I can't say how long it will take, but eventually, absolutely everything that SJWs have done to RPGs and every other geek pop culture will be erased.

The white pill people need right now. Stuff like this is why I joined this site.

Hi, by the way. 

I see SJWs not doing so well in countries that arrest them.

Quote from: RPGPundit on October 23, 2021, 06:19:05 AM
I can't say how long it will take, but eventually, absolutely everything that SJWs have done to RPGs and every other geek pop culture will be erased.

C.S. Lewis said one time one must never wish gray to be black, because then it's a short distance to wishing white were black and then we have become devils. So, as pessimistic as I am on this issue, I see your analysis as hope-giving.

Well yeah, they'll get bored in this corner of the world and move back to politics, as they should. There's nothing here for them. Hell, the OSR appeared as a direct counter to what they were doing to D&D. Look at D&D V and compare it to AD&D. It's like looking in the mirror and seeing a completely different person.

Weird.

Let Hasbro placate to the Twitterati, it won't change how we play D&D because we have BECMI & AD&D to work with. What are they going to do --- go back and change older editions? Nope. They did good with 5: it drew OS gamers and new gamers. Can't discard that.

Bounded Accuracy, no racial limits, discarded alignment, Proficiency, CR levels and all the level bonuses. Hasbro made D&D V so attractive few could avoid it. It seems like such fun to new gamers. Plus, it's woke. "Evil" NPCs get questioned from the designer level, rather than at your table. Orcs can't be evil, right? The white man is to blame!!!

YoJust let Hasbro's D&D die by not buying it. You have people here who argue against WoTC/Hasbro BUT STILL BUY D&D V.

[Insert weak apology for buying a broken game].

If you support Hasbro, you're supporting the Twitterati again, and again and again.

If you run or play D&D V, you're supporting Jeremy Crawford, who hates the OSR & declared Greyhawk NON-CANON in order to make it more woke. Will you change your old D&D/AD&D settings to conform with Hasbro's "Fantasy Identity"?

As Tim Kask, D&D's first employee and editor of Dragon magazine, demonstrated --- FUCK HASBRO.

Greetings!

Great video episode, Pundit! Your commentary is a solid refresher on history and mythology, and the transcendent values that are embraced and endure through the passage of time.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: PsyXypher on October 23, 2021, 12:52:48 PM
The white pill people need right now. Stuff like this is why I joined this site.

Hi, by the way. 

Welcome to theRPGsite!

I'm curious how we will see the end of Master Vampires and Drow, Mind Flayers, Lamias, and Rakshasa's no longer have slaves. What is a politically correct fantasy adventure? What is a simulacrum of the past that has been purged of elements of the past (and the present because Libyan slave markets are a thing).

At some point it really is doomed to be a vapid incoherent cosplay constantly revised mad libs with a manipulative pseudo-legal social process to maintain a safe space. At some point that will not be anything youtubers want to watch actors perform.

Problem is. Its not going to happen because it didnt happen the last two times and will not happen either when the next iteration rolls around.

With each iteration theres been some lasting damage done to the gaming community. Some of the early stuff like the Satanic Panic witch hunts now only rare spots here and there or weird laws still enforced overseas. But the damage still persists. The 90s iteration was more invasive and closer to what we are seeing now. Just on a much milder tone overall. But the damage from that persists too in various mostly small ways.

That may not be the case with the current 2010 iteration as the damage is near systemic and shows little sign of abating any time soon. If anything they seem to be stepping up the madness. We are also facing long term infiltration and co-opting plans.

The only cold reassurance I get from all this is the fact that the 2030 iteration will near certainly turn on the current and declare THEM the vile nasty ist-ists. Because thats exactly what the 2010 iteration did to the 1990s iteration and what 90s did to 70s.

Karma.

No it won't, RPGPundit. You have missed the entire point, and have missed it completely.

Because it is too politically incorrect to talk about what is really happening most people just focus on SJWs and the "woke" crowd at Twitter.

This is where most people miss the point: these things are not the disease- they are merely symptoms.

