armenians claim 1.5M dead in their 1915 genocide. And the Khmer Rouge may have killed 2.5M in the 1970s.

Humans are really good at mass murder. But the word "Jonestown" is shorthand for mass suicide, and you knew that.

Quote from: Lurtch;1080395Marxism always leads to death.

Always.

One death is a tragedy.  A thousand is a statistic.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1080440REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

And a good day to you, too, sir!

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1080440More than half of those cultists in Jonestown had no idea what was coming. They were out and out murdered by the so-called heads of the cult. It certainly wasn't their choices to die. They were straight up murdered.

Yes. Those tropes are offensive. Because they blame innocent people for the fate that ultimately befell them. A fate that clearly had been established that wasn't their choice.

No. i don't apply this to the Branch Davidians. They all ultimately chose their fate. The same is true of Heaven's Gate.

You mean the kids decided to sacrifice themselves to Janet Reno? I never knew that.

Come on folks, does any of this really have a direct connection to RPGs? If not, it doesn't really belong here.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1080384I actually, truly understand what I am saying there.

US Millennials (especially SJWs) + 10 years = mass suicide epidemic. The culture of perpetual victimhood with its steady diet of social media and anti-depressants will reach its obvious conclusion as the mass of the generation hits "mid-life"(aka, divorce, insolent teenagers, stagnant careers, and world that didn't live up to its hype).

As a purely secular generation, there is no "god" or "afterlife" to deter them, and MSM's worship of Only Youth isn't going to change. When Millennials aren't the MSM's 24/7 darling anymore, you'll see real despondent darkness spread across their social media.  

Millennials conform like lemmings and when one lemming pops off the cliff, its sky dive lessons for the conga line. And let's not forget AOC has promised the world ends in 12 years...

It probably will not be long before the Social Media algorithms can start to detect suicidal thoughts.  It will be interesting to see what they do with that information, sell more advertisements?  Damn Zucked again.

I predict the cratering of Facebook before that happens. Personally, I am ready to migrate entirely to Mewe. Let Suckerberg sit on his obsolete, decaying personal info.

Politics and social movements are cyclical with a trend towards progressiveness since the dawn of time:

The Greatest Generation thought that all Baby Boomers were lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their free-love, rock music, psychedelics, and pesky civil rights movements.

Then, the Baby Boomers came along and thought all Gen Xers were lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their punk rock, heavy-metal, cocaine, and pesky civil rights.

Then, the Gen Xers came along and thought that all Millenials were lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their grunge, rap, video games, party pills, opioids, and pesky civil rights.

Next, Millenials will come along and think that all iGen/Gen Yers are lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their electronic music, iDevices, screen time, social media, psych meds, and yet even more pesky civil rights.

And so on, and so on, and so on ...

And when it comes to mass-murder and suicide, religious conservatives have both of those categories all but locked up and monopolized.

All violence, including suicides, across the world has been in steady decline, especially once lead was taken out the water supply in most major metropolitan areas.

Quote from: Kael;1080617Politics and and social movements are cyclical with a trend towards progressiveness since the dawn of time:

The Greatest Generation thought that all Baby Boomers were lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their free-love, psychedelics, and pesky civil rights movements.

Then, the Baby Boomers came along and thought all Gen Xers were lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their punk rock, heavy-metal, cocaine, and pesky civil rights.

Then, the Gen Xers came along and thought that all Millenials were lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their grunge, rap, video games, party pills, opioids, and pesky civil rights.

Next, Millenials will come along and think that all iGen/Gen Yers are lazy, narcissistic, attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled, whiny, overly-progressive piss-babies with their electronic music, iDevices, screen time, social media, psych meds, and yet even more pesky civil rights.

And so on, and so on, and so on ...

And when it comes to mass-murder and suicide, religious conservatives have both of those categories all but locked up and monopolized.

All violence, including suicides, across the world has been in steady decline, especially once lead was taken out the water supply in most major metropolitan areas.

Why does this site not have some kind of XP or like button so that I dont have to type up my approval of the above post like some kind of attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled caveman.

Quote from: Shasarak;1080624Why does this site not have some kind of XP or like button so that I dont have to type up my approval of the above post like some kind of attention-seeking, over-medicated, drug-addled caveman.

Because approval should neither be expected nor sought on this site.

Quote from: Motorskills;1079582Something that has raised 7 million dollars is going to raise eyebrows outside the hobby, and will (eventually) have a direct impact on the hobby itself.

It will have a direct impact on the people involved in Critical Role, an indirect impact on WotC, and almost no impact on the surrounding industry, which will continue to bitch about not being as successful and blaming it on bigotry.

Quote from: RPGPundit;1079608They don't have children themselves, they indoctrinate other people's children in the schools.

That first part isn't true.

Quote from: Shasarak;1080593It probably will not be long before the Social Media algorithms can start to detect suicidal thoughts.  It will be interesting to see what they do with that information, sell more advertisements?  Damn Zucked again.

#Facebook already has algorithms which do that.

Quote from: Kael;1080617All violence, including suicides, across the world has been in steady decline,

On the contrary, suicide rates are on the increase, especially among white males.