Retrocloning WFRP

crkrueger · April 04, 2010, 08:01:13 PM

Quote from: J Arcane;371778I would just like to see how fast you'd get sued if someone stopped just talking about this and expecting someone else to do it, and actually did it.

I've been thinking about this for a while, only reason I haven't started it in earnest is, I'm starting to get into MRQII and wondering if it wouldn't be just as good of a system to run the Old World in, especially with Necromancy and Deus Vult books being released this month.

Quote from: J Arcane;371778If you want an WFRP-alike in print, come up with your own bloody idea, and just make a game with a similar system, percentile stats, career/lifepath, etc. Pushing for anything closer to the original, even openly compatible with it, is inviting danger.

Well, no one, to my knowledge, has retrocloned a setting, just a system. The idea would be to give WFRPers who want to play the abandoned versions and publish new material a way to do that.

Of course, you're right, GW is litigious as all hell, so if you did want to do anything more then a system-clone, you'd better be damn sure you did it right.

crkrueger · April 04, 2010, 08:04:12 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;371706Retrocloning WFRP would be RIDICULOUSLY easy to do, because the WFRP setting is nothing more than a retro-clone of our own real world in Europe, during the era of the wars of religion of the 16th-17th centuries.

RPGPundit

Hey Pundit(or any other historian), what would be a good place to start researching that era. Best authors, best overviews, best maps, etc.? Getting input from someone in the field is always more productive then just googling.

Silverlion · April 04, 2010, 08:28:00 PM

Quote from: Ronin;371735OK I've never played WFRP or the mini game. But this this description sounds fucking awesome. Seriously I would buy this. Especially if you upped the percentage of Arrowsmith. (I have the TPB of it kicking around here somewhere and I love it.)

Hrms. I might have to use BRP...is BRP open?

ggroy · April 04, 2010, 09:03:10 PM

Quote from: J Arcane;371778Plus, who the hell really wants to go BACK to AD&D and beyond anyway but the most obsessive of old fatbeards?

I hate to say this, but unfortunately J Arcane may possibly be right in this assertion.

Over the last half-decade or so, the only people locally I've been able to find who were still interested in playing regular 1E AD&D games, turn out to be "fatbeard" types. (This seems to be the case, in the many towns I've lived in over the years).

ggroy · April 04, 2010, 09:05:37 PM

Quote from: Silverlion;371793Hrms. I might have to use BRP...is BRP open?

Last I heard BRP wasn't open. But if somebody wants to create their own BRP clone, there's always Mongoose Runequest 1 which has released its own SRD.

http://mrqwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

arminius · April 05, 2010, 05:48:47 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;371786Hey Pundit(or any other historian), what would be a good place to start researching that era. Best authors, best overviews, best maps, etc.? Getting input from someone in the field is always more productive then just googling.

From a gamer point of view you might look up the old AD&D 2e supplement, A Mighty Fortress.

Back when I took a European history survey, the book we used for the period was Dunn, The age of religious wars, 1559-1715. A newer book is Konnert, Early Modern Europe: The Age of Religious War, 1559-1715.

I never studied the period in greater detail but I think you probably couldn't avoid Braudel, Civilization and Capitalism, 15th–18th Centuries (3 vols.), especially volume 1.

RPGPundit · April 06, 2010, 11:25:44 AM

Yeah, those would do.

RPGPundit

bottg · April 06, 2010, 04:15:19 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;371786Hey Pundit(or any other historian), what would be a good place to start researching that era. Best authors, best overviews, best maps, etc.? Getting input from someone in the field is always more productive then just googling.

I have got a fair few books (for my Maelstrom research), although they tend to be England-focused. I really should put together a list

RPGPundit · April 07, 2010, 10:24:29 AM

Quote from: bottg;372002I have got a fair few books (for my Maelstrom research), although they tend to be England-focused. I really should put together a list

I'd find it interesting to know which sources you used.

RPGPundit