The idea is to destroy western society as a whole, and contaminating pop culture with toxic ideology is one way of doing it. The SJWs are a mindless mass, merely obeying the orders of an elite that hates western society and wants to bring it down. If they were told tomorrow that AD&D is actually good because even in 1977 it had "strong empowered female characters" then suddenly TSR-era gaming would be "cool" the day after. Look at the SJWs as a religious cult and things make more sense.

The point is, it is NOT about making money and it is NOT about misguided leadership- we are dealing with a deliberate plan to bring down EVERYTHING. And that elite is NOT going to stop, ever.

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on October 25, 2021, 08:19:16 PM
If they were told tomorrow that AD&D is actually good because even in 1977 it had "strong empowered female characters" then suddenly TSR-era gaming would be "cool" the day after. Look at the SJWs as a religious cult and things make more sense.

The rest of your post was great, but you're wrong with this part. Eowyn is a strong empowered female character, probably the first in fantasy, but they hate Tolkien. There are too many strong women in Game of Thrones to name, but they hate that too. Anyone remember the name of the strong female character in Rogue One? Nope, because that movie wasn't Wokeshit like the Rey films.

They don't want strong empowered women. They want women (and black people, and trans, etc.) who will STF up and Do What They are Told. When they push back against The Narrative, they are no longer useful.

I was just using that as an example. They hate Tolkein because they were TOLD to hate Tolkein, because of whatever they were told. If they were told to like Tolkein because OF Galadriel and Eowyn, then they would love Tolkein.

They want women to become man-hating consumers, to increase profits- women flooding the workplace decades ago lowered the value of workers (supply and demand) and feminism also made women into consumers rather than practical producers.

Quote from: GriswaldTerrastone on October 25, 2021, 08:19:16 PM
No it won't, RPGPundit. You have missed the entire point, and have missed it completely.

Because it is too politically incorrect to talk about what is really happening most people just focus on SJWs and the "woke" crowd at Twitter.

This is where most people miss the point: these things are not the disease- they are merely symptoms.

The idea is to destroy western society as a whole, and contaminating pop culture with toxic ideology is one way of doing it. The SJWs are a mindless mass, merely obeying the orders of an elite that hates western society and wants to bring it down. If they were told tomorrow that AD&D is actually good because even in 1977 it had "strong empowered female characters" then suddenly TSR-era gaming would be "cool" the day after. Look at the SJWs as a religious cult and things make more sense.

The point is, it is NOT about making money and it is NOT about misguided leadership- we are dealing with a deliberate plan to bring down EVERYTHING. And that elite is NOT going to stop, ever.

But Myths survive even the destruction of civilizations. I am definitely not sure if western civilization will survive; but I feel pretty confident that RPGs will, and they won't be the SJW versions of RPGs.

Quote from: RPGPundit on October 25, 2021, 10:48:28 PM
But Myths survive even the destruction of civilizations. I am definitely not sure if western civilization will survive; but I feel pretty confident that RPGs will, and they won't be the SJW versions of RPGs.

Are RPGs an artifact of the West, though? Does anyone play D&D in China, for instance? Japan does, but Japan is largely Westernized. If the West goes what guarantee is there that it won't douse RPGs with it?

Quote from: Neoplatonist1 on October 25, 2021, 10:50:08 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit on October 25, 2021, 10:48:28 PM
But Myths survive even the destruction of civilizations. I am definitely not sure if western civilization will survive; but I feel pretty confident that RPGs will, and they won't be the SJW versions of RPGs.

Are RPGs an artifact of the West, though? Does anyone play D&D in China, for instance? Japan does, but Japan is largely Westernized. If the West goes what guarantee is there that it won't douse RPGs with it?

Greetings!

People play RPG's--and also D&D--all over the world. Gamers in Mexico, South America, throughout Eastern Europe, like Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, as well as in places like Finland, Ukraine, and Russia. I imagine there are also gamers in Asia, beyond Japan, like South Korea, China, India, the Philippines, Thailand, and other places.

RPG's and D&D will survive, even if the West and the United States wants to choke on shit.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK