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When Mordy's Monsters of the Multiverse, is soon released by WOTC;

Started by Jam The MF, January 11, 2022, 05:56:50 AM

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Jam The MF

January 11, 2022, 05:56:50 AM
It will compile previously released content from Volo's Guide and Tome of Foes, and essentially replace them for D&D 5E.  It's a rewrite and re-release of mostly the same content people already own; but more woke this time around.  It's going to be billed as the "best" companion to the 5E Monster Manual.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Ghostmaker

#1
January 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Will they nerf Mordenkainen like they did in Ravenloft 5E?

Jam The MF

#2
January 11, 2022, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Will they nerf Mordenkainen like they did in Ravenloft 5E?

I don't know, but I believe this coming book will bookend the changes we saw in Tasha's.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Gog to Magog

#3
January 11, 2022, 09:30:25 PM
There's already leaks for it that include basically removing mechanical penalties of any kind (including speed for short races) and, of course, the "everyone gets any ability bonus they want because fuck fantasy races being fantastical or having evolved to be different things"
He said only: "Men shall die for this". He meant the words.

Jam The MF

#4
January 12, 2022, 04:22:15 AM
We aren't going to have to wait for the next version or edition of D&D, to see them undo the traditional lore and uniqueness of D&D and its components.  That is already happening before our eyes.  Tasha's showed their intent.  It's been a while since then, and now they have picked up the pace.
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Ghostmaker

#5
January 12, 2022, 08:11:19 AM
Quote from: Jam The MF on January 12, 2022, 04:22:15 AM
We aren't going to have to wait for the next version or edition of D&D, to see them undo the traditional lore and uniqueness of D&D and its components.  That is already happening before our eyes.  Tasha's showed their intent.  It's been a while since then, and now they have picked up the pace.
That's okay. My wallet will remain closed.

THE_Leopold

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January 12, 2022, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Will they nerf Mordenkainen like they did in Ravenloft 5E?

Mordenkainen will become non-binary and have a trans partner with blue hair and you best respect xe/xer pronouns or get Canceled out of existence by a strongly worded tweet.
NKL4Lyfe

Slambo

#7
January 12, 2022, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on January 12, 2022, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Will they nerf Mordenkainen like they did in Ravenloft 5E?

Mordenkainen will become non-binary and have a trans partner with blue hair and you best respect xe/xer pronouns or get Canceled out of existence by a strongly worded tweet.
Isnt that just Eliminster

THE_Leopold

#8
January 12, 2022, 09:59:15 AM
Quote from: Slambo on January 12, 2022, 09:58:12 AM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on January 12, 2022, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Will they nerf Mordenkainen like they did in Ravenloft 5E?

Mordenkainen will become non-binary and have a trans partner with blue hair and you best respect xe/xer pronouns or get Canceled out of existence by a strongly worded tweet.
Isnt that just Eliminster

It may have started at Elminster but they won't stop there.
NKL4Lyfe

Ghostmaker

#9
January 12, 2022, 11:44:59 AM
Garbage. Elminster spent some time polymorphed into a female (to teach him humility) but he's always been male (and a bit of a horndog, lol).

He's always been secure in who he is, so disguising himself -- as male OR female -- never bothers him. He even jokes about it in one of Volo's books (something about 'how do women wear these tight bodices anyways?').

In any case, I was grumbling less about Mordy being slapped with whatever rainbow flavor of the week makes the NPCs happy, and more about how he got pwned in Ravenloft by Strahd -- which I find entirely unbelievable. Sorry, no.

Omega

#10
January 12, 2022, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on January 12, 2022, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 11, 2022, 09:02:30 AM
Will they nerf Mordenkainen like they did in Ravenloft 5E?

Mordenkainen will become non-binary and have a trans partner with blue hair and you best respect xe/xer pronouns or get Canceled out of existence by a strongly worded tweet.

So a retelling of that weird Rary module from TSR? LEast I think it was Rary who ended up stuck in a womans body and brainwashed into being evil by a demon or somesuch.

Slambo

#11
January 12, 2022, 12:24:27 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2022, 11:44:59 AM
Garbage. Elminster spent some time polymorphed into a female (to teach him humility) but he's always been male (and a bit of a horndog, lol).

He's always been secure in who he is, so disguising himself -- as male OR female -- never bothers him. He even jokes about it in one of Volo's books (something about 'how do women wear these tight bodices anyways?').

In any case, I was grumbling less about Mordy being slapped with whatever rainbow flavor of the week makes the NPCs happy, and more about how he got pwned in Ravenloft by Strahd -- which I find entirely unbelievable. Sorry, no.

Oh, thenikely yes, they already have the forward and it basically talks about Mordenkainen not wanting to write a forward for a game book and having Tasha sub in instewd....i think someone at WOTC has a crush in her since she's basically in every book now and her being about as evil as it gets is glossed over.

Armchair Gamer

#12
January 12, 2022, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2022, 11:44:59 AM
In any case, I was grumbling less about Mordy being slapped with whatever rainbow flavor of the week makes the NPCs happy, and more about how he got pwned in Ravenloft by Strahd -- which I find entirely unbelievable. Sorry, no.

  As an old-school Ravenloft fan, I found it annoying because dropping Mordenkainen into Ravenloft was one of several changes that made CoS feel more like a nostalgia trip for Hickman's time at TSR than for the actual setting. :)

Ghostmaker

#13
January 12, 2022, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: Slambo on January 12, 2022, 12:24:27 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2022, 11:44:59 AM
Garbage. Elminster spent some time polymorphed into a female (to teach him humility) but he's always been male (and a bit of a horndog, lol).

He's always been secure in who he is, so disguising himself -- as male OR female -- never bothers him. He even jokes about it in one of Volo's books (something about 'how do women wear these tight bodices anyways?').

In any case, I was grumbling less about Mordy being slapped with whatever rainbow flavor of the week makes the NPCs happy, and more about how he got pwned in Ravenloft by Strahd -- which I find entirely unbelievable. Sorry, no.

Oh, thenikely yes, they already have the forward and it basically talks about Mordenkainen not wanting to write a forward for a game book and having Tasha sub in instewd....i think someone at WOTC has a crush in her since she's basically in every book now and her being about as evil as it gets is glossed over.
Yeah. She's the mother of Iuz, the Oerth god of tyranny for crying out loud. Iggwilv is not a nice person.

So bizarre.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on January 12, 2022, 01:54:29 PM
  As an old-school Ravenloft fan, I found it annoying because dropping Mordenkainen into Ravenloft felt like one of a number of changes that made CoS feel more like nostalgia for Hickman's time at TSR than for the actual setting. :)
It does seem silly. Why not write up a new NPC to fill the role, rather than make Mordenkainen the jobber?

THE_Leopold

#14
January 12, 2022, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: Ghostmaker on January 12, 2022, 01:55:53 PM

It does seem silly. Why not write up a new NPC to fill the role, rather than make Mordenkainen the jobber?

That requires effort and talent, it's easier to warp an existing character to their purposes.  See Comic book industry.
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