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why do companies insist on fucking up perfectly good systems?

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Orphan81:
I've heard nothing but bad things about the changes made for 7th edition....

And none of them have anything to do with Wokeness or not. Just sounds like they tinkered too much with the system and it ended up in a state nobody liked... Kind of like the newest edition of Shadowrun.

Lots of people are advising using Delta Green's system instead.

mightybrain:
You know you're in trouble when there's a box for pronouns on your character sheet.

hedgehobbit:

--- Quote from: Ghostmaker on June 23, 2022, 01:38:35 PM ---If I'm not mistaken, CoC 7E gives you a big chunk of luck points to spend on critical rolls to avoid disaster. However, those luck points are hard to regain.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that rule from Pulp Cthulhu? I seem to remember it there (where it at least made sense).

But to answer the OP's question, when a company hires someone to write a new version of the rules, they aren't going to hire someone that thinks the current version of the rules works fine. Hence they will find people that want to "improve" the game whether you like it or not. Also, when people are satisfied with a game's rules, they tend to avoid forums so those forums become filled with people complaining about certain aspects of the rules, which gives companies a false sense of how well the current rules work.

I saw the same thing with Hero System. They addressed the needs of the hardcore players but completely ignored all the people that had abandoned the game because of core issues that the new version never addressed. I call it the "Fan Survivor Bias".

Stephen Tannhauser:

--- Quote from: hedgehobbit on June 23, 2022, 02:14:59 PM ---I saw the same thing with Hero System. They addressed the needs of the hardcore players but completely ignored all the people that had abandoned the game because of core issues that the new version never addressed. I call it the "Fan Survivor Bias".

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What were some of these unaddressed core issues with HERO, out of curiosity?

rytrasmi:

--- Quote from: mightybrain on June 23, 2022, 02:07:57 PM ---You know you're in trouble when there's a box for pronouns on your character sheet.

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I though you were joking, so I looked. Holy shit what a bunch of shitheads.

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