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Author Topic: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?  (Read 6930 times)

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2021, 06:18:11 AM »
In the James Bond scenario 'Goldfinger II', Auric who somehow survived falling out of an airplane, is now using an armed & mobile steel lung.  I wasn't sure how to handle that encounter but the Davros reference gave me some ideas.   Thanks!

Also, just a mechanical claw? Needs more Lasers!!
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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2021, 06:21:05 AM »
I wasn't sure how to handle that encounter but the Davros reference gave me some ideas.   Thanks!

No worries... Him or the Mekon make the concept viable for me. ;)
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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2021, 06:30:55 AM »
My one main rule when allowing for stuff like prosthetics is that it does not normally grant any bonuses. It just alleviates the malady in a viable or semi-viable manner. Or if it does have an advantage, then there should be some drawbacks too. A mechanical hand with a built in crossbow works long as theres some penalty to say crafting/thieving checks because theres no tactile feedback.

The original Cyborg novel that became the Six Million Dollar Man pilot had some good insights into this. His prosthetic legs could run full tilt without him getting tired. His replacement arm could bludgeon well as it felt no pain. In the book he actually could not see with the eye. It had a camera and later If I recall right a one-shot laser. One of his fingers was loaded with a dart gun and so on.

Theres so many many many ways to go at this that are perfectly fine.

But time and again these SJW nuts go the stupidest route possible.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2021, 07:33:35 PM »
Man, if I was stuck in a wheelchair the last freaking thing I would play would be someone in a wheelchair. The whole idea behind RPGS is to be something more than you are, how many people can use magic or fly as some weird race with wings?

If you ever worked with people in wheelchairs you know the idea of going on an adventure in one is crazy. Why do you think the law here made places handicap accessable? No way.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2021, 07:54:08 PM »
Man, if I was stuck in a wheelchair the last freaking thing I would play would be someone in a wheelchair. The whole idea behind RPGS is to be something more than you are, how many people can use magic or fly as some weird race with wings?

If you ever worked with people in wheelchairs you know the idea of going on an adventure in one is crazy. Why do you think the law here made places handicap accessable? No way.

These people shove diversity down our throats because it makes them feel good. Not because it helps anyone.
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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2021, 02:14:06 AM »
Man, if I was stuck in a wheelchair the last freaking thing I would play would be someone in a wheelchair. The whole idea behind RPGS is to be something more than you are, how many people can use magic or fly as some weird race with wings?

If you ever worked with people in wheelchairs you know the idea of going on an adventure in one is crazy. Why do you think the law here made places handicap accessable? No way.

These people shove diversity down our throats because it makes them feel good. Not because it helps anyone.

Very. What they want is for us to stay handicapped so they can
A: Rile us up and use us every iteration of this mental disease. And failing that. Cause trouble on our behalf because we arent outraged at how oppresededed we is. We are just pets, animals that they only care about when we are doing the tricks they taught us.
B: make themselves out to be the hero. At our expense.

In the now 3 iterations I've had to live though not once have these Social Justice cultists ever actually helped anyone or made a positive change.
Because that is not the goal. But they sure do love to take credit for any changes. And then turn around and tell us again we are being oppresedededed-ad-nausium because you see all that help from real people was not "true" help and they are here to "save" us.

And in a few years they will do it all over again because the next waves on the horizon.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2021, 03:55:58 AM »
Man, if I was stuck in a wheelchair the last freaking thing I would play would be someone in a wheelchair. The whole idea behind RPGS is to be something more than you are, how many people can use magic or fly as some weird race with wings?

Isn't that the topic from the original post? This:



seems like using magic or flying with wings.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2021, 08:07:38 AM »
Man, if I was stuck in a wheelchair the last freaking thing I would play would be someone in a wheelchair. The whole idea behind RPGS is to be something more than you are, how many people can use magic or fly as some weird race with wings?

If you ever worked with people in wheelchairs you know the idea of going on an adventure in one is crazy. Why do you think the law here made places handicap accessable? No way.
Because it is a fetish. It's not about disabled people. It's not about accessibility. It's about fetishizing the status of being confined to a wheelchair.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2021, 08:44:10 AM »
Combat wheelchairs always make me think of Grove Marcus from the Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust anime. That character is basically completely shattered physically, and must be carted around by other characters, but when things are dire can project himself into a spiritual form that is incredibly powerful.

Occasionally this type of thing is a cool character concept... but these have existed long before & will exist long after the SJW religion burns itself out.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2021, 03:35:36 PM »
Wild Wild West had a spider-like wheelchair. That definitely wasn't that film's biggest problem.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2021, 03:36:32 PM »
Wild Wild West had a spider-like wheelchair. That definitely wasn't that film's biggest problem.

It remains the only movie during which I actually slept in the theater.
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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2021, 11:26:25 AM »
As noted many a time. Theres so many ways to do this in interesting ways. Like the "walker" chair in the OP.
But these SJW morons can not even come up with anything better than "plain wheelchair" or "super over powered flying indestructible gatling chainsaw plain wheelchair"...

Because the first just can not work without alot of hassles for the PCs or limiting your campaign to cities (and other places where it makes alot more sense). The second is the standard substandard over reaction to being told why the first can not work without alot of hoop jumping.

Most of us here can think of one or two adventures where a normal wheelchair bound adventurer is viable. Why the hell does it nigh invariably elude these idiots?

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2021, 11:33:55 AM »
As noted many a time. Theres so many ways to do this in interesting ways. Like the "walker" chair in the OP.
But these SJW morons can not even come up with anything better than "plain wheelchair" or "super over powered flying indestructible gatling chainsaw plain wheelchair"...

Because the first just can not work without alot of hassles for the PCs or limiting your campaign to cities (and other places where it makes alot more sense). The second is the standard substandard over reaction to being told why the first can not work without alot of hoop jumping.

Most of us here can think of one or two adventures where a normal wheelchair bound adventurer is viable. Why the hell does it nigh invariably elude these idiots?

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2021, 02:04:19 PM »
Griswald voluntered in a VA hospital when his dad was there after a stroke. He told me how some of those guys couldn't even get up a low slope and how they'd thank anyone who took a minute to help them.

Inclusion yeah right- if I was in a wheelchair I'd want the dm to let me play an elf Flash or a real young dragon who could FLY.

I love the way SJWs use crippled people. Damn lowlifes. Bet none of them ever did anything for people like that.

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Re: When is a wheelchair not a wheelchair?
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2021, 03:11:54 PM »
Something to keep in mind is to make sure you differentiate this fetish crap from player accessibility.

There's nothing wrong with the latter. Hell, I've done that with a friend of mine who has poor eyesight. We printed extra-large font copies of his character sheets, and got him some large dice to roll and he was good to go. Another friend is in a wheelchair; we just cleared a space at the table and made sure she could roll up to it without problems.