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Bagpuss

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« on: March 23, 2006, 06:49:40 AM »
I'm playing a warlock for the first time, since invocation selection is so limited. I was looking for advice on different character builds and if folks had found the class, balanced or broken, or what.

I know some of the others in the group are already jealous of the at will ranged touch attack doing 3d6 at 5th level (next one). I figure it's only one target, at 6th fighters get two attacks, at 5th Wizards are dropping fireballs, etc. Okay so it isn't limited in uses but it is limited in use.

So far I have

Sickening Blast (but I've only managed to Sicken the party's dwarven cleric, shooting past her into melee)
Beguiling Influence (and a maxed Bluff, I can pretty much convince anyone of anything)
See the Unseen (Darkvision and See Invisible are pretty handy)

Feats
Point Blank Shot
Weapon Focus (Ray)
Precise Shot

I plan on getting Ability Focus at 6th.

With the DC of Sickening Blast becoming easier for monsters to get as we go up in level I'm thinking of exchanging that for Eldrich Spear, when I get a new Eldrich Essense.

What would be your first Lesser Inovaction and why?
 

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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2006, 10:43:55 AM »
We've got a warlock in my game.  The fucker's just annoying (in a good way) to DM for.  I believe his first lesser was the invisibility, but it might have been flight -- I don't have his sheet with me.
 
The trickiest thing about warlocks is figuring out what the eldritch blast effects and what it doesn't.  I believe what I finally ruled (again, don't have the paper in front of me) is that it is subject to DR as a +1 magic weapon of indeterminate type (i.e. not blunt, piercing, or slashing).  It is also subject to SR, which the warlock from becoming a "Wanker of Golem Slaying".
 

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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2006, 12:26:31 PM »
Get your ass in the air, mang.  It rocks.

I'd also get Maximize SLA at 6th level.  It only works three times per day, but a flat 36 points of damage is NICE.
 

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2006, 01:03:05 PM »
I believe there is an Acid Blast that means you can ignore spell resistance however. Need to be high level for it.

I was thinking Flight or Invisibility for my first Lesser Invocation.
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2006, 10:22:17 AM »
A dead one.



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A dead one with lots 'o loot.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2006, 10:08:42 AM »
One that's chaotic.




That's the only good alignment that's allowed to them.
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2006, 04:33:21 PM »
My warlock is Lawful Evil, actually seems to fit well with the party at the moment. The "coup de grace" he used on the two of the colour sprayed enemies didn't raise an eyebrow from the other members in the party, and in fact the Chaotic Good dwarf cleric copied my lead to finish of the final one.

I don't particularly like playing Chaotic characters as they tend to put there own opinions and values above that of the party. I have trouble playing them as my mindset is generally lawful, so much so that most of the players thought my CG cleric in another campaign was lawful. Hence I ask the GM if I could be LE and he was thankfully okay with that.

I did suggest we kill a plague ridden prisoner we discovered as we had no means to treat him, and we were in the middle of an enemy fortress, he was half starved and to get him to a cleric with remove disease we would need to transport him by our ship risking everyone on board. I suggest we kill him and burn his corpse to stop any risk of the plague spreading, and infecting the whole community (a very lawful act in my opinion). The dwarf argued against it, saying once we had cleared the fortress we could return to him, and get him some help, but didn't think to throw him any food or water.
 

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2006, 06:11:36 PM »
Quote from: Cyberzombie
I'd also get Maximize SLA at 6th level.  It only works three times per day, but a flat 36 points of damage is NICE.


Reading the discription you can't use that on your Eldrich Blast so what use is it?

It can only be used on SLA that have a level equal to your (caster level/2)-2 or less, and Eldrich Blast has a effective level of caster level/2, hence it is always going to be higher than the one permitted for Maximize SLA.

Tell a lie you can use it when you are 20th level as it's effective level is capped at 9th.
 

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2006, 08:39:11 PM »
Eldritch Blast has been errataed to have a base spell level of 1, modified by the invocations that change it (blast essences and blast shapes, IIRC).
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2006, 11:29:09 AM »
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Eldritch Blast has been errataed to have a base spell level of 1, modified by the invocations that change it (blast essences and blast shapes, IIRC).


So in essence, you can use QSLA and ESLA on EB, but these must not have other shapes or essences applied to them?
 

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2006, 04:53:43 PM »
Unless you're high enough level to use the feats on the augmented blast, right. For example, a 10th level warlock could Empower a Brimstone Blast-augmented blast (3rd level).
 

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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2006, 03:38:37 PM »
Quote from: Dacke
Eldritch Blast has been errataed to have a base spell level of 1, modified by the invocations that change it (blast essences and blast shapes, IIRC).
I have used the errata so long I forgot that it wasn't listed that way to begin with.  :o  But it's a 1st level effect, as Dacke says.  :)